Ex-PMs Thaksin Shinawatra, Yingluck Shinawatra to establish government in exile

[NongKhaiKid]

Thaksins government in exile

with all of them locked up it will be a big government comprising of him him and him

" Thar's the way I like it ah ha ah ha "

[leesgems]

Today they added Thaksin's son to list of those detained. Looks like the general has almost all the trump cards in his hand.

[american12bthai]

Government in exile is a fantasy. Even so, I don't think I'd want my lawyer spouting off about it while I'm in custody of the military.

my friends and i used to play fantasy football. can this work for "Shinawatra fantasy Government: exile edition"?

i hope he tries this. he should practice by playing Command and Conquer.

[Theoutsider]

Today they added Thaksin's son to list of those detained. Looks like the general has almost all the trump cards in his hand.

Don't think so

Where is the jack of diamond's

[cougar52]

Well, I think he has just assured an extended period of detention for all PTP members currently in custody, and I now envisage an all-out effort to get KhunT back to Thailand to face the music. This has to be the craziest thing Thaksin has ever set out to do, and it will certainly prove to be his undoing...!!

Great brotherly love, throw your sister under the bus for your own ends.

Not to mention the Army now have his only son to go along with his sisters, he was picked up in CM last night and flown by helicopter to Bangkok.

[animatic]

The banner should read "Thaksin and Yingluck the comedy duo appearing daily".

Yes indeed, and they will be a comedy duo, that is until the first foreign nation recognizes them Should the U.N., E.U., U.S., Japan or another major country recognize them as the rightful leaders of a government in exile, then the comedy will not be so funny for those military leaders who put themselves out on a limb. If they do indeed set up a government in exile then I think that the U.N. would likely be the first to recognize them and start sanctions against Thailand

This is the goal. ^^

Highly unlikely, in spite of knee jerk boiler plate rhetorical flourishes from some governments.

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[kimamey]

"It is understood Ms Yingluck and several former ministers now being detained plan to join the protester-led government."

".."We are unsure of her whereabouts because the military confiscated her mobile phones and those of her aides.".."

So how did Yingluck communicate her intentions?

It does seem a bit odd while she's still in detention. Hopefully the general will give details of reforms and they'll be fair. I don't know if he's thought of the reforms or if he wants both sides to do it to be credible

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[CharlesHH]

This story has it all....... re:

-Thaksin's intent to fight to the death, the Red's and his private army deaths, not him of course.

-Thaksin's growing madness.

-Slime Robert Amsterdam who earns money from Thaksin and other petty dictators and tyrants world wide, is the same man who Post quoted as saying the monarchy has to go, and in front of the Red Shirts camp a few days ago. Note that no reports of Reds condemning Amsterdam's comments, signaling Reds real intentions.

-America and its tv networks want their puppet Thaksin. Take names of the networks.

-American govt and biz interests want puppet Thaksin.

-Foreign news formerly dismissed as too few the thousands of protesters with whistles, but now credits a hundred as representative of anti coup feelings.

Robert slime "lawyer" to Thaksin says:

Lets see, where to set up a govt in exile? Gosh, maybe Somalia, uh maybe Nigeria with Mr. Goodluck, let me "think," where can Thaksin buy a spot.... oh oh, this is not as easy as it looks.......North Korea, nah too cold for him..... uh uh, let me get back to you on this."

Way way too much tolerated of Thaksin's madness. My reality tv show script is in development as per this msg.

[dcutman]

What would a Govt in exile be able to accomplish? Other than keeping the hate fires burning brightly.

I think the objective is that - in the case of international intervention - the government in exile would be allowed to return to power if the junta were overthrown. Memory may fail me but I think that's happened in other countries with "governments in exile". (No, I can't provide an example but I think it's occurred, historically speaking.)

Thanks, I did realize that after fully waking up with my first cup of coffee, but to late to edit.

[givenall]

Government in exile is a fantasy. Even so, I don't think I'd want my lawyer spouting off about it while I'm in custody of the military.

He can join the shah or iran, noriaga, etc. also some are already dead and have their exile government in hell

[Diplomatico]

The banner should read "Thaksin and Yingluck the comedy duo appearing daily".

