Violators of lese majesty law, coup orders to face court martial

[Fat Haggis]

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Please remember on the internet we all have IP address'd that can be traced back to the person sending the letter

In the pater 1 month ago was some idiot who threaten some one and last week he was traced and charged

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

On arrival into Thailand, strip searched and probed at the boarder and not behind the screen. Watch what u share

What is a thwim ? a farlang? a pater ? a becareful ? tezzainoz you are outdoing everybody

people with lisps should think before they thwim ?

[Gotalaugh]

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

The idea the Thai army is scouring an English language forum to look for "reds," then linking it to immigration is obsurd in the extreme. Thailand has enough sanctions about to hit it without arressting foreign holidaymakers over what they wrote in an online forum hosted in a different country.

I think you are just trying really hard to feel part of a colour or movement, in this case yellow. Its pathetic and typical of the sexpat retiree who cares little for the economy as their bank balance is unaffected,.

I guess you feel so much better now that you have that off your chest.

It's a shame you don't know what you are talking about.

Another of the ever shrinking group of pro PDRC sex pats that just doesnt understand what any of this is about.

Dont worry, you`ll work it out champ

Would love for you to let us all know 'what it's all about.'

[bangrak]

About the demonstrators taking on the streets (though their number seemed only a fraction larger than the photographers, cameramen and other reporters, who probably just happened to be there fortuitously...?), let Thailand be 'civil' with them, something like Europeans could do, and have a Police force ('assisted' by some troops, to make sure they do their job) round them all up, no violence used, and proceed to control all of their ID-cards, add a fresh picture, and a handwritten note of each individual stating its current address, plus a strong, first and last, warning concerning the illegal activity which will automatically lead to an arrest for recidivists, scan all this info (1 A4 page max.), at once, on the spot, in a new data bank, repeat the operation at every meeting or gathering, 'remove', here by force if necessary, all the second offenders, and doing so, quickly and effectively avoid the repetition of 2009/2010. The ones caught would not be sent to jail, but spread over military camps, where for a few weeks they could enjoy a healthy, and sobering, life. Well, that's what I would do, but I'm just a Farang, and no general...

[attento]

But they were not welcome in America so they moved to Thailand and joined the Thai visa forum so they could cry "Burn the red shirts" "Burn the red shirts" "Its all Thaksin (the devils) fault"

You missed a few. Some are crying about "burning the Yellows ". How fortunate that there are some rational TV Posters who are colour blind.

[Overcome]

Lets hope the next move by the generals will be to kick out all those farangs that are here on tourist visas for for cheap pxxxs, making money without the correct visas and all those guys that do the border crossings until recently.

I notice the generals are now in charge of the police and the immigration falls under the RTP.

Lets see the wining that starts with all those farangs once their tourist visas are not renewed. I am seeing all the time the winning on TV and all I can do is at it.

I would suggest the generals the following changes to the Immigration rules so we get rid of all those Farang banocks.

2 x Tourist visas and you are out of the country for six months.

No border crossings for farangs of which the government of their country gives a negative reaction to the coup.

Foreigners that want to stay longer them one year in Thailand, should deposit 5 million Baht in a Thai bank account.

Thailand has been to nice to all those foreigners that come to Thailand for the past years, so let the generals also clean up the immigration act and put it more on par with HK, Japan, Australia, Singapore etc.

For me, I have a PR so I am not worried about it as I paid millions of Baht in taxes.

Oh yes, in regards of overstay increase the amount to 250,000 Baht or three years jail. Illegal working in Thailand 500,000 Baht or 6 years jail.

If Prayuth can do this one I might forgive him for his coup but at least he get rid of those farangs which must be in the thousands.

Want to reply to this post? Please mention your visa status and how long have you been in Thailand already?

You obviously have a very big chip on your shoulder and a massive "I am alright jack" attitude. Feel sorry for you and all those poor souls around you..............Non IMM 'O'

One wonders what characteristic one needs to be 'advanced' in to be awarded the title 'Advanced member' such as MobileContent - obviously nothing to do with having any regard for persons other than oneself

[Crazy chef 1]

LM is lese majeste

realy stupid coment to such a hot topic!read the OP again and think before you are posting.WE ARE GUESTS!or do you you like to get our forum closed?

[Mackie]

I really don't understand what's the fuss about this particular law. It's like any other law. You either abide by law or not. If you are stupid enough not to abide by be prepared to face the consequences. As simple as that. This law doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's up to Thais to decide whether they want to change it or not.

[rbmcn]

These are serious Thai matters. Most of those who read and post here are guests of this country. It is unseemly, ungrateful and downright offensive for guests to interfere or criticise their hosts. This is not a matter of free speech but one of common decency and respect.

[ggt]

Not allowed to post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, or Thai people...and especially...the King...

