Victory day soon: Suthep

[Old Man River]

however, there has to be mechanisms in place for removing corrupt politicians and/or their parties from office.

It's called an election.

And anyone who thinks the current political turmoil has anything to do with stamping out corruption is seriously deluded. It's about conserving the 'traditional' system of the disenfranchised right-wing, which - the irony! - is essentially based on corruption and always has been. The right-wing invented corruption in Thailand.

Thaksin was the first to try to clean out the old system, which is why he is so hated by the entitled minority who lost the political game. Suthep and his backers are now attempting to force the country into an extremely dangerous political regression.

Look. One person has one opinion, the next person has a different opinion. It's no good saying 'my opinion is the right one'. The only way to settle it is have an election. Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the safest and least corrupt system there is.

I am curious. Given what we have seen from Thaksin and his clones' cabinet, isn't it the same corruption, but different people? Corruption is corruption. What does it matter how you pronounce your name? The issue is how much you allow, and what you do to the people that trust you.

Answer me this, if you are capable, why wasn't repayment of the farmers budgeted before the protests?

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[3NUMBAS]

he hasn't been taking his bipolar medication again ,where his nurse ?

[3NUMBAS]

however, there has to be mechanisms in place for removing corrupt politicians and/or their parties from office.

It's called an election.

And anyone who thinks the current political turmoil has anything to do with stamping out corruption is seriously deluded. It's about conserving the 'traditional' system of the disenfranchised right-wing, which - the irony! - is essentially based on corruption and always has been. The right-wing invented corruption in Thailand.

Thaksin was the first to try to clean out the old system, which is why he is so hated by the entitled minority who lost the political game. Suthep and his backers are now attempting to force the country into an extremely dangerous political regression.

Look. One person has one opinion, the next person has a different opinion. It's no good saying 'my opinion is the right one'. The only way to settle it is have an election. Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the safest and least corrupt system there is.

you hit the nail on the head there bro

[binjalin]

however, there has to be mechanisms in place for removing corrupt politicians and/or their parties from office.

It's called an election.

And anyone who thinks the current political turmoil has anything to do with stamping out corruption is seriously deluded. It's about conserving the 'traditional' system of the disenfranchised right-wing, which - the irony! - is essentially based on corruption and always has been. The right-wing invented corruption in Thailand.

Thaksin was the first to try to clean out the old system, which is why he is so hated by the entitled minority who lost the political game. Suthep and his backers are now attempting to force the country into an extremely dangerous political regression.

Look. One person has one opinion, the next person has a different opinion. It's no good saying 'my opinion is the right one'. The only way to settle it is have an election. Democracy isn't perfect, but it's the safest and least corrupt system there is.

this is SPOT ON and so obviously true it beggars belief some on here cannot see it

[binjalin]

Thankyou Suthep for all the protesting that has virtually ruined my business.

Alfred, the NOT SO Great, (businessman) you are not the only one... But I am more than willing to suffer my losses in silence... When Suthep succedes and Thailand rids itself of the Shinewatras all will not have been in vain... Rock on the Thai peoples...

haha problem is the Thai People don't support Suthep - only the BKK elites!

don't believe me? WAIT for the next election... and the next... and the next - it ain't over just because the judiciary find a way to get get rid of Yingluck (going to happen soon unfortunately).

The Thai People will not tolerate being ruled by the yellow elites anymore... watch and see (but it may take years)

[binjalin]

Clearly, the media is more interested in Suthep demagoguery than in getting its reporters to the first major red shirt rally anywhere near Bangkok since the end of last year.

There are photo's of the humongous RS rally floating about in some media and the Internet...Perhaps someone more capable than I could post them here......instead, showing a photo of someone hugging Suthep as in this article. This is hugely telling of where media sympathies lie, and which images they want to avoid.

Some more excerpts of Jatuporn's speech:

We will fight if the country becomes undemocratic."

"The Thai people have reached the point of no hope, because we are now aware of the repeated deceptions," Mr Jatuporn told reporters afterward.

"What we are most concerned about, what we want to warn all sides against, is a civil war, which we do not want to happen. ... It will happen if there is a coup and democracy is stolen."

Just a thought for those pulling the strings of the judicial and Independent Organizations to consider.

[ianf]

Suthep is out of his mind. He said as the "people's medium," he will nominate a new candidate for prime minister. And a lot of Thais are following this lunatic self absorbed nut job.

No more 'lunatic self absorbed nut job' (as you so eloquently term it) than Jaturporn, Tilda and the red supporters here.