Yes indeed, and they will be a comedy duo, that is until the first foreign nation recognizes them Should the U.N., E.U., U.S., Japan or another major country recognize them as the rightful leaders of a government in exile, then the comedy will not be so funny for those military leaders who put themselves out on a limb. If they do indeed set up a government in exile then I think that the U.N. would likely be the first to recognize them and start sanctions against Thailand

This is the goal. ^^

Highly unlikely, in spite of knee jerk boiler plate rhetorical flourishes from some governments.

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Tend to agree with your assessment of the 'likelihood'....though I do think it's the basis for the 'positioning'. Now, if the Chinese were to become involved - different story.

[Seastallion]

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The banner should read "Thaksin and Yingluck the comedy duo appearing daily".

Yes indeed, and they will be a comedy duo, that is until the first foreign nation recognizes them Should the U.N., E.U., U.S., Japan or another major country recognize them as the rightful leaders of a government in exile, then the comedy will not be so funny for those military leaders who put themselves out on a limb. If they do indeed set up a government in exile then I think that the U.N. would likely be the first to recognize them and start sanctions against Thailand

Regardless of UN, US, EU or whatever international condemnation of the coup, absolutely no country (except perhaps N. Korea or Zimbabwe and such-like) will recognise a fugitive ex PM and a sacked PM as a legitimate government in exile. Now had Yingluck been deposed by the coup, it might have been a different matter, but she wasn't. She was legally dismissed.

Edited May 25, 2014 by Seastallion

[NeverSure]

Isn't the general walking a tightrope? Isn't YS very popular in many areas? Is there a risk in holding her too long?

Is that what Thaksin is hoping for with his announcement? Hold YS captive and start an internal rebellion?

Thaksin and YS are very popular in some places. Enough places to matter. And Thaksin really has the connections.

This isn't over yet.

[chilizzz]

Thaksin is announcing it now because it will force the army to keep Yingluck in detention for longer than they announced (7 days), leading to more anger and ultimately a civil war.

[GeckosDiving]

Isn't the general walking a tightrope? Isn't YS very popular in many areas? Is there a risk in holding her too long?

Is that what Thaksin is hoping for with his announcement? Hold YS captive and start an internal rebellion?

Thaksin and YS are very popular in some places. Enough places to matter. And Thaksin really has the connections.

This isn't over yet.

Still grabbing at straws are we.

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[michaelscottfan]

So much for his ' I've quit politics' mantra. Note to self: never believe the man.

It would be irresponsible of him to allow this current dictatorship to continue their human rights violations unchallenged. He is far from perfect to be sure, but when given the choice between a quasi-corrupt politician and a violent military dictatorship, I'd pick the imperfect politician every time.

[ezzra]

Sure why not? not a moment to lose, take all your family, cronies, nominees, proxies

and all the ass kissing personal and set up your own country somewhere whereby you can

cheat, robe and manipulate each other with impunity, and the twain shall never meet...

[Now or Never]

Where?

A tent in Dubai !!!

[thesetat2013]

This should not be a surprise to anyone. Thak can not do what he wants most. Enter Thailand! Now there is almost NO way for this to happen unless he seperates the North. The threats have been there for awhile now. Thak has to movr fast before a new Gov and constitution and elections are.made. A last ditch effort on his part. The way the Army is cleaning house it is doubtful Thaks followers will do more than suggest seccession.

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[Theoutsider]

Isn't the general walking a tightrope? Isn't YS very popular in many areas? Is there a risk in holding her too long?

Is that what Thaksin is hoping for with his announcement? Hold YS captive and start an internal rebellion?

Thaksin and YS are very popular in some places. Enough places to matter. And Thaksin really has the connections.

This isn't over yet.

Still grabbing at straws are we.

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Long game.

[otherstuff1957]

As others have pointed out, this announcement will give the military an incentive to hold her and other family members longer which will serve two purposes:

1 It will make the Junta look worse and Thaksin look better.

2 It will remove some of his less obedient followers from the decision making process. His sisters will be much more useful as martyrs than as functioning (or dysfunctional) members of his government in exile.

All in all, a shrewd but ruthless move on his part.

[smedly]

He claims his sister wants to set up this Government in exile so why is he announcing it and not her. It is his desire and he is just using Yinglucks. Does she even know about it. That will be a few more question the army will be asking. Wonder if she has any answers.

every time I think of the Thaksin Yingluc relationship my mind wonders to a clay pigeon shoot, Thaksin is on the lever and YL is ready to be launched

[NongKhaiKid]

Well, I think he has just assured an extended period of detention for all PTP members currently in custody, and I now envisage an all-out effort to get KhunT back to Thailand to face the music. This has to be the craziest thing Thaksin has ever set out to do, and it will certainly prove to be his undoing...!!

