Yingluck says she under pressure over case of Thawil's transfer

[godden]

there i was standing at the court, brother sent around a note,here's the very note, this is what he wrote, sorry can't come today my hair dresser won't let me.

[Stoneboy]

She might be planning to join her brother in Dubai to destress.

[Baerboxer]

I'm sure her brother will sympathise. He felt under pressure when he knew he was bang to rights and he didn't show up either.

Do you know anything about the Rachadaphisek Land Purchase conviction, anything?

Yes.

The facts of the case and legal ruling have been well written on.

Even the most red tinted, Thaksin adoring, apologists must agree that at the very, very least, Thaksin acted with poor judgement. Most unbiased readers would probably be less charitable and err nearer to the courts ruling based purely on the evidence.

Same as the illegal issuing of Thaksin's new Thai passport, by his cousin, who was part of his sister's cabinet. She has refused over and over again to answer for that. Now it seems to have just died a quiet death. The point is Yingluck and her administration broke the law, knowingly and willingly, and couldn't give a toss. Anymore than Thaksin and his then missus could. They simply believe that they and their extended family are above the law and can do whatever they please.

The really don't like it, and neither do their supporters, when they are shown to have broken the law and attempts are made to hold them accountable.

[monkeycountry]

Stress.

Welcome to the real world, PM.

Ask the farmers about the stress of not having been paid for months on how to deal with stress.

Hopefully though, you won't follow the path of many of them who used suicide as a coping mechanism.

blood is on Suthep and his followers hands who raided the funding bank with withdrawals, blocked funding via their proxy the EC and other dirty tricks, actually it backfired, the farmers know it was a dirty politics and they know the groups who are responsible for blocking their payments. best of a bad bunch on this topic maybe but they certain ally won't be voting for two faced Suthep and co. next election thats for sure.

That is indeed for sure, as Suthep is not a candidate :-D

[semester]

suddenly one day Thaksin will pop up in Chiang Mai.

OMG.

People are waiting for him to pop up.

[looping]

I feel sorry for Yingy. Didn't anyone tell her that the job of PM is more than being a silent partner. Possibly some work involved and stress related too. Poor thing.

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[marcusd]

I'd be feeling stressed too, if I was elected as PM and got removed by a judicial coup.

Now why would a judicial system do that? maybe because there is some wrong doing? Is that not why you have a judicial system?

Why was it wrong to transfer this man? He was appointed by the PM. SHe should be able to transfer him too...

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I am not the purveyor of Thai laws. So I really don't give a damn,dear watson

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[AleG]

Because it was against the laws of Thailand. Believe it or not (Yingluck does not) that even the PM and the Shin Dynasty are not above the law and can be held accountable

what are the laws that says she cannot transfer a civil servant that was appointed? Are people appointed for life? Can they never lose their jobs if the PM feels they are not a good fit? What a strange place.

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This laws:

The senators alleged that Yingluck violated Articles 180, 182 (7), 266 (2), 266 (3) and 268 of the charter by transferring Thawil to an inactive post so that her former brother-in-law, Pol General Priewpan Damapong, could win the post of National Police chief.

Note that she didn't just transfer Thawil, she did so to in turn install Priewpan Damapong as police chief. In case the name doesn't ring a bell with you he is the brother of Thaksin's ex. So she, well, no she because she is not the one making decisions anyway, removed a public official to place an extended family memeber as Chief of Police, that's called nepotism.

This is the actual Administrative Court veredict said:

"The transfer was not in accordance with the Civil Service Act, which stipulates that official transfers should be effected to help achieve the state's missions and must take into account fairness. Thawil's transfer was carried out without justified reasons and legitimacy," the verdict read.

Now a question to you, do you think it is appropriate for a Prime Ministert to remove public officials for no other reason than making way for a family member?

[anteater]

I'd be feeling stressed too, if I was elected as PM and got removed by a judicial coup.

She broke the law. Is that too much to comprehend Moonao? What makes you think this is a judicial coup?

Two points:

It's not evident that Yingluck broke the law. Surely it's up to a boss who he/she employs? In this case, why shouldn't the PM decide she wants to get rid of this guy and employ someone who she gets on with? So it's a relative! Big deal! She was elected, so it's up to her and colleagues in the government as to how she runs the show. If the electorate don't like it, or if they think it's a scandal, then vote her out at the next election. Look at history in other countries: if there is a political scandal the implicated party often gets crucified at the next election. Or sometimes the party bosses just replace the candidate and so the party manages to stay in power (Harding to Coolidge in the 20s is the classic example of that).

Your other point. Obviously here and now in Thailand it's a judicial coup! Virtually all the international press recognises that the Thai establishment is opposed to Peua Thai. It's only a few retired falang in Bangkok and a bunch of right-wing falangist Thais who don't accept the obvious. Explain this: If the courts are so even-handed, how come a PM gets kicked out just because he was getting a few Baht for presenting a cooking show, yet a while later a crony called Suthep can go around Bangkok shutting down government ministries and blocking people from voting - with no restriction whatsoever on his outrageous activities !?

Edited April 25, 2014 by anteater

[AleG]

I'd be feeling stressed too, if I was elected as PM and got removed by a judicial coup.

I'd be stressed if I was PM and my brother/controller was a criminal fugitive.

I'd be stressed if I was PM and my brother/controller was a criminal fugitive...

... that was making illegal decision on my name for which I'd be accountable for.

Thaksin puts her own sister through this s**t, imagine what he would be capable of doing to other people.

[Publicus]

If everything illegal is or can also be unconstitutional there will be a failed state and country, as the world and Thais themselves are experiencing now.