[Loles]

Victory day soon.

AGAIN ???

[JAG]

On another note, I agree Suthep seems to have lost the plot just a bit, however what suggestions do people have to choose an interim PM/Govt when that time comes? Ask HM to choose and appoint an independent body who then choose the rest of the temporary Govt? Or would that not be acceptable also?

Hold a general election, as the constitution requires. The army can stop playing games and ensure the polls are not impeded, and then everyone can abide by the results.

If the Democrats/PDRC/yellows have the majority support so often claimed (on this forum) then they will win.

Anything else is an undemocratic power grab, no matter what the "Peoples Medium" may say.

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[transam]

But this lot have knee problems............

Edited April 6, 2014 by transam

[Issangeorge]

I have been following Thai politics since Prem was prime minister, and by far and away Yingluck has been the worst prime minister Thailand has had in that period, and I am no friend of Thaksin or any of his family. However having said that, I would rather have Yingluck as PM than Suthep running the country. I just hope that whoever is behind Suthep realizes that the Thai people or the international community will not except him as the defecto leader of the country. Without the backing of the military there is no way he can do what he says he will do. Let's hope the military don't back him.

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Edited April 6, 2014 by Issangeorge

[larsjohnsson]

Thankyou Suthep for all the protesting that has virtually ruined my business.

4 people I know lost their jobs because of him. They worked in one of the hotels close to the MBK intersection. After over one month with very little guests the hotel lay off many of their workers.

[northernjohn]

He has got carried away at this point.

However it is interesting that his group are talking about moving on with a reform committee while all Jutaporn and the reds can talk about is civil war and a judicial coup.

Thaksin know realizes the army wont step in and give him the coup he has been pushing for so now the excuse to bring out the armed reds will be a judicial coup.

One side wants to go forward the other back.

Totally agree with you. Suthep's motives are just and honest. How ever he is proposing a illegal self serving method to get them. When and if Yingluck is tossed out on her ear to do what she does best Photo Op's and dumb statements I am sure the government has a system in place to set up the type government he proposes It is all right for him to recommend a new interim PM but it is also OK for others to recommend one. It is not his place to choose one.

He has done the country a tremendous service against what at first seemed to be over whelming odds. He has made the nation aware of the lack of concern the PTP have for them the corruption they have and the inbreeding with nepotism.

Plus with the weak showing the red shirts have come up with this weekend pretty much sounded the death bell for them. People are tired of their intimidation and violence and are leaving them in the hundreds of thousands.

It is time for Suthep to let the system take it's course. The system knows full good and well that favoritism (nepotism) will just bring back the righteous indignation of the grass roots people and civil war will break out.

Suggest but take no power or authority.

Edited April 6, 2014 by northernjohn

[northernjohn]

From what I read, it will be guerrilla warfare, not like in 2010. It puts Prayuth, the defender,in a tough position.

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Pls tell me where you read it will be guerilla warfare.

Also, do you really think Thais are truly capable of a 'respectable standard' of guerilla warfare? They can't even get close to the stumps with a grenade!

On the first part, you will just have to do your homework. On the second, I fear a Southern type of guerrilla warfare. Are Thai's doing this or hired guns. Does it matter?

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You might want to do your own home work. The southern gorilla fighters are religious fanatics. The red shirts are just a bunch of uneducated people with nothing better to do than follow the pied piper they have no intention of killing their neighbor. Thaksin will have to hire more mercenaries for that.

[northernjohn]

He's getting tiresome as well as egotistical.

Well I have to admit he is getting tiresome. Amazing he could keep up the pace with out him the movement would have died and we would be faced with a government looking to steal another 2.2 billion baht. That is just this year. Next year they would be back for more.

As for egotistical well I can see that when I look at all the good he has done the country. I would probably get that way my self if I could do that much for the country under the odds that he had working against him.

I don't mind him being egotistical but I do believe he has done his part and it is time to let the system work. The system dares not allow favoritism or nepotism in here as it knows the country is no longer going to allow it.

Do you think you would be humble?

[limitless]

yellow, red, black, stripes whatever.....this saga is becoming extremely boring !

...this saga is becoming extremely dangerous...a very deep rooted divide between 2 groups of Thai society who cannot or will not enter into dialogue to try to resolve the situation. ......Dunno about you guys, but 'm getting the feeling neither group will lose face and back down... only way out of this situation seems to be the worst case scenario.....

