Please help me about Marriage visa.....Please........

[craigp]

Hello.

I'm currently in Thailand on an ED visa, and want to get married in a couple of months. I need help, I don't know what to do. I know I need 400,000B in a Thai bank. (That part is done) Are there any good visa agents in the Chiang Rai area? I can't find any on-line.

I sincerely hope some of you kind people can offer some advise.

Thanks in advance.

Craig,

[Lite Beer]

You don't need an agent.

It is pretty straight forward.

[ubonjoe]

Are you asking about getting married or getting an extension of stay after you get married?

You will need the 400k baht to be in a Thai bank account for 60 days. And then if married you can change the reason for your extension of stay from going to school to one based upon marriage.

You don't need an agent.

I suggest you contact the Chiang Rai immigration office to get a list of the documents required for the extension of stay based upon marriage.

[Lite Beer]

A Rough Guide.

(1) The alien has obtained a temporary visa (NON-IM)

(6) In case of marriage with a Thai lady, the husband who is an alien must have an average annual income of not less than 40,000 baht per month or a money deposit in a local Thai bank of not less than 400,000 baht for the past 2 months for expenses within a year.

Letter from your Thai Bank showing balance and up to date bank book.
OR.
If income from outside Thailand: Letter from your Embassy showing income. Now may also need proof of income as back up.
If Income from Thailand: Statements showing Income Tax receipts.
Marriage Certificate. (Kor Ror 3)
Marriage Registry entry. (Kor Ror 2)
Wife's Tabbien Baan and ID Card.
Your Passport.
Copies of everything.
Photos of you and your Wife in and around the house.
A map showing the way to your house.
Passport size photos and 1,900 Baht fee.
Take your Wife to be interviewed.
One or two witnesses may be required.
You will be given a 30 day under consideration stamp.
Go back in a month and get the remainder.

[thepool]

Wonder if the OP has an affidavit certifying his "freedom to marry" ?

[craigp]

Thanks for the replies....

Getting Married seems to be the easy part, it's the year extension I need help with. Marriage Certificate. (Kor Ror 3)

Marriage Registry entry. (Kor Ror 2) Where do I get these?

My house is privately rented, so I don't have the ownership book, is that going to be a problem?

When my wife is interviewed, what kind of questions will they ask her.?

And the copies of the documents have to be signed, but by who?

​How do I know if I need to take witnesses.

(Scary and confusing! )

[craigp]

Wonder if the OP has an affidavit certifying his "freedom to marry"

From what I can gather, I just download a template, fill it out, sign it and get it stamped at immigration, then translated in to Thai......Then use it for the visa application. I remember reading something like that.

[craigp]

Also, I don't know if I need to leave the country and get a different visa, or I can apply for the marriage extension using my ED visa. .... ...

[thepool]

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Wonder if the OP has an affidavit certifying his "freedom to marry"

From what I can gather, I just download a template, fill it out, sign it and get it stamped at immigration, then translated in to Thai......Then use it for the visa application. I remember reading something like that.

You have to obtain the affirmation from your Embassy , have it translated into Thai then certified by the MFA

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[thepool]

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Also, I don't know if I need to leave the country and get a different visa, or I can apply for the marriage extension using my ED visa. .... ...

If you are in Thailand legally either on the basis of a current valid visa or an "extension of stay" there is no need for a "different" visa.

Post 4 contains the detail.

[craigp]

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Wonder if the OP has an affidavit certifying his "freedom to marry"

From what I can gather, I just download a template, fill it out, sign it and get it stamped at immigration, then translated in to Thai......Then use it for the visa application. I remember reading something like that.

You have to obtain the affirmation from your Embassy , have it translated into Thai then certified my the MFA

ok, thanks, so I need to go to the British consulate in Chiang Mai and get the affirmation. I read that it can also be downloaded from the net. This is why it's so confusing,

[craigp]

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Also, I don't know if I need to leave the country and get a different visa, or I can apply for the marriage extension using my ED visa. .... ...

If you are in Thailand legally either on the basis of a current valid visa or an "extension of stay" there is no need for a "different" visa.

Post 4 contains the detail.

