Farmers gather and prepare to oust Thai government

[samuidave]

And now farmers get a reality check as price of rice is going lower and lower so the income will decrease. Ignorance is expensive and now farmers will be financially punished. They knew that their produce was not worth the money government offered. Very interesting story. Let's hope they have learned this lesson well.

Blame the victims. How classy and insightful. Crawl back into your cave.

They maybe the victims - but you should also ponder the question as to why they are so!!!

They should have known better than to have trusted the word of a perennial liar!!!

How should they have known better? Was it their grade three education, or the monopoly on the one-sided news they are fed, or perhaps it was because they are just like half the American people who voted for Obama ( another perennial liar) - folks who wanted hope?

Everyone is susceptible to being taken by a sociopathic type of character. Thai farmers are no different.

Or have you never participated in a political election thinking it was for the good, and not ultimately to maintain the hegemonic control of the colonies?

[SICHONSTEVE]

And now farmers get a reality check as price of rice is going lower and lower so the income will decrease. Ignorance is expensive and now farmers will be financially punished. They knew that their produce was not worth the money government offered. Very interesting story. Let's hope they have learned this lesson well.

Blame the victims. How classy and insightful. Crawl back into your cave.

They maybe the victims - but you should also ponder the question as to why they are so!!!

They should have known better than to have trusted the word of a perennial liar!!!

How should they have known better? Was it their grade three education, or the monopoly on the one-sided news they are fed, or perhaps it was because they are just like half the American people who voted for Obama ( another perennial liar) - folks who wanted hope?

Everyone is susceptible to being taken by a sociopathic type of character. Thai farmers are no different.

Or have you never participated in a political election thinking it was for the good, and not ultimately to maintain the hegemonic control of the colonies?

OK, we will give them the benefit of the doubt on this occasion - it is to do with their poor education and gullibility that they were duped this time around, accepted.

Now what would you say if we get a rerun in the next election and the vote for the PTP again despite what has happened.

They do know now, do you accept this fact? Can I call them stupid if they repeat their mistake - I think I can, and I will, make no bones about that, you won't hear the last of it I promise you!!!

I don't know what you mean by this colony thing - they were something that the UK used to have lots of years and years ago isn't it?

[tezzainoz]

Remember about a month ago when thousands of rice farmers had gathered in Ayuthaya to prepare for a march on Bangkok because they had not been paid? Then they all went home because the Government promised to pay the farmers in full the following week?

Does this mean that the government didn't keep their promise?

Don't be silly

There was a mail strike

[tezzainoz]

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Had they been paid an above market price for their rice from a scheme that could wreck the economy, they would be quite happy. They are concerned only for themselves, not the Thai Nation. Don't paint them as heroes.

These people are farmers not economists, bankers or politicians. They were offered a price for their product.

The farmers accepted the offer. It was not the duty of the farmers to calculate what the effect of the offer was going to have.

The farmers have not been paid what was offered despite delivering the goods.

It is right the farmers now demand, in any possible legal manner, that what is owed is paid !

Thanks to The Pool for standing up for the farmers who are the very people that are receiving and will receive the most damage and hardship.

These people make up over 50% of the Thai population. Yes, over 50% of Thailand's population are either farmers and/or deal directly and indirectly with the farming industry.

THEY are THAILAND! To hear some of you Farangs talking like LemonJelly is just pathetic and shows the insensitivity so many of you Farang blowhards have for Thais.

One more thing to all the BlowHard Farangs...why do you keep using the word Democracy?

Why does Yingluck and the Redshirts keep using the word Democracy?

One: This is completely 110% about criminal acts against the Thai people and severe and costly criminal acts.

Two: There never has been a democracy here in the first place....never!

If a Thai person votes the way thier Komnan (Village head) tells them as he was told by the head of their district who was told by their governor....fine!

Thai people have never had a problem with that.

In fact Thais are so used to corruption that as long as all Thais are in for the ride....all is well!

I am not condoning corruption but just telling it like it is.

When the corrupt officials are so greedy and corrupt that they FORGET to feed the mouths that voted for them....you have a big problem in Thailand.

These poor farmers and the entire rice industry has been destroyed by these hired puppets of the megalomaniac in Dubai Thaksin who has plundered this country and plundering is a most serious crime.

No matter what happens in the short term....the farmers and poor people of Thailand are screwed.

They are going to have to be the ones that pay for the corruption and crimes of the Yingluck-Thaksin regime.

These Red Shirt leaders don't give a <deleted> about farmers or even Thailand.

They are all being paid and are being offered incredible amounts of money to bring DADDY back home.

