thesetat2013 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The ministry of finance cant count or calculate. The tourism ministry cant count or calculate. The CMPO cant count. Who would count this to know tje winner. Suthep says 20000 were with the reds yet Worapong says about 100000. This is their first hurdle to this challenge. Who can count. After that they will claim a biased counter heheee . Then make a legal case against the counter and either the PTP will ignore their ruling or the PDRC will protest it. This countries political parties have become a big party of idiots. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The real question of import is this - What will the UDD do in the event of a guilty verdict by the NACC and/or the Constitutional Court ? They have already said that they will not accept such a ruling. Pheu Thai has more than implied as much for themselves. If the UDD follows through with their threat to resist the judicial rulings, it will be a serious challenge to the very legitimacy of the judiciary and the checks and balances. But if Pheu Thai also resists such verdicts, it would be much more serious, because they symbolize the administration of the day. And if CAPO under Chalerm also chimes in with Pheu Thai - as he has without fail on every occasion in the whole of his public life - then it becomes even more serious. This is the real question of the day. The number of people the PDRC bring as opposed to the UDD is a parlour game. What is of consequence is the question as to what would happen if the courts were not respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Just waiting for the next news headline. Adobe want crackdown on use of pirated PhotoShop software. Though looking at the feeble attempt by the Reds yesterday, I should think Adobe would be the first to say it was not done with PhotoShop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoopyDoo Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Instead of this "my dad is bigger than your dad" nonsense, perhaps they could hold a general election, no polling stations blocked, all parties involved and then see who gets the most votes. you left out... no 500 baht incentives no intimidation no blocking / threats to/of other parties from campaigning in all villages anyone else want to add to this laundry list? Ban dangerous populist policies. Ban the theft of ballot boxes and vote counting fraud. Ban campaigning with public funds and state TV. Ban the intimidation of the EC by the government in power. Ban the banning of alcohol sales to obvious non-Thais who can't even bloody vote anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorchiangmai Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 This is marginally less pointless than a biggest willy competition. What's the prize? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 st price is civil war. And the winners are ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Town Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Instead of this "my dad is bigger than your dad" nonsense, perhaps they could hold a general election, no polling stations blocked, all parties involved and then see who gets the most votes. you left out... no 500 baht incentives no intimidation no blocking / threats to/of other parties from campaigning in all villages anyone else want to add to this laundry list? Sure, the Dems are guilty of all the above, but I don't think PTP are totally innocent either. please point me to where the dems have blocked / threatened anyone from campaigning in certain villages/ towns/ districts? I would suggest you worry about the current situation though, looks like another big ban from politics is coming to team red for obvious well documented reasons...or shall we start another list? Rice, transfers, constitution, infrastructure voting.... If you didn't notice the Dem intimidation across the south in the last election, or any of the news stories that said the Dems spent more on vote buying than the PTP, you really are clueless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Town Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Instead of this "my dad is bigger than your dad" nonsense, perhaps they could hold a general election, no polling stations blocked, all parties involved and then see who gets the most votes. The Thai People who are not sheep of a corrupt Government are aware of alleged corruption and abuses of authority by the current PTP Party and the negative effects on the country associated with the influence of former prime minister Thakin Shinawatra. In Jan 2014 the Election Commission (EC) had repeatedly stated it could not guarantee a fair election, but the Caretaker Government insisted on going ahead with it in a bid to whitewash its wrongdoings. Was this a Democratic Election .............. No Unless an election is fair, it can not be democratic. Government supporters continued to threaten independent organisations, the people and political parties which opposed it. and the police fail to perform their duties. Ms Yingluck had never called for the pro-government and red-shirt demonstrators to behave, suggesting that she supported the actions of these same redshirt demonstrators. Thai People have witnessed red-shirt demonstrators threaten other party members without facing arrest. The Democrat Party has also been threatened, many times if they want to campaign in Issan During the 2005 general election, a political canvasser belonging to his party in Phichit province had been told to stop his campaigning. When the threat was ignored, the