[slipperx]

Suthep is sounding delusion...it is not his call on any PM selection. That is for the courts to resolve via the constitution. He needs to go and visit a bar and get laid.

My goodness you are as much of a nut job as Suthep & Juttaporn! Best thing would be to put all you extremists into a room together and let nature take its course. Leave it a couple of months before opening the door and in the meantime allow more moderate people to determine the course of democracy. There is no place for red shirts any more than for a commoner unilaterally appointing a PM.

Madness in the news everywhere.

[Old Man River]

From what I read, it will be guerrilla warfare, not like in 2010. It puts Prayuth, the defender,in a tough position.

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Pls tell me where you read it will be guerilla warfare.

Also, do you really think Thais are truly capable of a 'respectable standard' of guerilla warfare? They can't even get close to the stumps with a grenade!

On the first part, you will just have to do your homework. On the second, I fear a Southern type of guerrilla warfare. Are Thai's doing this or hired guns. Does it matter?

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You might want to do your own home work. The southern gorilla fighters are religious fanatics. The red shirts are just a bunch of uneducated people with nothing better to do than follow the pied piper they have no intention of killing their neighbor. Thaksin will have to hire more mercenaries for that.

Do your own homework. Money or cause, a killer is a killer.

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Edited April 6, 2014 by Old Man River

[Calimotty]

Yeah I have to put my prediction on record, This man will not out live 2014.

[bigbamboo]

Thankyou Suthep for all the protesting that has virtually ruined my business.

Alfred, the NOT SO Great, (businessman) you are not the only one... But I am more than willing to suffer my losses in silence... When Suthep succedes and Thailand rids itself of the Shinewatras all will not have been in vain... Rock on the Thai peoples...

I'm with both of you on this but my worry is that almost all the politicians (sic) here are either useless, corrupt or in most cases both that the current mess will only be sorted by a spell of military rule. No one wants it, it doesn't put Thailand in a good light but it may be necessary for a while for the sake of the people and the country.

[northernjohn]

Pls tell me where you read it will be guerilla warfare.

Also, do you really think Thais are truly capable of a 'respectable standard' of guerilla warfare? They can't even get close to the stumps with a grenade!

On the first part, you will just have to do your homework. On the second, I fear a Southern type of guerrilla warfare. Are Thai's doing this or hired guns. Does it matter?

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You might want to do your own home work. The southern gorilla fighters are religious fanatics. The red shirts are just a bunch of uneducated people with nothing better to do than follow the pied piper they have no intention of killing their neighbor. Thaksin will have to hire more mercenaries for that.

Do your own homework. Money or cause, a killer is a killer.

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Got to you I see.

the ray of truth shines brightly on you and you wander of into no where.

You make as much sense as money or a cause rape is still rape.

[northernjohn]

Thankyou Suthep for all the protesting that has virtually ruined my business.

Alfred, the NOT SO Great, (businessman) you are not the only one... But I am more than willing to suffer my losses in silence... When Suthep succedes and Thailand rids itself of the Shinewatras all will not have been in vain... Rock on the Thai peoples...

I'm with both of you on this but my worry is that almost all the politicians (sic) here are either useless, corrupt or in most cases both that the current mess will only be sorted by a spell of military rule. No one wants it, it doesn't put Thailand in a good light but it may be necessary for a while for the sake of the people and the country.

I like it but I do have a reservation. Thailand never did give Abhist a chance.

A minority government dependent on Thaksin trained people.

One man say no we will not support you and 20 seats gone along with his position.

The man had to many cooks in the kitchen. He was not given a chance.

[Fat Haggis]

I've maintained all along that Abhisit is the man to lead Thailand forwards, he just needs to put himself out there a bit more, he's way back there in Sutheps shadow, he needs to find that torch and lead from the front.

[Old Man River]

Pls tell me where you read it will be guerilla warfare.

Also, do you really think Thais are truly capable of a 'respectable standard' of guerilla warfare? They can't even get close to the stumps with a grenade!

On the first part, you will just have to do your homework. On the second, I fear a Southern type of guerrilla warfare. Are Thai's doing this or hired guns. Does it matter?

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You might want to do your own home work. The southern gorilla fighters are religious fanatics. The red shirts are just a bunch of uneducated people with nothing better to do than follow the pied piper they have no intention of killing their neighbor. Thaksin will have to hire more mercenaries for that.

Do your own homework. Money or cause, a killer is a killer.

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Got to you I see.

the ray of truth shines brightly on you and you wander of into no where.