If a PM and/or an entire government can be removed for transferring one single government employee, the state and the country may well deserve to fail. Nothing good came of the judges dismissing Samak from the position of PM and it's a guaranteed certainty nothing good will come of this imminent ruling. (Yeah, Samak took pocket change for being a television visiting cook, so a stiff fine and a national apology directly to the people would have been fine, not removal as PM.)

Hanging judges don't compromise.

If a ruling elite wants to shoot itself in the head, then that would be their decision, mad as it is.

The Bangkok ammart drew an empty cartridge chamber doing Thaksin in 2006, drew another empty chamber with Samak in 2008, drew another empty chamber with Somchai in 2008 again. That leaves the ammart with a one in three chance now and I think someone slipped in another round or two while no one was looking to completely eliminate the ammart's present chances (perhaps Jatuporn).

(To those who keep banging at people with their bottle of wine, the Australian state premier knew he had to resign. I seriously doubt the OZ PM would resign or be expected to resign as the consequences are much greater in respect of a PM and the whole of the country than in the case of a state premier getting snagged in such a thing as accepting a bottle of wine as a gift.)

[marcusd]

I want to see yinny re elected, thaksin returned, anarchy, chaos, baht tumble and me get richer.

You never have enough

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[marcusd]

We are all sup positioning an outcome that has not yet occurred.

An hour is a long time in politics

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[Wombat6]

I'd be feeling stressed too, if I was elected as PM and got removed by a judicial coup.

You have no need to worry as you would never be elected for anything, and your comment regarding a Judicial Coup is pretty tiresome red shirt rants. Read the facts of the case ....everyone besides you are aware that Thaksin via Yingluck removed the guy from his job so that a Shin relative could move into it..

[wolfmanjack]

I'd be feeling stressed too, if I was elected as PM and got removed by a judicial coup.

I wouldn't stress out about it at all. i would just make a deal to quit politics and retire with all the millions in the bank in exchange for dropping all charges.

[monkeycountry]

I'd be feeling stressed too, if I was elected as PM and got removed by a judicial coup.

She broke the law. Is that too much to comprehend Moonao? What makes you think this is a judicial coup?

Two points:

It's not evident that Yingluck broke the law. Surely it's up to a boss who he/she employs? In this case, why shouldn't the PM decide she wants to get rid of this guy and employ someone who she gets on with? So it's a relative! Big deal! She was elected, so it's up to her and colleagues in the government as to how she runs the show. If the electorate don't like it, or if they think it's a scandal, then vote her out at the next election. Look at history in other countries: if there is a political scandal the implicated party often gets crucified at the next election. Or sometimes the party bosses just replace the candidate and so the party manages to stay in power (Harding to Coolidge in the 20s is the classic example of that).

Your other point. Obviously here and now in Thailand it's a judicial coup! Virtually all the international press recognises that the Thai establishment is opposed to Peua Thai. It's only a few retired falang in Bangkok and a bunch of right-wing falangist Thais who don't accept the obvious. Explain this: If the courts are so even-handed, how come a PM gets kicked out just because he was getting a few Baht for presenting a cooking show, yet a while later a crony called Suthep can go around Bangkok shutting down government ministries and blocking people from voting - with no restriction whatsoever on his outrageous activities !?

It would be nice if you (and moonao) could discuss rationally.

You are comparing the political banning a PM (Samak) with the crimes committed by someone who is neither a PM nor an MP (Suthep). You might as well ask why Samak was banned and the ferrari killer is not yet in jail? Apples and oranges!

Anyway, if it makes you happy, I do believe there is a warrant out for Sutheps arrest, but since leaders are now being charged with murder when they order the army and police to uphold the law (2010), noone understandably wants to give such orders anymore, hence the law cannot be upheld and Suthep cannot be arrested.

[outsider]

Poo... Sighs... 'Dumb & Dumber' looks like a highly-intellectual drama in comparison.

[rametindallas]

[This shows PM Yingluck, who recently was confined to a wheelchair after a minor injury, being pushed Banharn Silapa-acha, defacto head of a powerful political faction represented by the Chartthaipattana Party.
Banharn is know as "the eel" for his ability to quickly switch political sides, as when he publicly vowed before Bangkok's Emerald Buddha never to again join with a Thaksin-controlled party--right before joining just such a coalition. He is also know as "Mr. ATM" for his use of money to create and maintain alliances.
Banharn is significant now because the ultimate goal of the last six months of protest is to create the impression Thaksin will never be allowed to return to political power and thus case political fractures that would cause the Yingluck-led government to disintegrate. Getting Banharn and his political block to defect is a key part of this plan. Banharn, of course, knows this and has used this leverage to force the Pheu Thai Party to be particularly solicitous to him and his party.
The cartoon refers to Yingluck's visit to Suphanburi Province, Banharn's turf. Remaining in her wheelchair, Banharn pushed her around to tour his hometown and main political base.
"Songkran Goddess" refers to illustrated images used every year to portray a heavenly goddess who represents the spirit of Songkran.]

[Robby nz]

It would seem that she was to busy to turn up and present her defense in person :

Posted Today, 17:13

Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra's defence statement has been submitted to the Constitution Court on her behalf by Pichit Chuenban. /Bangkok Post

[ikke]

I'd be feeling stressed too, if I was elected as PM and got removed by a judicial coup.

You needn't stress......nobody would elect you as a PM....

Right, same as nobody will ever elect a Dem as PM.

[LomSak27]

She should be worried.Sutheps tactics have not worked, now the courts kick in.

Go Team Yellow!

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