I briefly spoke to a visa agent, they told me I would need to leave Thailand, surrender the ED visa, come back with an O visa, then apply for a marriage extension.....This is why I'm worried. I can't find the information I need. Even agents say different things.

[ubonjoe]

Thanks for the replies....

Getting Married seems to be the easy part, it's the year extension I need help with. Marriage Certificate. (Kor Ror 3)

Marriage Registry entry. (Kor Ror 2) Where do I get these?

My house is privately rented, so I don't have the ownership book, is that going to be a problem?

When my wife is interviewed, what kind of questions will they ask her.?

And the copies of the documents have to be signed, but by who?

​How do I know if I need to take witnesses.

(Scary and confusing! )

When you register your marriage at the Amphoe you will the get both the Kor Ror's

The house book mentioned is your soon to be wife's You will need a rental agreement also for the house where you are living.

The interview is to fill in a statement. It is just basic info. You will need your parents names.

Your wife's documents are signed by her. Yours by you. Marriage certificate and Kor Ror 2 signed by both of you.

I don't think you will need the witnesses. That is why I suggested you go to immigration to find out their requirements.

You will not need a new visa. You can simply change the reason for your extension of stay as I wrote in my first post.

You have to get the affirmation of permit to marry signed by your embassy or consulate.

[ubonjoe]

Info about the affirmation here on embassy website: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/information-for-british-nationals-intending-to-marry-in-thailand

Agents often will give you incorrect information especially if it requires additional documents or steps that can make them more money.

[craigp]

Info about the affirmation here on embassy website: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/information-for-british-nationals-intending-to-marry-in-thailand

Agents often will give you incorrect information especially if it requires additional documents or steps that can make them more money.

Excellent advise ubonjoe, Thank you so much. It's becoming more clear now.

The house book, soon to be wifes? Can you explain? I'm going to move house before all this is done. (A new rental agreement, contract) I'll have it put in her name. But I didn't think she got any book. I thought that's just for house ownership. The agent also told me the immigration officers come to the house at some point to do.....I don't know. Is there any truth in that?

[ubonjoe]

Info about the affirmation here on embassy website: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/information-for-british-nationals-intending-to-marry-in-thailand

Agents often will give you incorrect information especially if it requires additional documents or steps that can make them more money.

Excellent advise ubonjoe, Thank you so much. It's becoming more clear now.

The house book, soon to be wifes? Can you explain? I'm going to move house before all this is done. (A new rental agreement, contract) I'll have it put in her name. But I didn't think she got any book. I thought that's just for house ownership. The agent also told me the immigration officers come to the house at some point to do.....I don't know. Is there any truth in that?

The house book is for where she is registered. It could be for her parents house, other family members or a friends house. Every Thai is required to be listed in one. You will still need a copy of the lease agreement even though it will be in her name.

They will do a home visit during a 30 day under consideration period you will have after you apply for the extension. Some offices ask for witnesses instead of doing the house visit.

[craigp]

Info about the affirmation here on embassy website: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/information-for-british-nationals-intending-to-marry-in-thailand

Agents often will give you incorrect information especially if it requires additional documents or steps that can make them more money.

Excellent advise ubonjoe, Thank you so much. It's becoming more clear now.

The house book, soon to be wifes? Can you explain? I'm going to move house before all this is done. (A new rental agreement, contract) I'll have it put in her name. But I didn't think she got any book. I thought that's just for house ownership. The agent also told me the immigration officers come to the house at some point to do.....I don't know. Is there any truth in that?

The house book is for where she is registered. It could be for her parents house, other family members or a friends house. Every Thai is required to be listed in one. You will still need a copy of the lease agreement even though it will be in her name.

They will do a home visit during a 30 day under consideration period you will have after you apply for the extension. Some offices ask for witnesses instead of doing the house visit.

Got it, so even though we won't be living at her parents, we can use that book, along with the rental agreement with the house we live in, great! Thanks again....

[Lite Beer]

Yes.

Your Wife will be in a Tabbien Baan. Probably her parents.

Kor Ror 3 is the Marriage Certificate.

Kor Ror 2 is the registry entry.

You will get these when you get married.

They will have an informal chat with your Wife. All pretty low key.

