Indonesia to protest Friday prayer raid by Czech police

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Indonesia to protest Friday prayer raid by Czech police
News Desk
The Jakarta Post

JAKARTA: -- Indonesian Embassy in Prague, Czech Republic is intending to file an official protest over the unlawful detention of an Indonesian diplomat during a raid on a Prague mosque conducted amid Friday prayers by dozens of Czech counterterror police officers.

“We demand an explanation over what happened during last week’s Friday prayer raid,” Indonesian Embassy social and cultural affairs officer Wahono Yulianto said on Tuesday as quoted by antaranews.com.

Wahono was the diplomat held and questioned at the mosque by the police. He said the raid was conducted a minute before prayers began.

“While we were preparing for the prayer suddenly there was a shout from behind and a group of policemen came in, telling everybody to raise their hands. We were then questioned for around 40 minutes. We were freed as soon as they found our diplomatic passports,” he said.

The policemen were reportedly searching for suspects behind the distribution of a book titled, The Foundations of Tauhid: The Islamic Concept of God, which was deemed to contain radical teachings.


-- ANN 2014-04-30

[WoopyDoo]

Muslims once again demanding preferential treatment.

Now even the counter-terrorism branch has to adhere to EU political correctness laws before making an arrest of a suspected terrorist.

Give them nothing but the same treatment as anyone else.

[oneday]

Sounds to me like there is nothing to complain about.

"We were freed as soon as they found our diplomatic passports,” he said."

So what was the problem. Whiny little children.

[kinmaew]

I wish all the muslims would just live in one country like say Saudi Arabia, then we would never hear from them again.

[Will2011]

Topics like that are very good, as we can observe racist members from their hateful comments.

In any circumstances and regardless of the religion, it doesn't help the investigation nor effective communication between communities to interrupt any religion session one minute before prayer. As if it couldn't be achieved after the prayer. Perhaps, such an action has been carefully planned to create tensions and lead to provoke intolerant comments for a determined purpose.

[ggt]

I doubt that the police cared if the raid was before prayers...during prayers...of after...their mission was not spiritually sensitive...the Muslims are easily offended...

[Will2011]

I doubt that the police cared if the raid was before prayers...during prayers...of after...their mission was not spiritually sensitive...the Muslims are easily offended...

Having some knowledge about police matters, police raid officers don't do what they want, as they follow orders from supervisors, who take orders from the ministry of interior as a source, which carry as we know political intentions.

Second, the topic and legal issue here is clearly arresting a diplomat. Nothing about being offended.

[FinChin67]

Topics like that are very good, as we can observe racist members from their hateful comments.

In any circumstances and regardless of the religion, it doesn't help the investigation nor effective communication between communities to interrupt any religion session one minute before prayer. As if it couldn't be achieved after the prayer. Perhaps, such an action has been carefully planned to create tensions and lead to provoke intolerant comments for a determined purpose.

Racist? Islam is a race? Hate, racist and nazi cards are easily played.

What you think the book teaches? Hate towards non muslims perhaps?

“The Fundamentals of Tawheed” by Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, a Jamaican-born imam, who has been banned from entering Australia and Britain and expelled from Germany because of what his critics call extremist views.

Check his videos from Youtube and then come back about racism and hate speech.

[Greer]

Yes, I have to agree that the timing of the raid is completely irrelevant, as the police should be completely secular.

If this happened in a christian church, there might be complaints about timing, but it would not be seen as any form of insult to the religion.

Sadly these days we bow down to all forms of extremist view and especially, for some reason, to those who claim that Islam is being insulted or offended. It has no more, nor fewer, right to protection than any other religion, and it should be treated exactly the same way as any other religion.

To claim more, is to be religiously intolerant - which apparently is the case if you are non-Islamic, but perfectly alright if you are Islamic... well, no it isn't - sorry.

[simple1]

Sounds like an error by Czech security forces with the presence of a diplomat. One cannot believe the Mosque attendees were not under prior surveillence.

I assume Indonesia is not pleased as Indonesia has been one of the most sucessful governments in the suppression of Islamic extremism and actively collaborates with Western intelligence. It is in the realm of possability that the diplomat also has an intelligence role

Edited April 30, 2014 by simple1

[Steely Dan]

I doubt that the police cared if the raid was before prayers...during prayers...of after...their mission was not spiritually sensitive...the Muslims are easily offended...

Best to raid before I suppose as rioting and arson sometimes follow Friday prayers, especially if the Imam incites violence due to the usual long list of grievances.

[Will2011]

Topics like that are very good, as we can observe racist members from their hateful comments.

In any circumstances and regardless of the religion, it doesn't help the investigation nor effective communication between communities to interrupt any religion session one minute before prayer. As if it couldn't be achieved after the prayer. Perhaps, such an action has been carefully planned to create tensions and lead to provoke intolerant comments for a determined purpose.

