Need to understand better a strange Exit Visa situation that happened to me in 2012.

[chuck1106]

Hello there

I am a Canadian Man living in Philippine for 4 plus years. I go back to Canada every year for 5 weeks for Income Tax, see family etc.I always buy a Return ticket Vancouver-Manila.

In 2012 I wanted to visit Thailand with my girl friend. We both got return tickets for 2 weeks and got Visas at the airport in Bangkok. We visited around, enjoy Thailand and in the day of departure waiting in line at the Bangkok Airport counter to get the boarding pass to get back to Philippine.

Now... the ticket counter Agent, as soon as he looked at my passport told me that HE CANNOT ALLOW ME TO EXIT Thailand unless I show him my Exit ticket flight from Philpppine !!! ( My flight to Canada was 3-4 months away since that incident!)

I was stunned..I try to explain to him that this is a Philippine matter not Thai.., that I do not have a paper copy with me etc. He did not care. He rejected me saying that if I do not produce a return ticket from Philippine then I'll have to buy one there in Bangkok airport, one way ticket Manila-Vancouver, !!!!

I finally rushed to an Internet Café, had a copy of the return ticket in my email inbox, print it and show to this guy..

Only then I was allowed to board the plane back to Philippine !

I could not believe this guy or this rule!

Why he did care about Philippine as we were in Thailand?

Was I wrong or was this guy was nuts?

Can anybody shed some light about this matter?!

Thank you

Sorry for the long post

Chuck F. M.

[partington]

It is often the case that airlines will not let you board flights to countries for which you don't have a long term visa, without a ticket out of the country.

This is often the case for example with flights to Thailand from any country. Often the airline will ask to see your exit ticket before they will let you board.

[chuck1106]

It is often the case that airlines will not let you board flights to countries for which you don't have a long term visa, without a ticket out of the country.

This is often the case for example with flights to Thailand from any country. Often the airline will ask to see your exit ticket before they will let you board.

Thank you sir..

Thank you indeed

[Jdietz]

As per the above, if you are refused entry in the Philippines, the airline is responsible for the cost of your return.

So you need to produce either a valid visa, or proof of an exit flight within the 'Visa Exempt' period.

[ubonjoe]

He was correct because the Philippines require an a return or onward ticket for entry.

You can check the requirements listed on the IATA data base here: http://www.staralliance.com/en/services/visa-and-health/#

[Sophon]

As per the above, if you are refused entry in the Philippines, the airline is responsible for the cost of your return.

So you need to produce either a valid visa, or proof of an exit flight within the 'Visa Exempt' period.

This is the information the check in clerk sees on his screen about requirements for Canadian citizens travelling to The Philippines:

/ 19APR14 / 1143 UTC

National Canada (CA) /Embarkation Philippines (PH)

Destination Philippines (PH)

Philippines (PH)

Passport required.

- Passports and/or passport replacing documents must be valid

for at least 6 months from date of arrival.

- Former nationals of the Philippines, their immediate family

members and immediate family members of nationals of the

Philippines must hold passports valid on arrival.

For details, click here

Passport Exemptions:

- Holders of Emergency or Temporary passports.

Visa required, except for A max. stay of 30 days for holders

of passports issued to nationals of Canada.

Visa required, except for A max. stay of one year for former

nationals of the Philippines (Balikbayans) holding proof of

former Filipino nationality. For details, click here

Visa required, except for A max. stay of one year for

accompanying spouses and children of nationals of the

Philippines who have been outside the Philippines for more

than one year or former nationals of the Philippimes

(Balikbayans) . For details, click here

Visa Issuance:

Visa required, except for Holders of passports issued by

Canada can obtain a visa on arrival, for a max. stay of 59

days.

Fee: USD 50.- (bank exchange slip is mandatory). Express fee:

PHP 500.-.

Minors:

- Foreign minors, aged up to/incl. 14 years, not residing in

the Philippines and traveling without parents require a

Waiver of Exclusion Ground (WEG)For details, click here

- Foreign minors traveling accompanied by parents

For details, click here

Additional Information:

- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to

cover their stay and documents required for their next

destination.

- Multiple extensions of 59 days, (with a maximum of 1 year),

available for those listed under visa exemptions.

For details, click here

- Length of stays are calculated by starting on the next day

after the day of arrival in the Philippines.

Warning:

- Visitors traveling for touristic or business purposes must

hold return/onward tickets:

- exempt are former nationals of the Philippines

(Balikbayans) and accompanying spouses and children.

Philippines (PH)

Vaccination against yellow fever required if arriving within 6

days after leaving or transiting countries with risk of yellow

fever transmission For details, click here.

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:

- Children under 1 year of age who are, however, subject to

isolation or surveillance when indicated.

- Passengers transiting countries with risk of yellow fever

transmission provided not leaving the transit areas.

Recommended:

- Malaria prophylaxis. Malaria risk exists throughout the year

in areas below 600 m, except in the 22 provinces of Aklan,

Albay, Benguet, Bilaran, Bohol, Camiguin, Capiz,

Catanduanes, Cavite, Cebu, Guimaras, Iloilo,

Northern/Southern Leyte, Marinduque, Masbate,

Eastern/Northern/Western Samar, Sequijor, Sorsogon, Surigao

Del Norte and metropolitan Manila. No risk considered to

exist in urban areas or in the plains. P. falciparum

resistant to chloroquine and sulfadoxine-pyrimethamine

reported. Human P. knowlesi infection reported in the

province of Palawan.

Recommended prevention in risk areas: IV.