They are greedy, dishonest and will become very violent in order to get their money from DADDY.

I've got news for you Red Shirt guys.

You are never going to get those huge financial bonuses!

And your DADDY is NEVER coming home!

Thanks again to The Pool for sticking up for the underprivileged.

The Boz

Boz,

You're probably almost completely wrong with everything you've said.

But 5 points for trying anyway

Congrats

If I said the world is round

you would argue against me

so at least you are consistant

[tezzainoz]

What are they pissed about,the Government bought all their rice

well above world market prices .......Oh yes they have not been

paid. but they will still vote the same government in again at the

next election,they will never learn.

regards Worgeordie

Especially as, according to the folks in my village, it's all Ahisit's fault.

They won't hear a word against madam Gucci or her brother. Farang no unnerstand.

well I can name 5 that are not

My Thai wife used to be a Thaskin lover and hate the yellow shits

but she and many of her friend where out in the protests against him in 2013-14

so if your wrong with the 5 I know, one includes where I live just out side Udon

why should we believe any thing you say

[GAZZPA]

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Good. Get rid of farm subsidy once and for all.

What a waste of Bangkokian Tax Payer money.

It is obvious that Bangkok people have been paying too much for rice, onion, garlic, palm oil, sugar, etc. It is cheaper to buy Chinese import.

Good idea.

But before the "farm subsidy" is removed in Thailand perhaps the HUGE agricultural subsidies that are paid in the USA and the EU should be removed !

there's a very big difference between the subsidies paid to farmers in the West and the Thai rice buying scheme.

one is a fully funded, sustainable subsidy that is leveling the playing field to support farmers across the industry. The other is an outright attempt at manipulating the market price and it's sole purpose was to make money.

No prizes for guessing which is which.

[HonestQuietBob]

Perhaps it is time for the true Redshirts (not the leaders, who are paid by the man in Dubai, but the followers who want true justice) to join with the farmers and protesters (again not the leaders, who have their own agenda, but the followers who want true democracy and an end to corruption). If these people could get together without their leaders, we might see true reform.

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Instead of applying a label like red - yellow or whatever, wouldn't it be more prudent to refer to them as the Thai people, you see,, believe it or not that's what has been going on in Bangkok the last 4 months.

I'll draw your attention to some facts that might be a clue to what has been going on in Thailand the last while

1. The redshirt leaders have attempted a call to supporters for various rallies recently, they have by in large been a failure due to lack of interest and minimal numbers.

2. The anti-government movement has had protest numbers well into the multiples of millions, although some here label them as "yellows" that label is incorrect

3. The redshirt movement has in fact fallen apart because the Thai people are slowly becoming wise to what they really are and what the leaders represent, some redshirt leaders have openly declared they no longer support the movement the latest of which was Thida, some ex red leaders have been participating in anti government protests and been seen making speeches on stage. What we have left in the movement are a few hundred violent thugs that would be up to no good no matter what label or excuse you give them - every society has these type of people most of which end up in jail at some point.

You really think that people like Ko Tee and Jutaporn will lead people to anything good or have a future in Thailand - I think not

So why are the Democrats boycotting again?

Could it be they know they'll lose (again)?

BTW - multiple millions...... try 200k

[issanaus]

Perhaps it is time for the true Redshirts (not the leaders, who are paid by the man in Dubai, but the followers who want true justice) to join with the farmers and protesters (again not the leaders, who have their own agenda, but the followers who want true democracy and an end to corruption). If these people could get together without their leaders, we might see true reform.

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Just for the record: every day when I go to work in Bangkok I walk through a soi (small alley) that is populated with pro-Shin families. It is very easy to know because they display Yingluck and other PT election posters on the walls, the TV channels they see sometimes, and the fragments of conversations that I catch very often.

But yesterday, as I passed by, I heard a woman saying to the group: [sua dang put na klua] – “The speech of the Red Shirts is scary”.

That means that they are really losing some kind of support or trust from their bases in Bangkok after their threats of violence and separatism. But I don't think that they would go to support the farmers.

At most it means they may have one supporter that is waivering.

Geez, you guys on the Yellow side spend an awful lot of your time grasping at straws.

They have to grasp at straws cause the government you support has stolen all the rice and all the money

[Nip]

Thailand - hub of broken promises

Thailand - hub and bubble toil and trouble

[HonestQuietBob]

If I said the world is round

you would argue against me

so at least you are consistant

Guess what?

You are indeed wrong again.

A consistent attribute of you yellow boys and girls.