canvasser was shot dead in front of his house three days before the election. Police have still not arrested any suspects In 2014 things are even worse. Anti-government demonstrators were being ambushed on a main Hyway and no suspects had been arrested. Under these circumstances, No other party but the PTP is safe to campaign for votes in the North East of Thailand “The [Democrat] party conducted a survey of potential candidates nationwide and found that 80% had no safe place to campaign for votes, except those in the South, Bangkok and parts of the Central Plains. So, is this a democratic Election, is it fair if only one political party can campaign for votes but others cannot, Wow! What planet are you from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Town Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The real question of import is this - What will the UDD do in the event of a guilty verdict by the NACC and/or the Constitutional Court ? They have already said that they will not accept such a ruling. Pheu Thai has more than implied as much for themselves. If the UDD follows through with their threat to resist the judicial rulings, it will be a serious challenge to the very legitimacy of the judiciary and the checks and balances. But if Pheu Thai also resists such verdicts, it would be much more serious, because they symbolize the administration of the day. And if CAPO under Chalerm also chimes in with Pheu Thai - as he has without fail on every occasion in the whole of his public life - then it becomes even more serious. This is the real question of the day. The number of people the PDRC bring as opposed to the UDD is a parlour game. What is of consequence is the question as to what would happen if the courts were not respected. The judiciary itself has created the challenge to its legitimacy. Everybody outside Thailand and more than 50% of the people in Thailand believe the courts are biased, and all the available evidence suggests such, so why should the people accept the ruling of the courts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 If Jatuporn is smart, he'll pick the next election day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Can't you just imagine the staff at all the embassies in Thailand pissing themselves laughing at their hosts. Being posted to the Land of Smiles theses days must be the equivalent of being sent to Disneyland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Don't know how they would count, the numbers that attended the latest red effort are so far apart depending on who did the estimate. For instance it was reported that 'security' said a max or 35,000 and Thida said 300,000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Confusing news. Another topic has "Mr Jatuporn accepted a challenge by anti-government leader Suthep Thaugsuban to conduct a comparative count on the number of demonstrators for both factions." http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/717137-red-shirt-rally-called-off-early;-leaders-vow-to-gather-again-regroup/?p=7661035 So who challenged and who accepted? More important who is to count Additionally, is the total number of attendees any real indication of support for whatever party / group? Example: One color gets a paid mob together then bombards that mob with not much more than reruns of hate speeches and claims of being the protectors of democracy but at the same time, no attend to hide it, they proclaim and act like dictators, along with thuggery to stop freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 They said to show the world... Hmmm the world doesn't really care. Thailand is NOTHING in the real scheme of worldly affairs Marcusd. Via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Don't know how they would count, the numbers that attended the latest red effort are so far apart depending on who did the estimate. For instance it was reported that 'security' said a max or 35,000 and Thida said 300,000. Robby.... Where did YOU get educated??? C'mon now... Why let a few zeros or truth get in the way of a good story? you just don't understand Moulin rouge marketing. Now better get some real advice from our pi,king nate frizzy boppe. Marcusd. Via tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyknee Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 They should both stand up on a stage together, drop their trousers and may the biggest man win...As if that would happen, they'd both be waiting to see the other one drop their strides first before accepting/declining the challenge.Then they'd both call on Ted anyways http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-pnUwJ7mm2hbm27/orgazmo_1997_shooting_porn_scene_with_black_stunt_cock/ Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 What! No Facebook wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 ....in light of the fact that the country is practically bankrupt.....(come on, if you can't pay your own rice farmers...).... ....there are a lot more serious facts and figures to be considered....or compared....down the line.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacker Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I thought that was the purpose of an election, i.e. show who has the biggest support. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Just waiting for the next news headline. Adobe want crackdown on use of pirated PhotoShop software. Though looking at the feeble attempt by the Reds yesterday, RedShirtMass.jpg I should think Adobe would be the first to say it was not done with PhotoShop. Looking at that you would have to say Thaksins p-nis is larger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Line them up and have them sound off like in the Army. 1, 2, 3...... 