Thailand slammed over Rohingya

[rickirs]

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Once again Thailand is being questioned over it's track record , there is systematic failure from departmental heads down , there is no skills in administration , delegation of duties failure and lack of policing, this applies to most government departments , they seem to waffle through the maze of antiquated rules, there seems to be a denial syndrome emitting from the ruling party on anything that resembles a UN fact, it is time Thailand stood up and started being counted, however the leaders of the country over time have discouraged any participation of world standards by the sub - education system, the root of all problems in Thailand. alt=bah.gif>

Lest we not forget an independent military complex that does not answer to the Government and conducts its operations in secrecy. So long as Thailand's military can avoid accountability and transparency to the general public, and intimidate freedom of press through slander laws, its corruptability remains fertile.

[issanaus]

Myanmar is the source of the refugee problem because of its policies of discrimination, harsh persecution and violence. Odd idea probably but has anyone thought of chastising Burma for treating these poor people in such a way that they leave on rickety boats and get trafficked? I mean, first things first. There would not be a problem in Thailand if the people didn't want to leave Burma.

Most of them don't want to leave - but again they don't want to die either

The Burmese are threatening them with death. It would be my idea (I know a radical concept) to stop the Burmese from killing their people because they are not Buddhist.

The people pulling the leavers are the military which regardless of a thin venerer of gradual democratisation still rule the country. Actually the military directly and indirectly kill more Buddhist and possibly more Christians. "Religion" along with nationalism has been used since before 1962 when several of the states that were federated to form Burma want to leave. Equally complicit in the tragedy of these people is Bangladesh who also reject them as citizens and most of the departure are from Bangladesh. This is in no way an excuse for what has happened - just saying that things are a lot more complicate but no less tragic.

[thailiketoo]

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Once again Thailand is being questioned over it's track record , there is systematic failure from departmental heads down , there is no skills in administration , delegation of duties failure and lack of policing, this applies to most government departments , they seem to waffle through the maze of antiquated rules, there seems to be a denial syndrome emitting from the ruling party on anything that resembles a UN fact, it is time Thailand stood up and started being counted, however the leaders of the country over time have discouraged any participation of world standards by the sub - education system, the root of all problems in Thailand. alt=bah.gif>

Lest we not forget an independent military complex that does not answer to the Government and conducts its operations in secrecy. So long as Thailand's military can avoid accountability and transparency to the general public, and intimidate freedom of press through slander laws, its corruptability remains fertile.

What would you do? Take all the people from Burma, Laos and Cambodia that want to come to Thailand and do what with them? Who will pay for feeding them all? Where do they sleep? Who takes care of medical care?

[pmarlin]

All sides of Thai politics have been trying to get clear USA comments on Thai politics and administration

Now they have it

The EU has made similar comments.

so has the UN

[zydeco]

Just a note about the congressman, Chris Smith, apparently referred to in the OP. He is an anti-abortion zealot. And he is all but an emissary of the Vatican in US and world politics. He has stuck his nose into just about every country's domestic affairs, also complaining, for example, about policing in the UK. Not only has he complained about Thailand but every country in SE Asia, Russia, China, Turkey, most of Africa, large parts of South America. Just about everywhere--except the US.

Well on this issue he is right, so your point is? And if he wants to have a go about human rights in China or elsewhere, good luck to him I say.

The point? Maybe that foreign policy shouldn't be made based on newspaper reports? That grandstanding politicians seeking rewards from the Vatican might use diplomacy rather than headlines to create tangible change?

[Lucie]

Not just a centre for human trafficking (Royhinga, Uighurs, Lao and Thai women and minors), but also for ivory, tigers, pangolins, rosewood, class A drugs (almost daily a report on Thai Visa), weapons and other contraband. Despite huge investments in training, equipment and support by NGOs for Thai police, DNP and other enforcement agencies, and participation in international partnerships (UN, ASEAN), agreements (CITES) and treaties, most of this illegal trade still involves complicit officials working with highly organized gangs. In this situation Thailand has begun an extremely lawless and dangerous country, and severe economic sanctions, making politicians personally accountable for the agencies and civil servants they administer, and major overhauls of those enforcement agencies are the only path for reform.

A very good summary.

Can I suggest that, instead of trying to get blood out of a stone (ie hold politicians accountable) Thailand should just fire ALL the police force, from the top dog to the cadets, and recruit a force from overseas instead. ANY seas... just NOT from round here.

Can you picture it? A Thai person gets pulled over for driving badly, and the Australian / Indian / Chilean / whatever officer actually breathalizes him, locks him up, and removes his license. There would be outrage at the unfairness of foreigners!

[thailiketoo]

Not just a centre for human trafficking (Royhinga, Uighurs, Lao and Thai women and minors), but also for ivory, tigers, pangolins, rosewood, class A drugs (almost daily a report on Thai Visa), weapons and other contraband. Despite huge investments in training, equipment and support by NGOs for Thai police, DNP and other enforcement agencies, and participation in international partnerships (UN, ASEAN), agreements (CITES) and treaties, most of this illegal trade still involves complicit officials working with highly organized gangs. In this situation Thailand has begun an extremely lawless and dangerous country, and severe economic sanctions, making politicians personally accountable for the agencies and civil servants they administer, and major overhauls of those enforcement agencies are the only path for reform.

A very good summary.

Can I suggest that, instead of trying to get blood out of a stone (ie hold politicians accountable) Thailand should just fire ALL the police force, from the top dog to the cadets, and recruit a force from overseas instead. ANY seas... just NOT from round here.

Can you picture it? A Thai person gets pulled over for driving badly, and the Australian / Indian / Chilean / whatever officer actually breathalizes him, locks him up, and removes his license. There would be outrage at the unfairness of foreigners!

The head of Chile's national anti-narcotics police has been removed from his position and over 100 cases of possible police corruption investigated following the arrests of four officers on drug trafficking charges,

SYDNEY: The police minister of Australia's most populous state resigned today after being linked to a plot to illegally funnel political donations from a property development

Delhi government sources today said at least 77% complaints on a new anti-corruption helpline have been against the Delhi Police.

Pick three other countries for your new cops.

Edited May 2, 2014 by thailiketoo