Strange but True: Earth Is Not Round

It may seem round when viewed from space, but our planet is actually a bumpy spheroid

Apr 12, 2007 |By Charles Q. Choi

© Kativ/iStockphoto

As countless photos from space can attest, Earth is round—the "Blue Marble," as astronauts have affectionately dubbed it. Appearances, however, can be deceiving. Planet Earth is not, in fact, perfectly round.

[soalbundy]

Had they been paid an above market price for their rice from a scheme that could wreck the economy, they would be quite happy. They are concerned only for themselves, not the Thai Nation. Don't paint them as heroes.

yes i can just see you,little saintly person,worrying about the state of the nation when you have had to exist for years on a farmers income. Suddenly someone comes along and offers you a decent price for your produce,a new life opens up before you,but you would turn it down,too worried about the nation.

[scorecard]

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Perhaps it is time for the true Redshirts (not the leaders, who are paid by the man in Dubai, but the followers who want true justice) to join with the farmers and protesters (again not the leaders, who have their own agenda, but the followers who want true democracy and an end to corruption). If these people could get together without their leaders, we might see true reform.

Sent from my i-mobile IQ X using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Instead of applying a label like red - yellow or whatever, wouldn't it be more prudent to refer to them as the Thai people, you see,, believe it or not that's what has been going on in Bangkok the last 4 months.

I'll draw your attention to some facts that might be a clue to what has been going on in Thailand the last while

1. The redshirt leaders have attempted a call to supporters for various rallies recently, they have by in large been a failure due to lack of interest and minimal numbers.

2. The anti-government movement has had protest numbers well into the multiples of millions, although some here label them as "yellows" that label is incorrect

3. The redshirt movement has in fact fallen apart because the Thai people are slowly becoming wise to what they really are and what the leaders represent, some redshirt leaders have openly declared they no longer support the movement the latest of which was Thida, some ex red leaders have been participating in anti government protests and been seen making speeches on stage. What we have left in the movement are a few hundred violent thugs that would be up to no good no matter what label or excuse you give them - every society has these type of people most of which end up in jail at some point.

You really think that people like Ko Tee and Jutaporn will lead people to anything good or have a future in Thailand - I think not

Continuing a little, have jatuporn or nutawoot (in their new & democratically voted positions) made any comments about the numerous reds (100+ Thai people if my memory is correct) who have been languishing in jail for some 2 years and totally ignored by madam and pt and also the red leaders?

Have jatuporn and nutawoot (in their new & democratically voted positions) made any comments about the lack of payment / the numerous unfulfilled promises to pay the farmers, and the farmer suicides, and the lack of any structured or compassionate comment on this subject by the fake puppet on this subject, and/or the lack of any ongoing comment on payments from kittirat? Further, have any of these rogues make any comment about some form of short-term support for the farmers whilst they are not paid?

Have jatuporn and nutawoot (in their new & democratically voted positions) made any comments about the obvious corruption associated with the rice scam (and more)?

Their total silence speaks volumes.

[searcherkind666]

In my humble observation it look's like the elite class is once again fooling the poor farmer's and citizens of Thailand and trying to install and unelected board of directer's to rule Thailand just like communist china and that to is a farce , central banker's are behind most of the world's conflict's , its the one world order , Zionist banker's rule the day and profit from all war's and small conflict's and government coup's I would urge the thai people to study the history of coup's in south America . democratically elected government's are elected by the majority of the people and the minority should never be allowed to manipulate or overthrow a government with or with out outside help . wake up Thailand before its to late .

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In my humble observation it look's like the elite class is once again fooling the poor farmer's and citizens of Thailand and trying to install and unelected board of directer's to rule Thailand just like communist china and that to is a farce , central banker's are behind most of the world's conflict's , its the one world order , Zionist banker's rule the day and profit from all war's and small conflict's and government coup's I would urge the thai people to study the history of coup's in south America . democratically elected government's are elected by the majority of the people and the minority should never be allowed to manipulate or overthrow a government with or with out outside help . wake up Thailand before its to late .

?

[Gil]

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2012/01/25/commentary/conversations-with-thaksin-thailands-prime-suspect/#.UypoJNkwzRQ

This is what Thaksin said 3 years ago:

“Maybe, because I still have fond memories of living in a rural area, and I remember that when I went to school, I rode on the back of the motorcycle of my father and watched the rice fields along the way — I can still remember that scene. So I have a very fond memory, and maybe that’s one reason I do feel sympathy for the rural people when they are so poor and they have so little chances. How can we give them opportunities, give them some hopes? That is my passion.”

Today we know better. What Thaksin was really saying is: "Give me 900,000,000,000 THB and I will give 18% to the poor farmers and the rest is for the storage, trading, and handling companies. And just by pure coincidence, I control most of them".