CHECK TINEWS/N1 - TURKEY: PASSPORT VALIDITY REQUIREMENT

CHANGED, VISA ON ARRIVAL ABOLISHED

Timaticweb Version 1.3

19 April 2014

I have highlighted the relevant points in red.

It is the responsibility of the airline that all passengers meet the requirements to be allowed entry into the destination country. If a passenger is refused entry, the airline will be fined and has to take you back to the country you came from.

So the check in clerk was just doing his job.

Sophon

[Tomtomtom69]

I have heard that the Philippines is one of the stricter countries in the region for enforcing this requirement. I've never been there, but I've read about it a lot. While most airlines will allow you to fly from a regional city to Thailand on a one way ticket if you are a citizen of a rich country i.e. western Europe, North America, Australia, NZ, Singapore, HK, Japan, South Korea etc. even if a ticket out is required as per immigration law if you enter without a visa, this is not necessarily the case with the Philippines, which is stricter than Thailand.

[chuck1106]

Thank you Sophon..

I got the picture now..

Me and many of my friends hold a tourist visa for every two months , which will cost about $40.00 - $50.00 per month.

All right they need an Exist visa so I will always have to buy a return ticket ..

As I see it, there is No way to go around this..

Or maybe it is by marrying the woman ? heee !

A German friend had applied for a Permanent Visa. Just the Application costs $1,400.00. If you are denied this Visa ( by not qualifying ) the Application fee is lost..

Thanks again for your time Sophon

As per the above, if you are refused entry in the Philippines, the airline is responsible for the cost of your return.

So you need to produce either a valid visa, or proof of an exit flight within the 'Visa Exempt' period.

This is the information the check in clerk sees on his screen about requirements for Canadian citizens travelling to The Philippines:

/ 19APR14 / 1143 UTC



National Canada (CA) /Embarkation Philippines (PH)
Destination Philippines (PH)


Philippines (PH)



Passport required.
- Passports and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
for at least 6 months from date of arrival.
- Former nationals of the Philippines, their immediate family

members and immediate family members of nationals of the

Philippines must hold passports valid on arrival.
For details, click here
Passport Exemptions:

- Holders of Emergency or Temporary passports.

Visa required, except for A max. stay of 30 days for holders
of passports issued to nationals of Canada.

Visa required, except for A max. stay of one year for former
nationals of the Philippines (Balikbayans) holding proof of

former Filipino nationality. For details, click here
Visa required, except for A max. stay of one year for
accompanying spouses and children of nationals of the

Philippines who have been outside the Philippines for more
than one year or former nationals of the Philippimes

(Balikbayans) . For details, click here
Visa Issuance:
Visa required, except for Holders of passports issued by
Canada can obtain a visa on arrival, for a max. stay of 59
days.
Fee: USD 50.- (bank exchange slip is mandatory). Express fee:
PHP 500.-.
Minors:
- Foreign minors, aged up to/incl. 14 years, not residing in
the Philippines and traveling without parents require a
Waiver of Exclusion Ground (WEG)For details, click here
- Foreign minors traveling accompanied by parents
For details, click here
Additional Information:

- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
cover their stay and documents required for their next
destination.

- Multiple extensions of 59 days, (with a maximum of 1 year),

available for those listed under visa exemptions.

For details, click here
- Length of stays are calculated by starting on the next day

after the day of arrival in the Philippines.
Warning:
- Visitors traveling for touristic or business purposes must

hold return/onward tickets:

- exempt are former nationals of the Philippines

(Balikbayans) and accompanying spouses and children.





Philippines (PH)


Vaccination against yellow fever required if arriving within 6

days after leaving or transiting countries with risk of yellow

fever transmission For details, click here.

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:

- Children under 1 year of age who are, however, subject to
isolation or surveillance when indicated.

- Passengers transiting countries with risk of yellow fever

transmission provided not leaving the transit areas.
Recommended:
- Malaria prophylaxis. Malaria risk exists throughout the year
in areas below 600 m, except in the 22 provinces of Aklan,
Albay, Benguet, Bilaran, Bohol, Camiguin, Capiz,
Catanduanes, Cavite, Cebu, Guimaras, Iloilo,
Northern/Southern Leyte, Marinduque, Masbate,
Eastern/Northern/Western Samar, Sequijor, Sorsogon, Surigao
Del Norte and metropolitan Manila. No risk considered to
exist in urban areas or in the plains. P. falciparum
resistant to chloroquine and sulfadoxine-pyrimethamine
reported. Human P. knowlesi infection reported in the

province of Palawan.
Recommended prevention in risk areas: IV.


CHECK TINEWS/N1 - TURKEY: PASSPORT VALIDITY REQUIREMENT
CHANGED, VISA ON ARRIVAL ABOLISHED


Timaticweb Version 1.3
19 April 2014

I have highlighted the relevant points in red.

It is the responsibility of the airline that all passengers meet the requirements to be allowed entry into the destination country. If a passenger is refused entry, the airline will be fined and has to take you back to the country you came from.

So the check in clerk was just doing his job.

Sophon

[chuck1106]

He was correct because the Philippines require an a return or onward ticket for entry.

You can check the requirements listed on the IATA data base here: http://www.staralliance.com/en/services/visa-and-health/#

Thank you sir

[chuck1106]

It is often the case that airlines will not let you board flights to countries for which you don't have a long term visa, without a ticket out of the country.

This is often the case for example with flights to Thailand from any country. Often the airline will ask to see your exit ticket before they will let you board.

Thank you Partington

Take care