Surapong tells the world undemocratic movement brings down democratic election

[bigbamboo]

Surapong is of course correct. Suthep and the ammart and their supporters are working as a well-coordinated team to undermine Thai democracy (a system that they do not believe in, of course) on several different fronts:

- The "Democrat" party undermines democracy by refusing to take part in the February elections.

- Suthep's insurrectionist PDRC undermines democracy by blocking Thais from voting in the elections, and by continuing its intimidatory occupations of the streets.

- The Constitutional Court undermines democracy by its astonishing decision to annul the February elections.

- The ammart strategists undermine democracy by their new definitions of democracy, whereby it no longer involves universal suffrage, and whereby a group of "wise ones" will, in future, be able to block "undesirables" from standing in the new-style "elections".

This planned destruction of Thai democracy by Suthep and his colleagues is evident for all to see, and indeed most of the international media do see and understand what is to be expected. The media are also reporting, correctly, that this campaign to pressure the country into accepting Suthep's quasi-feudal system is already causing huge economic damage to Thailand – damage which will likely increase in the weeks and months ahead.

Really?

I think the most remarkable aspect of this fascist coup attempt has been the deafening sound of indifferent silence from abroad.

[Arkady]

I doubt that the Constitutional Court will react but there seems to be prima facie case of contempt of court here, which is a serious criminal offence under Thailand's antiquated Penal Code. I wouldn't be surprised to see calls for him to charged to uphold the dignity of the court. When a government minister criticises the courts it is usually regarded as political interference, viz the calls for David Cameron to resign for attempted interference in case Nigella Lawson was a plaintiff.

Not sure what foreign governments think of a foreign minister criticising a decision of the highest court in the land in a case where he has a strong conflict of interests. Most of them would be forced to resign in a withering hail of media and public criticism.

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[brownbear]

This guy is obviously a moron, but, he is only following orders. He has no future in this country and will probably be considered in Dubai as a total failure and unwelcome there, family or not: just more fodder to protect the big man with no clothes. Have to wonder where he will ultimately turn up?

Give him a break I say. Somewhere high up would probably be best all around.

[Trembly]

Can someone with a firmer grasp of the numbers please tell me :

1. How many eligible voters there are in Thailand

2. How many of those voted

?

[tomyummer]

This Tinglish news is getting very annoying. Don't these outlets have proper English editors??

[rametindallas]

Earlier we had Thaksin's lawyer denying his involvement in violence past and present. A man of peace

Now we have Thaksin's cousin trying to spin that PTP are the party of democracy, law and order; and the legitimate government.

Seems like PTP are preparing ground so that everyone outside won't be surprised when all these bad courts, judges, independent agencies force this law abiding government of the people to unleash their own militia to counter this attempted coup against them.

He conveniently leaves out any comments about PTP's behavior, their lies. widespread corruption and illegal activities; the cheating in parliament and refusal to respect or obey the law. His own illegal issuing of a passport is a classic example - no shame and no intention of answering any questions.

Sadly, most foreign journalists also fail to present all the facts - read the cut and paste AFP reports still rambling about the poor adoring their hero Dr, Thaksin or the BBC's very pro government write ups. The PTP PR machine is very good, and well funded albeit with tax payers money.

He tries to paint a picture of a democratic law abiding innocent government, being forced out by anti democratic factions. This isn't being done to get sympathy. Sadly, I think its being done to stifle world reaction at the coup they themselves will launch, They are that desperate to keep in power and the leader that crazy enough.

As soon as Yingluck is indicted, found guilty and impeached they will kick off.

Big Lie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:^[5][6]

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.^[7]"

^{Does this psychological profile remind you of anyone in Thailand?}

Edited March 25, 2014 by rametindallas

[tezzainoz]

I am busy getting my speach ready

The high court in Australia has decided we need another election in Western Australia

the last elections has been voided

Until now I though this was okay

But our mightier than thou Thai Parliment, says we can not do this

I will take Surapong with me, the world looks up to him and will almost certainly agree with my request

[PREM-R]

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[Dogmatix]

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[Dogmatix]

Where did Suraphong obtain his PhD? Were he and Dr Chalerm classmates?