"I have a very fond memory, and maybe that’s one reason I do feel sympathy for the rural people when they are so poor and they have so little chances."

Seduce, Lie, Plunder !

[nong38]

Still not been paid yet then? What a surprise, but thanks for voting for us.

LOL TS

[northernjohn]

Just out of curiosity does any one know if the government has said any thing about paying all the interest on the loans they had to take out due to the governments inability to deliver on their promise?

Loan Sharks don't come cheap.

[BudRight]

Why does the government not simply lie to them again? It's been a winning strategy.

[Crushdepth]

100 pick-ups and 6 trucks.

Looks like the numbers at Lumpini are about to triple.

Only an idiot would discount the ire of the unpaid farmers. There's well over a million of them. Do you require all of them to turn up in person before you realise there's a problem?

Edited March 20, 2014 by Crushdepth

[HonestQuietBob]

100 pick-ups and 6 trucks.

Looks like the numbers at Lumpini are about to triple.

Only an idiot would discount the ire of the unpaid farmers. There's well over a million of them.

And the overwhelming majority of them are Red to the core.

No matter how bad you think Thaksin and his hot little sis are, the farmers know the other side are a hell of a lot worse.

They're smarter than you guys give them credit for and that's why the Democrats are boycotting again.

[The Deerhunter]

...and the Govt has lifted the state of emergency (or whatever it was).....TAT have started promoting tourism again with their "tell the foreign diplomats to tell their folk back home that all is (now) well in the the Land of S(insert??).........right in the face of another possible protest from the farmers and their Bangkok based supporters ...and we all know how they pan out

Amazing Thailand....one hand wouldn't have a clue what the other is doing

Land of scams. Hub of Corruption.

[Jean Pierre Jacquot]

Yes, please come in and free us of these bunch of gangsters! The majority of Thai people want the out but they are so power hungry to totally disregard people's will. Shame on them!

[Crushdepth]

100 pick-ups and 6 trucks.

Looks like the numbers at Lumpini are about to triple.

Only an idiot would discount the ire of the unpaid farmers. There's well over a million of them.

And the overwhelming majority of them are Red to the core.

No matter how bad you think Thaksin and his hot little sis are, the farmers know the other side are a hell of a lot worse.

They're smarter than you guys give them credit for and that's why the Democrats are boycotting again.

They're a lot less ignorant than you, I'll warrant. Overwhelming majority, red to the core eh?

[The Deerhunter]

Those pesky fake farmers at it again ?

Of course.

Some more 'agenda laundering" by the PAD-Dem's, trying to project their agenda via groups that pretend to be unrelated.

Very careful not to show the linkages to, and instigation from the PAD-Dems, coup-mongers and all their anti-democratic friends.

I see they have all been issued affinity coloured T-shirts,

Anyway, we have seen it all before, in one form or another. One of the primary ones being elements of the Medical establishment.

Shame on you man! As if the farmers don't have enough reasons to feel sick and tired of this corrupt PT bunch. They are suffering and dying and you still keep preaching they only protest because of the Dems.

He just can't accept that PTP are not the virtuous bastions of truth, democracy and heroes of the people he'd like them to be.

Like waking up and finding out the the GDR wasn't the utopia they said it was and people couldn't wait to join the West.

He really thinks Thaksin is a savior and all this talk of crimes, convictions, court cases and dictatorship is just unfair comments.

In other words he is stupid. Say it. we all think it.

[The Deerhunter]

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Had they been paid an above market price for their rice from a scheme that could wreck the economy, they would be quite happy. They are concerned only for themselves, not the Thai Nation. Don't paint them as heroes.

These people are farmers not economists, bankers or politicians. They were offered a price for their product.

The farmers accepted the offer. It was not the duty of the farmers to calculate what the effect of the offer was going to have.

The farmers have not been paid what was offered despite delivering the goods.

It is right the farmers now demand, in any possible legal manner, that what is owed is paid !

Thanks to The Pool for standing up for the farmers who are the very people that are receiving and will receive the most damage and hardship.

These people make up over 50% of the Thai population. Yes, over 50% of Thailand's population are either farmers and/or deal directly and indirectly with the farming industry.

THEY are THAILAND! To hear some of you Farangs talking like LemonJelly is just pathetic and shows the insensitivity so many of you Farang blowhards have for Thais.

One more thing to all the BlowHard Farangs...why do you keep using the word Democracy?

Why does Yingluck and the Redshirts keep using the word Democracy?

One: This is completely 110% about criminal acts against the Thai people and severe and costly criminal acts.

