New or 5 Years old

[Neeranam]

I'm looking to buy a car and have seen many I like.

For example, I saw a 5 year old Hoda CRV today for 800k Baht. I also saw a new Nissarn Duke for just over 800k Baht.

There are other examples I've seen but really want to know what would be better for the same price, a new car with perhaps free insurance/roadside assistance etc or a better quality 5 year old car that you don't know how it's been used?

[Showbags]

How much is the honda crv new ?

[chris2004]

Second hand prices are a joke, like the Nissan. For 800k you can buiy a very nice new car with warranty and no worries.

[keemapoot]

If you're after a new CRV type small SUV or crossover at that price, you have a few options. All of these are somewhat smaller than a CRV, but similar concept and much better on fuel economy.

1. Order now a Ford Ecosport

2. Order now a Nissan Livina

3. Order now a Nissan Juke

3. Wait about 9+ months for the new Honda Vezel

4. Suzuki Grand Vitara? (same size as CRV)

Edited May 16, 2014 by keemapoot

[bobo42]

Personally, I would lean towards new. Less chance of major problems, and has a warranty that is fairly well honored, even here. Of course it all depends on the specific deals. I don't know anything about the Nissan Duke, but my own personal opinion is that the CRV is too heavily marked-up for the "value" of the car. I don't think I would pay 800k for a 5 year old model, but that's just me - that's probably a realistic local price.

[ignis]

The Suzuki same size as CRV is a much better deal ? http://www.taladrod.com/w20/Search/CarDet40.aspx?cib=1389576

[in other markets the all new SX4 S-Cross is the replacement no idea if that will be the case here ? also 2WD and 4x4 petrol or diesel options]

Some one in my Village has just got the Nissan Juke last weekend, brand new top model 850 k......... makes the CX5 Mazda look over priced

[also good reports on the 1.2 Turbo but will that ever be seen here ?]

Likewise with the Ford Ecosport, will the 1.0 lt Turbo ever come here?

CRV over priced and bloated looks, no thanks

Edited May 17, 2014 by ignis

[Jitar]

Second hand car prices in LOS have been too high for years but they are under a lot of pressure now. The problem is finding a reasonably priced car with some history that can be trusted. CR-V's are not a great buy used because Honda tend to be overpriced (i.e depreciate less) in LOS.

Buying new is a lot easier and the only alternative for new models like the Ford Ecosport and Nissan Juke. These are much smaller and cheaper than a CR-V and are good value if a larger vehicle is not needed.

If a bigger car is preferred, the new prices of the CR-V, Mazda CX-5 and Chev Captiva base models are about 50% more than the the EcoSport & Juke. The 4x4 diesel versions are ~100% more. The Suziki Vitara, Ford Escape & Nissan X-Trail are all similar size to CR-V but dated, under-powered and cheaper at around 1.1M baht new. The Suzuki is more truck like than the others and the Nissan and Suzuki are 4x2 only in LOS.

Edited May 17, 2014 by Jitar

[keemapoot]

Second hand car prices in LOS have been too high for years but they are under a lot of pressure now. The problem is finding a reasonably priced car with some history that can be trusted. CR-V's are not a great buy used because Honda tend to be overpriced (i.e depreciate less) in LOS.

Buying new is a lot easier and the only alternative for new models like the Ford Ecosport and Nissan Juke. These are much smaller and cheaper than a CR-V and are good value if a larger vehicle is not needed.

If a bigger car is preferred, the new prices of the CR-V, Mazda CX-5 and Chev Captiva base models are about 50% more than the the EcoSport & Juke. The 4x4 diesel versions are ~100% more. The Suziki Vitara, Ford Escape & Nissan X-Trail are all similar size to CR-V but dated, under-powered and cheaper at around 1.1M baht new. The Suzuki is more truck like than the others and the Nissan and Suzuki are 4x2 only in LOS.

I was disappointed Ford didn't bring the new Escape (Kuga) to Thailand, and especially in diesel version, but they obviously know more than I do about the demand for that segment vehicle in Thailand. the CX-5 is nice but overpriced IMO, and apart from the dog CRV, I don't see anyone else stepping up to the party, such as Nissan with a new reasonably priced X-trail, etc.. That C segment SUV product offering is a big disappointment in Thailand. I wonder if Chevy have anything in the works to replace that overpriced dated Captiva, but their price point is still too high.

[ignis]

Second hand car prices in LOS have been too high for years but they are under a lot of pressure now. The problem is finding a reasonably priced car with some history that can be trusted. CR-V's are not a great buy used because Honda tend to be overpriced (i.e depreciate less) in LOS.

