New cache of arms found in Bangkok

[fab4]

One side had weapons for unjustifiable attacks the other side had weapons for justifiable defense. I think the historians will be able to work that out even if you can't. The weapons were only one of the many reasons for the justified coup.

Just keep on digging, guys, "justifiable defence" . TVF, the gift that keeps on giving

[Nickymaster]

yes the specially trained red shirts that will use peaceful means to get what they want

Some of the war weapons the soldiers found at Suthep's rally site on Ratchadamnoen

Richard Barrow twitter

So both sides have war weapons. One side more than the other. Coup justified!

In generations to come historians will look back on the history of fledgling democracy in Thailand and slap themselves on the head and say " That's it, nickymaster had it nailed all the time, "both sides have war weapons. One side more than the other. Coup justified!", what were we thinking of.

a good historian will remember all the nepotism and corruption by Takki too!

[Baerboxer]

One side had weapons for unjustifiable attacks the other side had weapons for justifiable defense. I think the historians will be able to work that out even if you can't. The weapons were only one of the many reasons for the justified coup.

Just keep on digging, guys, "justifiable defence" . TVF, the gift that keeps on giving

You normally try to justify all the criminal acts carried out by the PTP/UDD red shirt amalgam by saying the other side do it.

PTP corrupt so are the dems.

Thaksin a crook so is Suthep (never convicted but hey, you never let the facts get in the way)

The Reds have weapons so do the protesters

etc etc etc.

Do you realize how ridiculous this looks? Or do you really think people will just accept this nonsense?

The police have not managed to capture and prosecute one person for the armed and murderous attacks carried out against the protesters and anyone unlucky enough to be caught in the vicinity. Oh, of course, you think these were all self inflicted attacks carried out to discredit those peace loving kind heart red shirt volunteers who only ever act out of self defense as a last resort.

There really is no hope for you,

[Artisi]

Interesting that they found an army helmet. I have long said that some reds disguised themselves during the 2010 occupation as soldiers so that they could blame Abhisit for random killings. This type of strategy is part and parcel of sociopathic thinking. Thaksin thinks. The reds act.

You are hilarious ianf, keep it up. Redshirts "disguised as soldiers so they could blame abhisit for random killings",oh my.

Do you have even the slightest grasp on reality?

Maybe lessons from the master of disguise- Chalerm.

[arjunadawn]

IMHO the redshirts were, and still probably are, intending to wage a war against anyone who stands in their way, the main goal being to bring back thaksin, all on his orders of course.

Based on the number of arms cache's being found over the last few days, someone was preparing to start a "war"....self defense pigs ar*e...

and one suspects this is the reason the military stepped in...I am not going to get drawn into the Red/Yellow debate...but it seems someone didn't want to play nicely.

Yea. Think your both correct. Military must've been privy to something far more widespread mounting. However, it's only a change in tactics choices for red shirts. Their options are limited but tried and practiced for generations- how best to make the civilian population lose confidence in the military? Answer: to have small, harassing attacks on checkpoints enough so that the military must over react to chase them down, thus drawing the ire of the civilians. It's the only card left, if they've one to play. Edited May 23, 2014 by arjunadawn

[h90]

That Sniper rifle looks nasty for self defense she's protecting her acres and acres of rice field I think...

also hand grenades are typical self defense weapons

[transam]

Seems strange to me that now the army is involved there is suddenly an array of hardware turning up.

Did "certain" folk already know about these caches and did nothing........

[h90]

IMHO the redshirts were, and still probably are, intending to wage a war against anyone who stands in their way, the main goal being to bring back thaksin, all on his orders of course.

Based on the number of arms cache's being found over the last few days, someone was preparing to start a "war"....self defense pigs ar*e...

and one suspects this is the reason the military stepped in...I am not going to get drawn into the Red/Yellow debate...but it seems someone didn't want to play nicely.

Yea. Think your both correct. Military must've been privy to something far more widespread mounting. However, it's only a change in tactics choices for red shirts. Their options are limited but tried and practiced for generations- how best to make the civilian population lose confidence in the military? Answer: to have small, harassing attacks on checkpoints enough so that the military must over react to chase them down, thus drawing the ire of the civilians. It's the only card left, if they've one to play.