Racist? Islam is a race? Hate, racist and nazi cards are easily played.

What you think the book teaches? Hate towards non muslims perhaps?

The Fundamentals of Tawheed by Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, a Jamaican-born imam, who has been banned from entering Australia and Britain and expelled from Germany because of what his critics call extremist views.

Check his videos from Youtube and then come back about racism and hate speech.

Yes, racist is an inappropriate word. Hateful and ignorant are more like it perhaps.

As far as I know, the article doesn't mention about any radical imam, but the fact that a diplomat has been illegally arrested. As mentioned, such an action has been carefully planned to create tensions and lead to provoke intolerant comments for a determined purpose.

If you find a rotten apple, it doesn't mean all apples are rotten. On the same note, if there's one child molester priest, it doesn't mean all Christians are child molesters. This generalization logic has not been proven successful.

By the way, I suggest to watch a meaningful video on the topic

. Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People

[tubby johnson]

Will2011,

Before posting anything, it would help to understand the topic you're writing about and googling "The Foundations of Tauhid: The Islamic Concept of God". It's filled with hate speech.

I'm not singling out any religion; both the Quran and Bible contain awful passages that incite hatred and that need to be excised in order to fit into a liberal, tolerant society. This is the 21st century and primitive hate speech should not be given the opportunity to poison our minds. Even a diplomat shouldn't arrogantly proclaim that he's immune from the laws of his host country if he is suspected of spreading hatred.

[Cobragold]

In Indonesia if you wanted to build a new church, you needed the approval of everybody living in the district, 90% Muslim. So you cannot build a church, numerous times churches have been bombed and Christians killed.

In Malaysia the Malay word for god, Allah is exclusive to Muslims and cannot be used by Christians as this might confuse the Muslims. In east Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak it can be used, this is cause Christians are mostly Dayaks and other minority groups and their votes are more important then confusing the local Muslims.

Go figure why western countries allow the Muslims to build mosques everywhere, later they want to impose their religious beliefs on others

[Credo]

Diplomats all over the world get detained if there is a problem. Once they produce their diplomatic passport, they are usually released. They have diplomatic immunity. If they are in the wrong place at the wrong time, they are not untouchable, only exempt.

[FinChin67]

Topics like that are very good, as we can observe racist members from their hateful comments.

In any circumstances and regardless of the religion, it doesn't help the investigation nor effective communication between communities to interrupt any religion session one minute before prayer. As if it couldn't be achieved after the prayer. Perhaps, such an action has been carefully planned to create tensions and lead to provoke intolerant comments for a determined purpose.

Racist? Islam is a race? Hate, racist and nazi cards are easily played.

What you think the book teaches? Hate towards non muslims perhaps?

The Fundamentals of Tawheed by Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, a Jamaican-born imam, who has been banned from entering Australia and Britain and expelled from Germany because of what his critics call extremist views.

Check his videos from Youtube and then come back about racism and hate speech.

Yes, racist is an inappropriate word. Hateful and ignorant are more like it perhaps.

As far as I know, the article doesn't mention about any radical imam, but the fact that a diplomat has been illegally arrested. As mentioned, such an action has been carefully planned to create tensions and lead to provoke intolerant comments for a determined purpose.

If you find a rotten apple, it doesn't mean all apples are rotten. On the same note, if there's one child molester priest, it doesn't mean all Christians are child molesters. This generalization logic has not been proven successful.

By the way, I suggest to watch a meaningful video on the topic (deleted video link to save space). Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People

How Hollywood Vilifies a People? Wait a second, you are assuming that I base my opinions how Hollywood portraits people? Hollywood?? I hope you're not serious.

This raid was about the book and about a VERY radical imaam that has been banned in several countries. This one "rotten apple" has been directly linked to terrorists ( Philips was named by the US government as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing) and to several other controversies.

Prague, April 26 (CTK) - The Czech police have accused the editor of a book on Islam of promoting a movement suppressing human rights and freedoms after a raid in two Prague centres of the Islamic Foundation on Friday, Pavel Hantak, spokesman for the police unit fighting organised crime (UOOZ), told CTK Saturday.

The suspect is a 55-year-old man who has Czech citizenship. He had the controversial book translated to Czech and he provided for its publishing and distribution. The man may end up in prison for up to 10 years. Within the raid, about 20 people were questioned and several of them may be expelled from the country.

Hantak said the police decided not to release the name of the book because they do not want to advertise it in this way.

The book allegedly spreads racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia and violence against "inferior" races, he said.

If there happens to be a diplomat inside a mosque during a raid then that's bad luck. This diplomat should also be happy that there is something being done about these extremists. Muslims should not blame the police about these raids but other muslims who are spreading the book and the radical views it promotes.

Edited May 1, 2014 by FinChin67