Two: There never has been a democracy here in the first place....never!

If a Thai person votes the way thier Komnan (Village head) tells them as he was told by the head of their district who was told by their governor....fine!

Thai people have never had a problem with that.

In fact Thais are so used to corruption that as long as all Thais are in for the ride....all is well!

I am not condoning corruption but just telling it like it is.

When the corrupt officials are so greedy and corrupt that they FORGET to feed the mouths that voted for them....you have a big problem in Thailand.

These poor farmers and the entire rice industry has been destroyed by these hired puppets of the megalomaniac in Dubai Thaksin who has plundered this country and plundering is a most serious crime.

No matter what happens in the short term....the farmers and poor people of Thailand are screwed.

They are going to have to be the ones that pay for the corruption and crimes of the Yingluck-Thaksin regime.

These Red Shirt leaders don't give a <deleted> about farmers or even Thailand.

They are all being paid and are being offered incredible amounts of money to bring DADDY back home.

They are greedy, dishonest and will become very violent in order to get their money from DADDY.

I've got news for you Red Shirt guys.

You are never going to get those huge financial bonuses!

And your DADDY is NEVER coming home!

Thanks again to The Pool for sticking up for the underprivileged.

The Boz

Boz,

You're probably almost completely wrong with everything you've said.

But 5 points for trying anyway

Congrats

How can you say that with a straight face? He rambled on a bit but we all do sometimes (even you) but he was right on the money with most of it. Stop viewing the world through rose red coloured spectacles and it will give you a shock. Yes, they have been lying to you, too.

[The Deerhunter]

If I said the world is round

you would argue against me

so at least you are consistant

Guess what?

You are indeed wrong again.

A consistent attribute of you yellow boys and girls.

Strange but True: Earth Is Not Round

It may seem round when viewed from space, but our planet is actually a bumpy spheroid

Apr 12, 2007 |By Charles Q. Choi

© Kativ/iStockphoto

As countless photos from space can attest, Earth is round—the "Blue Marble," as astronauts have affectionately dubbed it. Appearances, however, can be deceiving. Planet Earth is not, in fact, perfectly round.

Astronomical observations aside (and you have made some astronomically far out observations) You are not honest (with yourself), not quiet. and may or may not even be a Bob/Robert etc.

[bigbamboo]

100 pick-ups and 6 trucks.

Looks like the numbers at Lumpini are about to triple.

Only an idiot would discount the ire of the unpaid farmers. There's well over a million of them.

And the overwhelming majority of them are Red to the core.

No matter how bad you think Thaksin and his hot little sis are, the farmers know the other side are a hell of a lot worse.

They're smarter than you guys give them credit for and that's why the Democrats are boycotting again.

'Hot little sis."....?

I bet you call Vorayudh the Red Bull 'kid' too.

[The Deerhunter]

In my humble observation it look's like the elite class is once again fooling the poor farmer's and citizens of Thailand and trying to install and unelected board of directer's to rule Thailand just like communist china and that to is a farce , central banker's are behind most of the world's conflict's , its the one world order , Zionist banker's rule the day and profit from all war's and small conflict's and government coup's I would urge the thai people to study the history of coup's in south America . democratically elected government's are elected by the majority of the people and the minority should never be allowed to manipulate or overthrow a government with or with out outside help . wake up Thailand before its to late .

Zionists? I blame the illuminati, or Catholics (theres a lot of them in Chiangmai). How about the Rosacrucians or the Masons? Now the CIA, that's different! They have had more affect on South Americal politics than any Zionist bankers ever have had..

[The Deerhunter]

100 pick-ups and 6 trucks.

Looks like the numbers at Lumpini are about to triple.

Only an idiot would discount the ire of the unpaid farmers. There's well over a million of them.

And the overwhelming majority of them are Red to the core.

No matter how bad you think Thaksin and his hot little sis are, the farmers know the other side are a hell of a lot worse.

They're smarter than you guys give them credit for and that's why the Democrats are boycotting again.

"And his hot little sis" Oh so your blindness is not political You are just simply besotted with" the beautiful Yingluck".........Pathetic....... . Mate, she doesn't know you're alive & if she did, her big brother would not let her date you. Beauty is only skin deep. Mother told you to look deeper if you want meaningful relationships.

[Gonsalviz]

Good. Get rid of farm subsidy once and for all.

What a waste of Bangkokian Tax Payer money.

It is obvious that Bangkok people have been paying too much for rice, onion, garlic, palm oil, sugar, etc. It is cheaper to buy Chinese import.

It is not the farmers that gain from this.