Nepal4me Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I'm told my Michlin tires need to be replaced after 3 years or 50,000KM. I'm just over on both counts. I remember going over 100KM before changing tires back home. The heat and the sun might negatively affect the tires. Anybody have experience on this front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneyboy Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 More response in the motoring forum I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Agree that 3 year or 30K is about the limit. From experience, tires become very hard, presumably due to heat and sunlight, results in poor braking etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Roads are shocking pls heat humidity Iest 2 talad wah per wife But seriuosly as a safety issues if not competent like me I have car service and if the need doing I pay It's a small price for piece of mind As a rider may I add from personal experience in accident the rich falang often pays I know as hwen there was acollision between Hotel Bus and my car they said I was at fault Funny as I had given the guard keys and he parked it while I slep in their Hotel !! A few clls to the loss adjuster and a mouthful from my wife and they paid up without admitting "Liability " 55555 only in LOS If it can happen it'll happen on Thai rd erathquakes Elephants oveladed truck falling in half and that is just what I witenssed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 moved to motoring forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 A pair of my Mich are in their 7th year . From manufacture date they are guaranteed for 9 years......... I'm impressed, how's about the driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 How is that tire cleaner/polisher? I imagine if you use that alot, you could preserve the tire better. Maybe they will not harden up as fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Michelin tires can last practically forever in the Thai heat and humidity* Other brands, 3-4 years and they're toast. * Disclaimer: You will need a highly accurate tire pressure gauge, and will need to fill them up with daily loving kisses to possibly achieve these claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 How is that tire cleaner/polisher? I imagine if you use that alot, you could preserve the tire better. Maybe they will not harden up as fast? Don't put it on the tread of course:) I use that kit stuff every couple of weeks for the last few years. preserves the sidewalls like new. tread is very hard now after 40K kms on yokohamas over about 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 How is that tire cleaner/polisher? I imagine if you use that alot, you could preserve the tire better. Maybe they will not harden up as fast? Yep, treating 29% of tire with something the makes it glossy will work wonders (assuming 70 series tires - adjust percentage as applicable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Ran the factory supplied Michelins on my 08 Toyota Vigo for 100,000km no problem, five years of use. Then changed out the set. I wouldn't think 50k kms is necessary unless there's signs of tire damage from debris, run over nails or metal is quite common. I've had several good holes from that and always replace the tire. Never heard of a time limit other than having to change the tires on my Harley after 20 years of age. six years of use and 14 of storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 How can the average Jo actually tell by looking at a tire if its too hard ? I mean the tread you can check the depth, visually look at the walls but how can you actually tell or know if they are too hard ? (By hard I dont mean pressure either before some snart arse jumps in with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showbags Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 3 years and 100k I changed mine and still could have done another 30k at least....I only changed because of magic 100k mark and the wet season was starting, so new tyres was a good idea. Currently got same brand, 85k and most likely another 30/50k easily. As for hard....use your key and press down on the tread, if no give at all, they getting hard...also cracking etc...then try it on a newish tyre, in the supermarket car park on a red plated car...or stop by the tyre shop and compare....they should feel a little softer, little give in the rubber.......thats how I did it anyway and at the 100k mark, they were a little hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 How can the average Jo actually tell by looking at a tire if its too hard ? I mean the tread you can check the depth, visually look at the walls but how can you actually tell or know if they are too hard ? (By hard I dont mean pressure either before some snart arse jumps in with it) Poor braking is one clue, tire noise is another. Years I ago I thought it was all B/S also but subsequently came to believe it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Michelin tires can last practically forever in the Thai heat and humidity* Other brands, 3-4 years and they're toast. * Disclaimer: You will need a highly accurate tire pressure gauge, and will need to fill them up with daily loving kisses to possibly achieve these claims. 