After snubbing poll, Abhisit not qualified to be mediator

[Fat Haggis]

Bluenose mate some people have been eating too many lemons since Feb when Yingluck didn't crumble and they are under an illusion it was all in the plan!! Bullshit it was , she has fooled everyone who thought she would crumble in days !!

I neither like nor dislike her or her party or administration but they've ridden out the political storm so far much to many TVF posters here's dismay and I think that's the funny part as the most animated and articulated more than likely don't have a vote nor a say in the first place!

Anyone who states that this was the plan all along is talking with a mouth full of faeces as NOBODY here anticipated her still being caretaker PM on the 30 April 2014, herself included!!

[chainarong]

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"The on-going political crisis in this country would never have occurred if the Democrat Party and its ally, the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), had agreed to join the February 2 snap election."

Wasn't much point reading after this [though I did] as the reporter already is talking BS.

Hmm, isn't this supposed to be the anti PT paper, according to some, seems not to be so to me.

Seems a bit odd to me how the paper is pro and the next day it's against, looks like someone is throwing spanners in the works to bait posters into big reaction,

could be coincidence, but everyday an article that brings out the majority of anti Gov posters with a topic, then gives the minority happy time topic.

This one has been thrown in to create sidetrack as how it is written creates anger.

Yesterday it was Abhisits nephew, praising him for his good work, and today ??? amazing reporting from Nation.

The editor needs he's nuts cut out for allowing this sort of biased reporting , if they needed to make up for content they should have ran a Toyota add.

[Prbkk]

The Nation is hedging bets..

[JRSoul]

OK I will play along.

"The on-going political crisis in this country would never have occurred if the Democrat Party and its ally, the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), had agreed to join the February 2 snap election." So this is the ONLY problem that caused the current political stalemate? That is a bit simplistic way to look at things and at the same time conveniently forgetting all the issues that led up to February 2?

I still have not seen any other attempts by anyone to break the shouting match and sit down and appear to talk like adults.

He said before ""No one is blameless and we are all part of the problem" - if all parties would realize this fact, there could ground for some serious reform talks.

Is it such a bad idea to create some consensus and have the biggest political parties agreeing (or even committing) on reforms, so whoever is voted in as the majority would (hopefully) keep their word and commit to that reform together with the opposition doing its checks and balances? OK, this might be a rosy and fluffy dream - and the script maybe already cynically written behind the scenes, but as mentioned no-one else has come up with other workable ideas as far as I have read - and both sides appear to accept this attempt. I mean, it probably would not be any worse than now.

It really is that simple. If they'd stood for power, and their ideas stood up to scruitiny, they could run the country and fix the problems.

As it was they waited, and so each problem was analysed in details and picked over, and found to be lies. So their support fell away, and with it their votes. So now we have a party that cannot get elected, but has a bunch of corrupt friends still blocking elections.

Talk like adults? The only conversation that needs to happen is between the Electoral Candidates and the voters. Suthep doesn't speak for Thai people, he wasn't even the leader of the Democrats, Abhisit was not chosen by the Democrat voters, he was chosen by his friends.

Whether or not the Democrat party can be elected is yet to be decided. Reforms to the electoral system to prevent unviable populist vote-buying on political parties will only increase their chances - obviously to be avoided at all costs.

BTW who chose Thaksin to lead TRT, or to give orders to its successors?

By "unviable populist vote-buying" schemes, you refer to the rice pledge scheme? What are you suggesting, that poliiticians only be allowed to have unpopular programs? That please only small elite of people? No wonder Democrats can't get elected!

Who chose Thaksin to lead TRT? Who cares, there are 54 parties at the elections, and only the ones the voters choose will ever have power. Thaksin's power didn't come from being TRT, it came from being elected. If you want a refresher course on Thaksin popularity, you might remember what happened when the rice farmers marched on the government in protest at the rice cartel low prices. The government set the dogs on them.

Who would have thought it? Setting dogs on farmers, who were at the time nearly 50% of the population was a dumb electoral move!

No, I'm suggesting that politicians should be held responsible for hugely expensive ruinous vote-buying schemes. Hopefully, like Samak's widow, they will be forced to reimburse the country for their corrupt actions.

Thaksin was not elected. He bought popular politicians which allowed him to appoint himself, and his continual use of money and influence allows him to continue to run the country while a convicted fugitive criminal (with an illegally issued passport).

[fab4]

Slowly some of the yellow shirt supporters seen to be waking up, including some of the journalists at the nation. Kudos to them

Yellows? PAD? Thought they were gone...................

Like herpes, they come and go, but never go away.

Except they have. PAD is dead.

PAD Is dead Long live PEFOT.

[TVGerry]

There's no one else willing to do this. So fine, if no one wants Abhisit to mediate then let's leave it at status quo and wait for the courts to boot this crap government out.

[Eric Loh]

Forget about Ahbisit initiatives. The EC and the caretaker government have decided on the election date. Unimportant what Ahbisit will do from now. He just need to decide if he will participate in the 20th July election. Suterp and his PDRC is a spent force and can be neutralized and contained. Ahbisit has to sweat out a decision and either way he risk offending some people. The smart guy is not so smart after all.

[virtualtraveller]

This writer has just landed from Mars! The boycott of the election was the least of the problems, let's remind ourselves that the previous elections produced an autocratic leadership dominating parliament for selfish gains leading to massive discontent on the streets. Any elections without fixing that is a waste of time. And considering how much money is involved the Dems are wasting their time competing with an incumbent that has squirrelled away 100 billion plus in rice money, just waiting for an election.

Abhisit might be part of the problem, but a smaller part, and as one of the antagonists he's at least making a sincere effort to address the underlying problem, the other side is just in denial.

To be clear, the problem IS NOT about elections, it's about a deeply flawed society resulting in a dysfunctional democracy that has been perverted by money politics, corruption, lack of accountability and this notion of 'blank cheque' governance to the winners.

The nation should have rejected this article, it's laughably naive!