Suthep says no compromise with Thaksin

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Suthep says no compromise with Thaksin



BANGKOK: -- Anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban rejected all attempts now by certain people for talks to resolve the political impasse and enter election.

He declared clearly that there would be no talk whatsoever with Thaksin Shinawatra and his sister Yingluck Shinawatra unless they are overthrown and out of the country.

Suthep’s made known his stance Monday night after Ms Yingluck voicing hope that opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva could best convince the protest leader to sit down for talk and enter election to end the deadlock.

But the leader of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) said he rejected all these attempts and any proposal for a national government, except the people ‘s government.

As the PDRC protest against the Thaksin regime has entered 180 days
Monday, Suthep said he knew the person like Thaksin very well.

He said Thaksin is the sort of person who never bows his head to anyone.

Suthep said the people would not let him to continue in power to plunder the country, adding that the fight against the regime is close to an end now.

He said that on April 30 at 7 p.m.he would announce the D-Day to end the Thaksin regime forever.

It would be a one day purge and the country could restart for the new life, he added.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-says-compromise-thaksin/


-- Thai PBS 2014-04-29

[PREM-R]

While Abhisit is part of the problem and not the solution, by refusing to discuss any way forward, Suthep is just further and further isolating himself from a resolution to Thailand's problems and from reality.

[15Peter20]

If hating Thaksin means liking Suthep, I'm being persuaded to hate Thaksin a little less these days.

[Snig27]

"It would be a one day purge and the country could restart for the new life, he added."

Suthep was already quite mad before this all started but he seems to be quickly heading towards a padded cell.

[phutoie2]

I wonder what is going to happen tomorrow then.

[Bluespunk]

"Suthep’s made known his stance Monday night after Ms Yingluck voicing hope that opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva could best convince the protest leader to sit down for talk and enter election to end the deadlock."

Suthep doesn't want any solution except his own. The Dems are looking for a solution to the current mess, that is not the one he wants. Still that's not surprising, two separate groups with very different philosophies.

A lot in PT feel the same way, but at least yingluck has the sense to see a solution is needed or this deadlock will never end without more bloodshed. No one wants that, well no one with more than two functioning brain cells at least.

[h90]

If hating Thaksin means liking Suthep, I'm being persuaded to hate Thaksin a little less these days.

No it doesn't mean you must like Suthep.

There are hundreds of different groups and a huge amount of people that don't belong to any group that want to get rid of Thaksin. Suthep is just the leader who is holding them all together. Because if these groups would stand independent the government would just crash one after the other group.

As soon as Thailand get rid of Thaksin Suthep won't be important at all anymore and he promised to leave politics. Also the everyone of his reform government must leave politics for 5 years after the reforms.

[harada]

Hello, hello earth to Suthep.

[Melyn]

I'm trying to work out if Abhisit and Suthep are in cahoots on this or have truly diverged philosophically.

More importantly, would Suthep seek to disrupt elections if the Democrats stood? Would his following diminish under such circumstances?

Has Suthep served his purpose?

Can Abhisit get an acceptable set of political cum electoral reforms agreed upon pre-election?

Has a deal been struck that somehow permits Yingluck to be absolved of charges if she agrees to reform and steps down?

Is there horse trading going on behind closed doors?

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[Costas2008]

They are all politicians, looking after themselves only and not after the good of the country they represent.

At least, Sutherp, vowed that he will quit politics when his goals are achieved.

At the moment nothing has been achieved, because of the stubbornness of Thaksin and Yingluck.

Everyone else is letting him down for their own personal benefits.

I, admire this man, for his believes and strength of character.

[Rob8891]

Best guess is that YES, horse-trading is indeed going on behind closed doors. In the real world, that is how things are done (sometimes regrettably). In this case, with so many hot-heads on BOTH sides of the divide, there would be little point in 100% open dialogue. Can anyone really envisage a useful dialogue with Jatuporn, Suthep and Chalerm sitting at the table..(YL, of course, would be busy elsewhere)...

IMO once they have thrashed out some sort of a deal out of the public gaze, there will be "open talks" and to promote the product of their efforts.

[h90]

"Suthep’s made known his stance Monday night after Ms Yingluck voicing hope that opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva could best convince the protest leader to sit down for talk and enter election to end the deadlock."

Suthep doesn't want any solution except his own. The Dems are looking for a solution to the current mess, that is not the one he wants. Still that's not surprising, two separate groups with very different philosophies.

A lot in PT feel the same way, but at least yingluck has the sense to see a solution is needed or this deadlock will never end without more bloodshed. No one wants that, well no one with more than two functioning brain cells at least.

And he is right.....Some compromise solution with Thaksin will result in either the same again in 2 years. Or the next Thaksin will come in no later than 4 years.

Better make a good solution now, than some foul compromise and having the same kind of problems for the next 20 years.

Suthep might not be the nicest guy but he right in this case.

[chainarong]

One is not surprised by this , the start of the protest movement was because of Thaskin , for Khun Suthep to lower he's colours to talks with Thaskin I can understand Khun Suthep also contends that CTPM Yingluck is in direct contact with Thaskin , so therefore lies the impasse , you are dealing indirectly with Thaskin , so the protest will continue , no compromise, no moving forward, to request that Yingluck leave the country is not an option and should not be entertained, however I can see a need for all family members to leave politics, as in the future I can see the same happening as we are seeing now, no lessons learnt from history, because of greed and power.

[virtualtraveller]

Suthep has lost his marbles, but he's absolutely spot on about Thaksin, so it's good we have someone playing this role. He will become increasingly isolated.