Buying new is a lot easier and the only alternative for new models like the Ford Ecosport and Nissan Juke. These are much smaller and cheaper than a CR-V and are good value if a larger vehicle is not needed.

If a bigger car is preferred, the new prices of the CR-V, Mazda CX-5 and Chev Captiva base models are about 50% more than the the EcoSport & Juke. The 4x4 diesel versions are ~100% more. The Suziki Vitara, Ford Escape & Nissan X-Trail are all similar size to CR-V but dated, under-powered and cheaper at around 1.1M baht new. The Suzuki is more truck like than the others and the Nissan and Suzuki are 4x2 only in LOS.

I was disappointed Ford didn't bring the new Escape (Kuga) to Thailand, and especially in diesel version, but they obviously know more than I do about the demand for that segment vehicle in Thailand. the CX-5 is nice but overpriced IMO, and apart from the dog CRV, I don't see anyone else stepping up to the party, such as Nissan with a new reasonably priced X-trail, etc.. That C segment SUV product offering is a big disappointment in Thailand. I wonder if Chevy have anything in the works to replace that overpriced dated Captiva, but their price point is still too high.

Thought the Capitiva was to end a long time ago and the Trax would come to replace it ? If I remember it was coming, than not, then maybe, Chevy Thailand even had it on there web site a year or so ago.. so looks like they only offer the ex Daewoo

and the new Nissan X-Trail will be on sale when ? it's out in other places

on xtrailthailandclub price will start at 1,1 million. ?

Edited May 17, 2014 by ignis

[Scotssing]

Second hand car prices in LOS have been too high for years but they are under a lot of pressure now. The problem is finding a reasonably priced car with some history that can be trusted. CR-V's are not a great buy used because Honda tend to be overpriced (i.e depreciate less) in LOS.

Buying new is a lot easier and the only alternative for new models like the Ford Ecosport and Nissan Juke. These are much smaller and cheaper than a CR-V and are good value if a larger vehicle is not needed.

If a bigger car is preferred, the new prices of the CR-V, Mazda CX-5 and Chev Captiva base models are about 50% more than the the EcoSport & Juke. The 4x4 diesel versions are ~100% more. The Suziki Vitara, Ford Escape & Nissan X-Trail are all similar size to CR-V but dated, under-powered and cheaper at around 1.1M baht new. The Suzuki is more truck like than the others and the Nissan and Suzuki are 4x2 only in LOS.

I was disappointed Ford didn't bring the new Escape (Kuga) to Thailand, and especially in diesel version, but they obviously know more than I do about the demand for that segment vehicle in Thailand. the CX-5 is nice but overpriced IMO, and apart from the dog CRV, I don't see anyone else stepping up to the party, such as Nissan with a new reasonably priced X-trail, etc.. That C segment SUV product offering is a big disappointment in Thailand. I wonder if Chevy have anything in the works to replace that overpriced dated Captiva, but their price point is still too high.

The Subaru XV at 1350k is a bit cheaper for a 4 wheel drive than the CRV or Mazda CX5 4 wheel drive versions. It is now made in Malaysia. However it seems Subarus are an acquired taste. They sell like hot cakes in N America but you hardly ever see one in Thailand. Dealer network is also pretty Spartan. I still think I will go for one rather than a CRV. Just a more interesting car

[Retro Reactive]

The relatively affordable prices of fixing a car in thaland means that wrecks that would of been writeoffs find their way back on the road with the buyer none the wiser. That in addition to the flood really puts a damper on the improved second hand car values which reflect the 1st car 100k scheme, If I only had 650k or less for a car id roll dice on a second hand car than some b segment car with minimal safety and refinement. center drivers armrest is a big ask for the b segment it seems.

currious if anyone has experiences with Testcar, I notice some tents use them to reassure buyers but how thorough is the test and would it uncover if the car had been in a flood and car components are still largely intact, ie airbags, lights, etc.

[ignis]

Fixing cars makes you wonder, yesterday afternoon drove to Central at Pak Kret, on the way outside a motor repair shop, trucks were just unloading 5 front 1/2 and 3 rear 1/2 of the BMW Mini. makes one wonder if theses will be repaired full Mini's ? [cut and shunt ?] of course they maybe just for spare parts. you see here so many full unmarked 1/2 cars for sale makes one wonder, not to far from this area is a ? breakers, has many 1/2 BMW's of all ages.