PDRC co-leader Sakoltee out on bail after arrest at airport

[MikeOboe57]

And another case that will be finalised in 2025!!....maybe...)

Fast tracked ?

Wonder if the judge granting bail for insurrection, occupation of gov't offices, attacking media stations, etc. etc. has the same last name of Phattiyakul? Nice to keep the relatives out of jail and definitely do not deny bail to what would be known as a "terrorist" in any other country. There is a pattern here been noticing that each and every PDRC leader who has been captured has been released on bail. That is 100% of them for some reason, and if you and I had done 1% of what they had done during these so-called peaceful protests with PDRC guards carrying weapons and shooting now at a military officer wounding him after beating him to a pulp, we would be hanged from the highest tree in 5 mins. This is the Thai Rule of Law!!!

Maybe, just maybe, dear Stan, if the Dubai Sponsored Investigator Tharit and Chalerm´s CAPO had a few more brain cells and were less lazy and incompetent this evil anti-government protestor would have been caught leaving the country. Then maybe the bail request would have been denied.

But for the uneducated red masses it has to be a family member presiding the court and granting bail. You shouldn´t blindly trust Robert Amsterdam´s hand-outs. That guy is a lazy sod and covers his appalling ignorance with posh lawyer talk.

[anteater]

So what did arresting him actually achieve? What's the point?

The point?

Duhh, gee Batman I dunno. Possibly something to with him breaking the law?

[Tywais]

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[issanaus]

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You are the one that is saying the courts are corrupt - from what I have seen the courts are apply the law (which I admit appears inefficient) if the laws are wrong then it should be the role of parliament to fix them. Remember who the government has been for the last 3 years

For one to think that the history of Thailand and the role of the judiciary in Thai politics started three years ago is absurd. When has any political party/group in Thailand presented a meaningful platform for 'reform'? It's all rhetoric, smoke and mirrors, with a heaping dose of bullsh*t. But I know that will not keep you for blaming the PTP for all problems in Thailand. Just too convenient to finger-point than to be analytical and see the faults on both sides.

I would total agree that the fault lies with both camps, what I am saying is that PTP happens to be the party would has last has had a chance. There is a common thread (with both camps) for always pointing the finger back and failing to address any issues in the present. When Thailand eventually gets a government that is more focused on acting rather than blaming then progress can be made.

[anteater]

So the four main charges seem to be:

Trespassing at and surrounding government offices.

Joining a political gathering of more than 10 people in violation of the emergency decree.

Inciting people to violate the law.

Wanting to unlawfully overthrow the government of prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra (i.e. treason).

Apparently all the charges were flatly denied by Sakoltee.

On the face of it, this denial seems extraordinary, given that there are probably many witnesses and much video footage that would prove Sakoltee did at least do *some* of the actions that are mentioned. e.g. there would be evidence that he attended a political meeting during the decree period. So perhaps his defense will not be based on the "facts" of his actions, but on some "excuse" for his actions – perhaps he will cite some alleged "right to oppose illegitimate authority", because he considers that the Yingluck government is "illegitimate" in some way.

However, I would think that that such an "opposing illegitimacy" defense would be a rather problematic one, on some of the counts anyway. Take the last count. YS was quite evidently the legitimately elected PM or caretaker PM (both then and now), and this was accepted by all. So, given that the PDRC evidently seeks her removal, how can Sakoltee then deny that he tried to "unlawfully overthrow" the government?

I would also think that attempting to block people from voting (which I assume is the third charge, "Inciting people to violate the law ") is a really serious charge in any country, given that the act of voting is at the core of a citizen's political rights.

So, based on the prima facie evidence, Sakoltee should get the book thrown at him. But will he?

Almost certainly not!

Given what we know of previous cases, I cannot see this fellow ever experiencing the inside of a prison! I would actually bet on it, if I were a betting man! I doubt that he will ever be punished for the (alleged) offenses that he has committed. And ditto all his fellow rich-kid supporters of the PDRC.