You make as much sense as money or a cause rape is still rape.

A Kaewson quote eh?

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[JAG]

I've maintained all along that Abhisit is the man to lead Thailand forwards, he just needs to put himself out there a bit more, he's way back there in Sutheps shadow, he needs to find that torch and lead from the front.

Unfortunately the Thai electorate don't seem to agree!

Simple solution to the problem then, we won't ask them.

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Edited April 6, 2014 by JAG

[icare999]

i loathe Takin and all his scan and rest as well as red shirt hooligans and totally support getting rid of the Taksin regime but even as a 100% supporter of Suphet me my wife and some this friends are pissed off with his constant victory this time crap

[VegasVic]

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Thankyou Suthep for all the protesting that has virtually ruined my business.

Alfred, the NOT SO Great, (businessman) you are not the only one... But I am more than willing to suffer my losses in silence... When Suthep succedes and Thailand rids itself of the Shinewatras all will not have been in vain... Rock on the Thai peoples... width=20 alt=wai2.gif>

haha problem is the Thai People don't support Suthep - only the BKK elites!

don't believe me? WAIT for the next election... and the next... and the next - it ain't over just because the judiciary find a way to get get rid of Yingluck (going to happen soon unfortunately).

The Thai People will not tolerate being ruled by the yellow elites anymore... watch and see (but it may take years) alt=wai.gif width=20 height=20>

The Bangkok elites and the southern troublemakers! What you have said here is very true, suthep can organize protest after protest, and make proclamation after proclamation, but no matter how many people he gets to blow their whistles it all comes down to an eventual election that suthep will never win Sutheps only chance is for a military overthrow and for him to lead a fascist state, which of course would be disasterous for Thailand and thus will never happen

[ddavidovsky]

I am curious. Given what we have seen from Thaksin and his clones' cabinet, isn't it the same corruption, but different people? Corruption is corruption. What does it matter how you pronounce your name? The issue is how much you allow, and what you do to the people that trust you.

Answer me this, if you are capable, why wasn't repayment of the farmers budgeted before the protests?

FIrst you'll have to show me proof - I said proof - of Thaksin's alleged corruption beyond that trumped up by right-wing kangaroo courts, right-wing anti-Thaksin indoctrination and right-wing hear-say. I have yet to see anything even remotely as corrupt as the opposition are displaying. I count a concerted and unconstitutional attempt to abolish democracy in order to usher a minority (again) into power as a form of corruption of the highest order - and we all have plain evidence of that.

Just in case you still don't get the simple logic: the budgetting of the agricultural subsidy is irrelevant to this discussion if the majority of voters still support the government. We have to respect the majority's opinion more than that of a ranting minority if we consider all humans fundamentally equal. The right-wing in Thailand clearly does not. The government's performance may well be lamentable on the agricultural subsidy issue and other issues. But all governments, even the best of them, screw up. The only important point is that if they screw up enough, they can be voted out. Voted, not forced.

Anyway, to repeat: the current turmoil is not about ending corruption. That's pie in the sky. All those who fall for it are victims of a very insidious and worrying form of indoctrination.

If you lose an election, try harder next time. There' s nothing more to be said.

Edited April 6, 2014 by ddavidovsky

[Thai at Heart]

Thankyou Suthep for all the protesting that has virtually ruined my business.

Alfred, the NOT SO Great, (businessman) you are not the only one... But I am more than willing to suffer my losses in silence... When Suthep succedes and Thailand rids itself of the Shinewatras all will not have been in vain... Rock on the Thai peoples...

I'm with both of you on this but my worry is that almost all the politicians (sic) here are either useless, corrupt or in most cases both that the current mess will only be sorted by a spell of military rule. No one wants it, it doesn't put Thailand in a good light but it may be necessary for a while for the sake of the people and the country.

I like it but I do have a reservation. Thailand never did give Abhist a chance.

A minority government dependent on Thaksin trained people.

One man say no we will not support you and 20 seats gone along with his position.

The man had to many cooks in the kitchen. He was not given a chance.

No the majority didn't give him a chance, and he even had to jerrmander a dodgy coalition together to get into the chair.

[Thai at Heart]

I've maintained all along that Abhisit is the man to lead Thailand forwards, he just needs to put himself out there a bit more, he's way back there in Sutheps shadow, he needs to find that torch and lead from the front.

He needs to become his ownan, disown the democrats.

He is a little like clegg in the coalition. Presumably quite smart, but not really relevant. Chuwit is more relevant than Abhisit.