The best military can't do much against terrorist attacks. if sometimes shooting into the market, people loose trust in the military and there will be one point the military is shooting some innocent person by mistake.....

As you say...tried for generations and working well.

At the same time buying the best PR to picture Thaksin as mix between Ghandi, Aung San Suuki, Mother Theresa and Dalai Lama.....

[h90]

Seems strange to me that now the army is involved there is suddenly an array of hardware turning up.

Did "certain" folk already know about these caches and did nothing........

I am sure the army had everywhere spies and knew things.

[JRSoul]

Did anyone think to ask where she got the money to buy expensive weapons?

[h90]

Did anyone think to ask where she got the money to buy expensive weapons?

No because it is obvious and these guns aren't expensive.......

[djjamie]

So both sides have war weapons. One side more than the other. Coup justified!

In generations to come historians will look back on the history of fledgling democracy in Thailand and slap themselves on the head and say " That's it, nickymaster had it nailed all the time, "both sides have war weapons. One side more than the other. Coup justified!", what were we thinking of.

One side had weapons for unjustifiable attacks the other side had weapons for justifiable defense. I think the historians will be able to work that out even if you can't. The weapons were only one of the many reasons for the justified coup.

What is happening here is not a coup but is a counter-coup. The PTP conducted the actual coup 3 years earlier when it highjacked democracy (post ballot box of course). The Thai military and the majority of the populace recognized this and this was reversing the coup.

It is only a minority insurgent group called the UDD that spread the cancerous propaganda and going by this mountain of war weapons being found they will happily spread that propaganda through the barrel of a gun.

Rest assured as the accused terrorist Jatuporn said, an armed militia will decent on Bangkok to try to ensure the country remains run by an unelected illegitimate fugitive.

You have seen a counter-coup my friend. If Jatuporn gets his way the coup will follow.

[transam]

Did anyone think to ask where she got the money to buy expensive weapons?

My thoughts are this bird had a "safe" house for hardware..........

[NeilSA1]

Interesting that they found an army helmet. I have long said that some reds disguised themselves during the 2010 occupation as soldiers so that they could blame Abhisit for random killings. This type of strategy is part and parcel of sociopathic thinking. Thaksin thinks. The reds act.

You are hilarious ianf, keep it up. Redshirts "disguised as soldiers so they could blame abhisit for random killings",oh my.

Do you have even the slightest grasp on reality?

You said it. Typical nasty little post.

[culicine]

Makes my stamp collection look pretty lame

[fab4]

One side had weapons for unjustifiable attacks the other side had weapons for justifiable defense. I think the historians will be able to work that out even if you can't. The weapons were only one of the many reasons for the justified coup.

Just keep on digging, guys, "justifiable defence" . TVF, the gift that keeps on giving

You normally try to justify all the criminal acts carried out by the PTP/UDD red shirt amalgam by saying the other side do it.

PTP corrupt so are the dems.

Thaksin a crook so is Suthep (never convicted but hey, you never let the facts get in the way)

The Reds have weapons so do the protesters

etc etc etc.

Do you realize how ridiculous this looks? Or do you really think people will just accept this nonsense?

The police have not managed to capture and prosecute one person for the armed and murderous attacks carried out against the protesters and anyone unlucky enough to be caught in the vicinity. Oh, of course, you think these were all self inflicted attacks carried out to discredit those peace loving kind heart red shirt volunteers who only ever act out of self defense as a last resort.

There really is no hope for you,

I try and counteract lies and misinformation being posted. Unfortunately there is a lot on this forum. If you happen to disagree with what I post it does not make it any less relevant. I'm not posting here for your benefit or to please you.

I accept that you think there is no hope for me - what hope did you have in mind, that I'll start thinking like you? If so, you're right there is no hope of that.

[khunken]

One side had weapons for unjustifiable attacks the other side had weapons for justifiable defense. I think the historians will be able to work that out even if you can't. The weapons were only one of the many reasons for the justified coup.