Great brotherly love, throw your sister under the bus for your own ends.

Not to mention the Army now have his only son to go along with his sisters, he was picked up in CM last night and flown by helicopter to Bangkok.

There hasn't been any mention recently of his daughters who went to London some months ago on ' business ' but no suggestion they have returned.

How did they get work permits so quickly ?

[smedly]

"It is understood Ms Yingluck and several former ministers now being detained plan to join the protester-led government."

".."We are unsure of her whereabouts because the military confiscated her mobile phones and those of her aides.".."

So how did Yingluck communicate her intentions?

by clay pigeon

[londonthai]

This government will have more legitimacy than the military junta, hated, not endorsed, even the senate speaker thrown away as as body to appoint an interim PM.

This government will be a focus point for the opposition in the country, organising funds, equipment, printing publications.

And what if they are endorsed after a while?

And what if the second one, who escaped to the uk, endorses them, as the only hope of returning to thailand?

Governments on exile are known from ww2, de gaulle, czekoslavakian, polish and other governments in london

Edited May 25, 2014 by londonthai

[thesetat2013]

Isn't the general walking a tightrope? Isn't YS very popular in many areas? Is there a risk in holding her too long?

Is that what Thaksin is hoping for with his announcement? Hold YS captive and start an internal rebellion?

Thaksin and YS are very popular in some places. Enough places to matter. And Thaksin really has the connections.

This isn't over yet.

YL lost her popularity prior to the last elections. Now only the hardcore REDS and the zpaid locals support her. The few places in the North wanting Thak and YL to make a Gov there are probably Thaks lackeys.

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[smedly]

What would a Govt in exile be able to accomplish? Other than keeping the hate fires burning brightly.

I think the objective is that - in the case of international intervention - the government in exile would be allowed to return to power if the junta were overthrown. Memory may fail me but I think that's happened in other countries with "governments in exile". (No, I can't provide an example but I think it's occurred, historically speaking.)

Iran!!

Ah, yes. Couple of countries on the African continent too, methinks.

If only - I very much doubt he will be willing to leave the current safe haven of Dubai - Africa has too many willing to do stuff for very little

[Kasset Tak]

This is shows how much Thaksin cares about Thailand! And any country recognizing a exile government formed by Thaksin or anyone else are not looking to the best for Thailand!

There would never be peace talks!!!

The best thing for the police/army or who ever have the power is to send out a Interpol arrest warrant for Thaksin's arrest after all he is a convicted fugitive!

UN, US and EU please give Thailand a chance, if you would recognize a Thai government in exile led by Thaksin or anyone else then the peace process for Thailand this would become a new Iraq or Yugoslavia . The only way to get this country back on track is to let the peace come from within, many of the Thai people want this and the rest need to accept it. Otherwise there will be no peace in this country for many years to come!

[ChrisY1]

Wow, talk about bad timing. I wouldn't want to be YS in detention right now.

Probably indicates the level of care he has for her.....

[wealth]

This story has it all....... re:

-Thaksin's intent to fight to the death, the Red's and his private army deaths, not him of course.

-Thaksin's growing madness.

-Slime Robert Amsterdam who earns money from Thaksin and other petty dictators and tyrants world wide, is the same man who Post quoted as saying the monarchy has to go, and in front of the Red Shirts camp a few days ago. Note that no reports of Reds condemning Amsterdam's comments, signaling Reds real intentions.

-America and its tv networks want their puppet Thaksin. Take names of the networks.

-American govt and biz interests want puppet Thaksin.

-Foreign news formerly dismissed as too few the thousands of protesters with whistles, but now credits a hundred as representative of anti coup feelings.

Robert slime "lawyer" to Thaksin says:

Lets see, where to set up a govt in exile? Gosh, maybe Somalia, uh maybe Nigeria with Mr. Goodluck, let me "think," where can Thaksin buy a spot.... oh oh, this is not as easy as it looks.......North Korea, nah too cold for him..... uh uh, let me get back to you on this."

Way way too much tolerated of Thaksin's madness. My reality tv show script is in development as per this msg.

Please do not say America and Americans want the puppet Thaksin. It's the corporate globalists stationed there.

Wishes in America for a coup there to save them from these kind of enforcing globalists are getting louder by the minute.