[bkkgooner]

A one day purge this bloke sounds more insane by the day and has no interest in moving Thailand forward as a nation

[animatic]

We have two competing sets of Good Cop / Bad Cop.

But bottom line; Who is running the worse pair over all.

Neither of the bad cops is a good choice,

but the middle ground needs to shift to the better not the worse.

Right now the extremes are trying to force the center their way permanently.

[billd766]

I think that Suthep is painting himself into a corner where he, personally will become less relevant but the PDRC movement as a whole will carry on without him.

I also think that if Thaksin and Suthep swapped sides it would take some time for people to notice.

Both of them believe in what they have to say and that each of them truly believe that they alone are the only soltion to Thailands problems, and that scares me because neither of of them are.

[PatOngo]

He said that on April 30 at 7 p.m.he would announce the D-Day to end the Thaksin regime forever.

Oh good....the final push is coming.

[Mentors]

He has no other choice. He have lost so much 'face' already. He fall in his own trap.

[winstonc]

theres a much bigger picture than what were reading on here..watch it unfold ....the reds are unable to stop this happening...

[Bkungbank]

Cannot over thrown an elected government by mob, it's a chilling fact for foreign investors to consider with as a government was bring down on street demonstration. I agreed with change certain policy which outdated in systems but Suthep have no bargain rights as he still holding small majority of the country. Thaksin hurt the country by corruption and Suthep hurting too by stopping to form a government, a country cannot have no government.

[h90]

Cannot over thrown an elected government by mob, it's a chilling fact for foreign investors to consider with as a government was bring down on street demonstration. I agreed with change certain policy which outdated in systems but Suthep have no bargain rights as he still holding small majority of the country. Thaksin hurt the country by corruption and Suthep hurting too by stopping to form a government, a country cannot have no government.

Why you can't overthrow a government by a mob? Learn history....Recently they have done it in Ukraine.....

Actually over thrown by mob is the only chance to get different people.

[american12bthai]

all of yall need to read a history book. after reading all the comments none of you realise that each persons be havior is a result of anothers actions. and the end result is the same.

the color red is a very costly color to manufacture in so much that it has never been used to represent the poor. Having common people wear red is/was an insult to the chinese emperor during the last dynasty. . it was not a lucky color as modern chines are made to believe but it was used to mock the emperor and his royal family. For the Emporer was theon ly one allowed to wear it. In the book "dragon syndicate" (starting roughly about pg 100) you can read exactly what thaksin is doing. page for page. and you can also read what the government response was... and what the results were... odd that the book is a historical book about the chinese triads. printed 10+ years ago. BUT IT READS LIKE A NEWS PAPER.

A evil man needs alot of money to bribe his enemies to not kill him.... is what i learned about bad guys and history.

evil men do not win they may get away with it... but they dont win. . and often the worst people become the heroes. so, in 10-20 years do you think anyone will care about Suthep? no. They will only know how evil the Thaksin Shitonwhat clan is. let them dig their graves and you can watch from your window at home. patience.

[h90]

I'm trying to work out if Abhisit and Suthep are in cahoots on this or have truly diverged philosophically.

More importantly, would Suthep seek to disrupt elections if the Democrats stood? Would his following diminish under such circumstances?

Has Suthep served his purpose?

Can Abhisit get an acceptable set of political cum electoral reforms agreed upon pre-election?

Has a deal been struck that somehow permits Yingluck to be absolved of charges if she agrees to reform and steps down?

Is there horse trading going on behind closed doors?

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After thinking about it:

With the Democrats at the elections, Suthep won't be able to disrupt the elections. On the other hand many Democrats would boycott the elections which would result in a terrible defeat and a win of the PTP.

I think there is no legal framework that would allow Yingluck and Abhisit doing reforms before the elections. Actually it would be a coup by the PTP to do it.

So without Suthep Abhisit has nothing to offer, but maybe he must say something nice to safe his party from getting legal problems?

[TimCM]

Like Neo and agent Smith, they are two sides of the same coin. Can't wait for Suthep v Thaksin with the hope they both get a beating.

[marko kok prong]

I am confused, a one day purge but starting at 7PM,is this a typo,as surely if they start at 7pm it will be an evening do?

[The stuttering parrot]

Well here goes this looney again and I can't believe even his most ardent supporters still back him!

Hers a guy demanding that a thai citizen be thrown out of the country!

If it starts there where's it going to stop?

That's why we have courts ! What he is professing is justice sutep style!

They should rope this guy in get his golden whistle and stick it where the sun don't shine!

[webfact]

D-Day to oust government to be announced tomorrow night



BANGKOK: -- The People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) will announce the date for the launch of the final battle to oust the government at the Lumpini park tomorrow at 7 pm.

During a visit to the Port Authority of Thailand this morning, PDRC secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban asked port workers to join the “final battle” saying “this is a once in a life time opportunity to pay back the mother land”.

He urged supporters to get prepared “to prepare their shoes, socks and food as the battle will take several days; prepare tents because you have to eat on the floor and sleep on the streets”.

The visit to PAT is part of the PDRC’s campaign to woo support from state enterprise workers for its final battle against the government. Earlier, Suthep and his followers visited Electricity Generation Authority of Thailand, Provincial Waterworks Authority, Metropolitan Electricity Authority and Thai Airways International.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/d-day-oust-government-announced-tomorrow-night/


-- Thai PBS 2014-04-29

[Costas2008]

Really, hope and wish, you succeed, Sutherp, with your quest.

You and the Thai people deserve it.

[ezzra]

Of course no compromise, have you ever seen a mongos cozying up to a cobra?....