Just keep on digging, guys, "justifiable defence" . TVF, the gift that keeps on giving

You normally try to justify all the criminal acts carried out by the PTP/UDD red shirt amalgam by saying the other side do it.

PTP corrupt so are the dems.

Thaksin a crook so is Suthep (never convicted but hey, you never let the facts get in the way)

The Reds have weapons so do the protesters

etc etc etc.

Do you realize how ridiculous this looks? Or do you really think people will just accept this nonsense?

The police have not managed to capture and prosecute one person for the armed and murderous attacks carried out against the protesters and anyone unlucky enough to be caught in the vicinity. Oh, of course, you think these were all self inflicted attacks carried out to discredit those peace loving kind heart red shirt volunteers who only ever act out of self defense as a last resort.

There really is no hope for you,

I try and counteract lies and misinformation being posted. Unfortunately there is a lot on this forum. If you happen to disagree with what I post it does not make it any less relevant. I'm not posting here for your benefit or to please you.

I accept that you think there is no hope for me - what hope did you have in mind, that I'll start thinking like you? If so, you're right there is no hope of that.

No you post your own version of misinformation as you've done in this thread.

There's no doubt that some of the the anti-government guards were armed. Suthep admitted that. The reason is well known to anyone who follows the events over the last 6 months. The police and CAPO failed to make any attempt to protect the protestors let alone find out who the attackers were.

So, the PDRC armed some guards for their defensive protection. They did not bomb and shoot at red shirt rallies. (Oh yes, no doubt you'll mention the shoot-out at the Rajamagala stadium, started by the reds and it was the students network that were involved).

Yes, the PDRC was absolutely justified in defending themselves as anyone would when under constant attack. It is pretty obvious that the large bulk of the weaponry recently found because of army involvement, was destined for the red shirt militant wing and was likely to add to the 25 or so killed at and around anti-government rallies.

[soalbundy]

When do we get our rice money? The wife said she heard on the radio it would be next year, sounds like never

[DrTuner]

yes the specially trained red shirts that will use peaceful means to get what they want

Some of the war weapons the soldiers found at Suthep's rally site on Ratchadamnoen

Richard Barrow twitter

That Poy-Sian will surely open the nostrils.

[scorecard]

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Interesting that they found an army helmet. I have long said that some reds disguised themselves during the 2010 occupation as soldiers so that they could blame Abhisit for random killings. This type of strategy is part and parcel of sociopathic thinking. Thaksin thinks. The reds act.

You are hilarious ianf, keep it up. Redshirts "disguised as soldiers so they could blame abhisit for random killings",oh my.

Do you have even the slightest grasp on reality?

So fabby your saying that this totally and categorically impossible and you know specifically without no possible error that there were no ... 'reds disguised themselves during the 2010 occupation as soldiers so that they could blame Abhisit for random killings'.

Wow you have so much totally accurate nformation at your fingertips I'm more than impressed.

[soalbundy]

Who cares who had more guns,who started it, who was worse, little Fred,or little George, the rabble from both sides have left,good riddance. What have you changed ? we have a coup,good, and in the long run will this change anything? No, we will have a new constitution,it will be ignored like the last one, corruption will continue,the police will carry on taking bribes,someone else will be the new Thaksin and the merry go round that is Thailand will continue to spin, Much ado about nothing as the great bard would have said.

[khunken]

Who cares who had more guns,who started it, who was worse, little Fred,or little George, the rabble from both sides have left,good riddance. What have you changed ? we have a coup,good, and in the long run will this change anything? No, we will have a new constitution,it will be ignored like the last one, corruption will continue,the police will carry on taking bribes,someone else will be the new Thaksin and the merry go round that is Thailand will continue to spin, Much ado about nothing as the great bard would have said.

I have a feeling you're right but hope you're not. A new PM and cabinet will be appointed to put together a set of reforms. That's the easy bit. What happens next is unclear but I would hope for a referendum on the reforms followed by an election being inclusive of any campaigning & voting reforms agreed.