[GarryP]

Every time Thaksin's cousin speaks we are privy to how Thaksin thinks. Thaksin clearly thinks these press conferences are a great idea. He clearly thinks that his cousin is a fantastic and credible spokesman. And he also clearly thinks that the unconscionable act of undermining the legitimacy and authority of the Constitutional Court is going to go over well internationally. If ever we needed evidence that Thaksin sees things in a very warped way, this is it. It shows he is so isolated in his own world and his own way of seeing things, that he is convinced that everyone else will see things just as he does. After all, he's had delirious success with red shirt radio - likely beyond his wildest dreams. By assuming that the world at large is as gullible shows that Thaksin holds very little respect for people's ability to reason and assimilate on their own. He is like a kindergarten teacher who is so convinced of his power to persuade the mind of a five year old, that he can simply transfer the same ideas, the same thoughts, and the same skills and get exactly the same results with those who are older, wiser, and more experienced. What Surapong is doing is unconscionable by any measure, both domestically and internationally. Going after the highest court in the land is a button which should never be pushed by any government official. Pheu Thai is pushing it, and there is no precedent for it. It's inexcusable and shameful. That is what the world sees when they see this press conference. And it's pure desperation.

I have one question for you. Do you in all sincerity believe that the Constitional Court is impartial and that all its decisions are based purely on the letter of the law as written?

[SABloke]

Every time I see that man's picture, the same question comes to mind:

Would you buy a used car from this man???

I wouldn't even buy a new one...

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[Jim walker]

Must fight democracy all the way or we will never get a good commie dictatorship organised in the country, need to get some more advice from Putin a firmer hand is needed to get the election results completed prior to any unnecessary costly elections.

[rubl]

Every time Thaksin's cousin speaks we are privy to how Thaksin thinks. Thaksin clearly thinks these press conferences are a great idea. He clearly thinks that his cousin is a fantastic and credible spokesman. And he also clearly thinks that the unconscionable act of undermining the legitimacy and authority of the Constitutional Court is going to go over well internationally. If ever we needed evidence that Thaksin sees things in a very warped way, this is it. It shows he is so isolated in his own world and his own way of seeing things, that he is convinced that everyone else will see things just as he does. After all, he's had delirious success with red shirt radio - likely beyond his wildest dreams. By assuming that the world at large is as gullible shows that Thaksin holds very little respect for people's ability to reason and assimilate on their own. He is like a kindergarten teacher who is so convinced of his power to persuade the mind of a five year old, that he can simply transfer the same ideas, the same thoughts, and the same skills and get exactly the same results with those who are older, wiser, and more experienced. What Surapong is doing is unconscionable by any measure, both domestically and internationally. Going after the highest court in the land is a button which should never be pushed by any government official. Pheu Thai is pushing it, and there is no precedent for it. It's inexcusable and shameful. That is what the world sees when they see this press conference. And it's pure desperation.

I have one question for you. Do you in all sincerity believe that the Constitional Court is impartial and that all its decisions are based purely on the letter of the law as written?

A better question might be "do you believe that the Thai constitution would in it's current form be acceptable as constitution and base for the legal system in 'normal' democratic countries".

The answer might be 'no'. Note though that even in 'normal' democracies the constitution (or whatever they use instead) has seen many changes. Even in a country like the United Kingdom we had a time where only the right people could vote, then only those who paid more than a certain amount in taxes and a hundred years ago even women were allowed to vote. Imagine

Edited March 26, 2014 by rubl

[GarryP]

I agree that the current document leaves something to be desired. Not exactly democratic". But with all those other countries having gone through all that trouble to get it right, one would have thought that Thailand could at least skip a few hundred years of trying to put a decent and fair document together.

[rubl]

I agree that the current document leaves something to be desired. Not exactly democratic". But with all those other countries having gone through all that trouble to get it right, one would have thought that Thailand could at least skip a few hundred years of trying to put a decent and fair document together.

Too logical, my dear chap. Also you seem to forget one of the universal rights:

The right to make one's own mistakes

[JamesDean3]

Khun Surapong, Elections are not a guarantee for democracy, even North Korea has Elections with 100% turnout. Bet you they are more Democratic than your Pheu Thai.