Just to satisfy themselves that you do really know each other and live together.

It all looks a bit daunting but is really quite straight forward .

[craigp]

Thanks for all the help and advise........hmmm....what is the 'Kor Ror'?

[MJCM]

Kor Ror 3 is a shiny piece of paper what you get when you got married and Kor Ror 2 is an Amphur document with the details/names/dates signed when you married and thus recorded on your Thai Marriage certificate.

You can get a current print out (Kor Ror 2) for around 20 THB from the Amphur. (only of course AFTER you got married)

Example Kor Ror 3: http://stuckinthailand.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Kor-ror-3.jpg

[ubonjoe]

Kor Ror is a designation used for a group of forms used by the registrars office.

[lopburi3]

I would advise double check with that immigration office as have indeed seen reports of ED visa entry not being accepted for extensions of stay for other than education from some posters (but have no way to know for sure if actually not accepted or they took the word of someone that it would not be). I suspect your new wife should also be prepared to explain how you will be living without employment if you are below retirement age. It might or might not be asked.

[craigp]

I would advise double check with that immigration office as have indeed seen reports of ED visa entry not being accepted for extensions of stay for other than education from some posters (but have no way to know for sure if actually not accepted or they took the word of someone that it would not be). I suspect your new wife should also be prepared to explain how you will be living without employment if you are below retirement age. It might or might not be a

Just because I have enough money in the bank for the yearly extension(s) 4,00,000in a Thai bank and reserves in the UK.

Now I'm confused again. ED visa to marriage extension....Is it possible......?

[ubonjoe]

Yes it is possible. All that is required to do the extension is a non immigrant visa entry.which is what you have from your ED visa that you have extended already.

[craigp]

Here is one of many quotes I've received, opinions are welcomed. (This one is mediocre ) ............I can't see how these costs are justified based on the helpful advise I was given today.

Change visa 7,500

Extension of stay (Non-O Thai Wife) 7,500

Hear the Decision Collection of visa 1,500

Traveling Fee for visa extension (2Trips@500) 1,000

Sub-Total for Professional Fees 17,500

7% VAT 1,225

Government Fee (90 days visa) 2,000

Government Fee (One year visa) 1,900

Sub-Total for Government Fees 3,900

Grand Total 22,625

[thepool]

As they say - up to you !

That is" light" as they forgot to include the "marriage costs" !

All the information needed is easily available to those who care to look

[MJCM]

As said by "thepool" and others, you can easily do it yourself and you will save yourself some money which you can afterwards spend on your bride

Sent from my iPad so Please excuse any typos

[Eddy B]

Bloody hell!! They are trying to rape you with this price! If I remember correctly I got married just over two years ago and everything including embassy, translation, registering in BKK, traveling to BKK and back, registering at the local Amphur office with certs and the catered wedding party ( family business ) and going to get the visa only cost me 30,000 baht roughly. Don't be a mug as the agents will fleece you if you are not willing to do a little research and some leg work. I hope it works out for you!

[craigp]

Bloody hell!! They are trying to rape you with this price! If I remember correctly I got married just over two years ago and everything including embassy, translation, registering in BKK, traveling to BKK and back, registering at the local Amphur office with certs and the catered wedding party ( family business ) and going to get the visa only cost me 30,000 baht roughly. Don't be a mug as the agents will fleece you if you are not willing to do a little research and some leg work. I hope it works out for you!

Yes. Thanks Eddy. That is just one of the quotes. The cheapest was 10,000, the most expensive was 30,000. I've got time on my side, so I'll try and do it on my own. I know I'm British, but I didn't think I would have to pay UK prices for a little legal work.

It's still a little worrying, as I don't know where to start. I've got to report on the 5/5 in Chiang Mai, so I'll go to the British consulate and try and get some advise and get the 'free to marry' thing done first.

I'm still not clear if I can change the ED visa to O marriage extension. Some say I can, others say I can't. If I can't what country and where to go to change the visa. ? I hope I don't have to go to Vientiane again....

[ubonjoe]

I think the agents are the only ones that told you that you cannot change the reason for your extension.

You will not get any advise from the UK consulate about extensions of stay or visas. That is not their job.