4,472,689, etc, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The real question of import is this - What will the UDD do in the event of a guilty verdict by the NACC and/or the Constitutional Court ? They have already said that they will not accept such a ruling. Pheu Thai has more than implied as much for themselves. If the UDD follows through with their threat to resist the judicial rulings, it will be a serious challenge to the very legitimacy of the judiciary and the checks and balances. But if Pheu Thai also resists such verdicts, it would be much more serious, because they symbolize the administration of the day. And if CAPO under Chalerm also chimes in with Pheu Thai - as he has without fail on every occasion in the whole of his public life - then it becomes even more serious. This is the real question of the day. The number of people the PDRC bring as opposed to the UDD is a parlour game. What is of consequence is the question as to what would happen if the courts were not respected. The judiciary itself has created the challenge to its legitimacy. Everybody outside Thailand and more than 50% of the people in Thailand believe the courts are biased, and all the available evidence suggests such, so why should the people accept the ruling of the courts? Nonsense. Any links to where you get the "fact' from that "Everybody outside Thailand and more than 50% of the people in Thailand believe the courts are biased". Or did you just make it up yourself like the UDD/PPT supporters usually do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfmanjack Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 you left out... no 500 baht incentives no intimidation no blocking / threats to/of other parties from campaigning in all villages anyone else want to add to this laundry list? Sure, the Dems are guilty of all the above, but I don't think PTP are totally innocent either. please point me to where the dems have blocked / threatened anyone from campaigning in certain villages/ towns/ districts? I would suggest you worry about the current situation though, looks like another big ban from politics is coming to team red for obvious well documented reasons...or shall we start another list? Rice, transfers, constitution, infrastructure voting.... If you didn't notice the Dem intimidation across the south in the last election, or any of the news stories that said the Dems spent more on vote buying than the PTP, you really are clueless. Do you have a link where the Dems said they spent more money on vote buying? I have seen where a Dem said they spent more money on campaigning than PTP did but there was no mention of where that money was spent. ie one party spent more on TV ads and the other more on direct vote buying. The same Dem did say vote buying wasn't an issue but i wonder how he knows that for certain. I agree that paying for the vote still allows the smarter people to take from both sides and still vote how they want but I have seen videos of the redshirts paying people that are likely to vote Dem and taking their id cards so they can't vote. that method is much more effective than paying people to vote a certain way. One of the changes that needs to be made to the voting booths is to make i more private like the booths I am used to in the USA. Once I walk in no one can see any part pf my body but my feet. That is not the case here. The polling station I visited during the last election basically blocked the view of the persons midsection unless they were really short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsv1238 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Why not hold a national election? What an international embarrassment. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Why not hold a national election? What an international embarrassment. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Because of endemic corruption. That's why they want to clean up corruption first. Please, come back after the next ice age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Confusing news. Another topic has "Mr Jatuporn accepted a challenge by anti-government leader Suthep Thaugsuban to conduct a comparative count on the number of demonstrators for both factions." http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/717137-red-shirt-rally-called-off-early;-leaders-vow-to-gather-again-regroup/?p=7661035 So who challenged and who accepted? Jatuporn can only count to 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 By turning it into a dick swinging contest these two have shown that they are totally unsuitable to lead a faction in an intelligent manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 This is getting really, really immatured. Childish actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 If Jatuporn is smart, he'll pick the next election day. Terribly sorry, but rallies are not acceptable on election day. they tend to 'block' voters from voting, or act as menacing, discourages people who dislike crowds, things like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGP Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) The cartoon at The Nation nailed it http://www.nationmultimedia.com/specials/nationphoto/show.php?id=30&pid=17182 I love the detail of Mr. Toad's face catching a fly Edited April 8, 2014 by MGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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