32psi perhaps? hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I had the pads and rear shoes replaced just last week, the guy in the workshop said the tyres needed changing but I couldnt see it, the tread is great etc but maybe thats what he was referring too, I thought usual try for more money. Quoted 18k for a new set of bridgestones on Toyota pre runner. What do you think ? Good deal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showbags Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Make sure you check the date of manufacture on the tyre before you buy them....when I got my last set....they were trying to flog me 5yo tyres already.,,,,,,nobody checks the date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Make sure you check the date of manufacture on the tyre before you buy them....when I got my last set....they were trying to flog me 5yo tyres already.,,,,,,nobody checks the date Would never have occured to me, thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Make sure you check the date of manufacture on the tyre before you buy them....when I got my last set....they were trying to flog me 5yo tyres already.,,,,,,nobody checks the date Would never have occured to me, thanks for that. They do mention the production date at the better shops. We recently changed the 3 year old Bridgestone Potenzas on the S6. The front were fairly worn on the outer edge. The back showed hairline cracks. It was time. Now we have Yoko Earth-1s on there. Road noise is way down. However, the do squeal easier than the Bridgestones if hanging a quick turn. 20,000 for the set. 245/40/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Make sure you check the date of manufacture on the tyre before you buy them....when I got my last set....they were trying to flog me 5yo tyres already.,,,,,,nobody checks the date How much difference would it make if the tire has been sitting in the shop a couple of years? That is, how much would the rubber degrade if it is not subjected to UV, heat and friction of the road? 5 years is a bit old though...easy to check the date of manufacture, as it's printed on each tire. Some places give heavy discounts on older stock (say 2011,2012 tires). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Make sure you check the date of manufacture on the tyre before you buy them....when I got my last set....they were trying to flog me 5yo tyres already.,,,,,,nobody checks the date How much difference would it make if the tire has been sitting in the shop a couple of years? That is, how much would the rubber degrade if it is not subjected to UV, heat and friction of the road? 5 years is a bit old though...easy to check the date of manufacture, as it's printed on each tire. Some places give heavy discounts on older stock (say 2011,2012 tires). Sunlight/UV doesn't seem to permeate most shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkt83100 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 [...]If it can happen it'll happen on Thai rd erathquakes Elephants oveladed truck falling in half and that is just what I witenssed . I don't know what you are smoking but I got a feeling you should change the brand of your cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Who told you that OP, let me guess a salesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 A useful and informative piece on this subject found here: http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/passenger/care/age.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Very old info re date stamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 For an easy reference go to.. tyreplus.com. au. Hit Products,and see some easy to read facts in English, Ozz Style with No Bol....s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) I posted the Bridgestone piece because of the following, not because the info about dates and side markings, after all, the purpose of the OP is to discuss life span of tyres in Asia and reasons for failure and short lifespan: How old is too old? This is a subject of much debate within the tyre industry and no tyre expert can tell exactly how long a tyre will last. However, on the results of experience many tyre companies, including Bridgestone, warrant their tyres against manufacturing and material defects for five years from the date of manufacture. Based on their understanding a number of vehicle manufacturers are now advising against the use of tyres that are more than six years old due to the effects of ageing. Tyre Ageing Mechanism There are three main mechanisms of tyre ageing. The first involves rubber becoming more brittle. Sulphur is used to link rubber molecules together during vulcanisation with the application of heat and pressure, giving the rubber its useful elastic properties and strength. As the tyre absorbs energy in the form of light, heat or movement the tyre continues to vulcanise. This ongoing vulcanisation causes the rubber to become stiffer and more brittle. The second mechanism of tyre ageing is oxidation involving oxygen and ozone from the air compromising the strength and elasticity of the rubber and the integrity of the rubber to steel bond. Basically heat and oxygen cause cross linking between polymer chains (causing the rubber to harden) and scission of polymer chains (leading to reduced elasticity). Thirdly, breakdown of the rubber to steel-belt bond will occur due to water permeating through a tyre and bonding with the brass plate coating on steel belts. This causes the steel to rubber bond to weaken leading to reduced tyre strength and reduced heat resistance. If compressed air used for inflation is not completely dry, tyre strength will be affected over time. Even unused tyres will become more brittle, weaker and less elastic with exposure to water, air, heat and sunlight. Edited May 16, 2014 by chiang mai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well if you cant read todays 2014 , style of markings over a range of different makers systems and codes, how does one proceed. Six Years is Nonsense here. 40 K or 2 Years is the safest for Hi Millage Folks. All your other Google info is spot on . Ever Worked in a Tire Factory.? Those bouncing balls brownish rubber the Moulders bounce at you soon becomes unfunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldebaran1981 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 please change your tires max after 3 years. my rear just blew whilst driving home! freaking scary! changed all 4 falkens @B$13800! heart pain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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