In Bangkok, we must remember that "the Ferrari gang rules"! These guys don't do their time in jail, they do their time in Singapore.

We all know who goes to prison in Thailand. It is the poor and underprivileged. Not the ammart.

The ammart rule! And I mean that literally.

[WoopyDoo]

So the four main charges seem to be:

Trespassing at and surrounding government offices.

Joining a political gathering of more than 10 people in violation of the emergency decree.

Inciting people to violate the law.

Wanting to unlawfully overthrow the government of prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra (i.e. treason).

Apparently all the charges were flatly denied by Sakoltee.

On the face of it, this denial seems extraordinary, given that there are probably many witnesses and much video footage that would prove Sakoltee did at least do *some* of the actions that are mentioned. e.g. there would be evidence that he attended a political meeting during the decree period. So perhaps his defense will not be based on the "facts" of his actions, but on some "excuse" for his actions – perhaps he will cite some alleged "right to oppose illegitimate authority", because he considers that the Yingluck government is "illegitimate" in some way.

However, I would think that that such an "opposing illegitimacy" defense would be a rather problematic one, on some of the counts anyway. Take the last count. YS was quite evidently the legitimately elected PM or caretaker PM (both then and now), and this was accepted by all. So, given that the PDRC evidently seeks her removal, how can Sakoltee then deny that he tried to "unlawfully overthrow" the government?

I would also think that attempting to block people from voting (which I assume is the third charge, "Inciting people to violate the law ") is a really serious charge in any country, given that the act of voting is at the core of a citizen's political rights.

So, based on the prima facie evidence, Sakoltee should get the book thrown at him. But will he?

Almost certainly not!

Given what we know of previous cases, I cannot see this fellow ever experiencing the inside of a prison! I would actually bet on it, if I were a betting man! I doubt that he will ever be punished for the (alleged) offenses that he has committed. And ditto all his fellow rich-kid supporters of the PDRC.

In Bangkok, we must remember that "the Ferrari gang rules"! These guys don't do their time in jail, they do their time in Singapore.

We all know who goes to prison in Thailand. It is the poor and underprivileged. Not the ammart.

The ammart rule! And I mean that literally.

How about we pull out Jattuporn and Nattawut's CVs and see what they have been up to not only before their terrorism charges, but also since being granted bail???

Naaaaa... Don't think you would like that would you?

So you criticize the courts for applying double standards against the government and your empty headed Yingluck.... Then you complain that the courts are NOT applying double standards when it comes to this case....

Make up your mind.... are you an opponent of judicial double standards or a supporter of judicial double standards..... you can't be both.

Unless of course you are just the same as all the other red shirt hypocritical crackpots that troll around TVF.

Only Thaksin and the PTP can bring idiots like you lot crawling out from under their slimy stones.

[harada]

I wonder how those Thais who have lost their livelihoods because of this latest fiasco think of Sakoltee's bit of R+R in the States to catch up on a bit of NASCAR.

Something like rice farmers who are losing their farms cause they have not been paid while Yingluck is on holiday .... and too busy to do all sorts of things.

Yes I agree, another good example of the elites attitude towards hard working Thais.

[Mentors]

Did he paid the airplane ticket to the US with money the naive whistle Mob have spend to Suthep?

[billd766]

Did he paid the airplane ticket to the US with money the naive whistle Mob have spend to Suthep?

Why don't you ring him up and ask him instead of making a stupid statement like that?

Then come back and tell us all the truth, rather than the truth you want it to be.

[Acharn]

So what did arresting him actually achieve? What's the point?

Search me. Maybe just to let him know that his side hasn't won yet? That he isn't yet safe from reprisal if his side loses? Just to cause him a little inconvenience because they know his side is going to win and this may be their only chance? Some poor schlub of an immigration officer getting orders and following the book? We'll probably never know.

[Bluespunk]

Did he paid the airplane ticket to the US with money the naive whistle Mob have spend to Suthep?

Nope. I believe that is a PT prerogative to take from the naive under false pretences or at least unfulfillable promises.