[celso]

These are serious Thai matters. Most of those who read and post here are guests of this country. It is unseemly, ungrateful and downright offensive for guests to interfere or criticise their hosts. This is not a matter of free speech but one of common decency and respect.

I agree. Unless we are criticising Thai person Thaksin, Yingluck, the red shirts. Then it is completely okay to interfere.

[jeanno]

i hope for u they won t pass a law against a.......

[dunque]

Isn’t life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

Yes, one feature of dictatorships is their relaxed border controls.

[PadHopper]

wow, what year is this?

Please remember on the internet we all have IP address'd that can be traced back to the person sending the letter

In the pater 1 month ago was some idiot who threaten some one and last week he was traced and charged

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

have you never heard of server proxy's?

many ISP's use server proxy's and IP routers, it would also be a hard thing to prove, as

A) There are many people posting from outside of Thailand, and are not residents or have resident status, so they're not in the country to break that country's laws.

many establishments have single IP's and then use an Intranet system where there can be up to 100 users on that IP, schools and universities being prime examples

VPN FTW

[umbanda]

I hope foreigners understand that its are guest here, and the Thai culture, economy, and social reality, have nothing in common with most of the western countries. With a very small territory and enormous population, Thai Government is totally right imposing limits to the right of foreigners, specially in the work place and in the land ownership. Foreigners trying to get around these limitations, are not making any favor to the ones living here respecting the Thai laws and rules....and may give reasons for the Government be even more restricted and vigilant.

[Andre0720]

Isn’t life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

With respect, if you dislike the laws so much, why not leave?

With respect,

Does that mean that everytime you would wish your relationships to be a tad bit better,

You simply just put an end to it???

[MaxYakov]

wow, what year is this?

Please remember on the internet we all have IP address'd that can be traced back to the person sending the letter

In the pater 1 month ago was some idiot who threaten some one and last week he was traced and charged

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

have you never heard of server proxy's?

many ISP's use server proxy's and IP routers, it would also be a hard thing to prove, as

A) There are many people posting from outside of Thailand, and are not residents or have resident status, so they're not in the country to break that country's laws.

many establishments have single IP's and then use an Intranet system where there can be up to 100 users on that IP, schools and universities being prime examples

IP-masking does not exactly cover this:

"The 2005 Emergency Decree, 2008 Internal Security Act, 2007 Computer Crimes Act and Article 112 of the Criminal Code have been used to shut down newspapers and television and radio stations, block scores of thousands of websites, imprison individuals for posting public information on websites, and hold third party web service providers criminally responsible for information posted by users of their services. Libel and defamation are offences punishable by prison sentences. Even if prosecutions are not consistently pursued, the implicit threat of imprisonment under these laws acts to create an environment of self-censorship. Amnesty International renews calls on authorities to amend these laws to conform with the government’s international legal obligations."

One can be accused of violating Thai lese majeste law even when outside the country and then arrested when entering Thailand,

Ref: Amnesty International Anniversary Article (It's amazing to me that it wasn't blocked)

[watcharacters]

These are serious Thai matters. Most of those who read and post here are guests of this country. It is unseemly, ungrateful and downright offensive for guests to interfere or criticise their hosts. This is not a matter of free speech but one of common decency and respect.

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Just curious as to what percentage of TV posters you believe to be in Thailand at any given moment.

[sonar6ca]

Isnt life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

With respect, if you dislike the laws so much, why not leave?

Right on!

[The Deerhunter]

There are many good reasons to oppose Thaksin but some of the TV PDRC supporters are coming across as pretty evil now. True colours and all that.

Hadn't noticed. However, still lots of Red violent apologist activity though, but carefull disguised as anti Coup, not pro PTP/UDD?Thaksin

[rickirs]

Well, I can appreciate the Junta's prosecution of violators of lese majesty law and coup orders as well as violators of internal security laws who will face court martial from the viewpoint of controlling the population during this "transition" period back to democracy.

But by suspending the Constitution with only the exception to Article 2 with the King as Head of State and completely disbanding all the elements of the Government (including the Independent Organizations), an accused would seem to have no rights from arbitrary and capricious prosecution. And being tried by a martial court operating under the sole legislative authority of General Prayuth might seem a conflict of interest. A better fascade of justice might be achieved if Prayuth restored the Administrative and Criminal Courts. Though if he did, it might not be surprising that he would maintain ultimate authority over any court decisions.

[Frank James]

The dialog on these forums lately has taken a really ugly tone. I find it appalling that so many farangs have come out as cheerleaders for the current "situation", and seem to be calling for the removal or even liquidation of anyone who questions or objects in any way to what is coming down. They use words like "scum" and "trash" to designate the perceived enemy. I won't bother making comparisons to other hostile takeovers than have stained human history, but there is hope in remembering that they all came to a bad end, eventually.

May it pass quickly. Pray for Thailand.

[firestar]

Then you should block ALL comments, this is discussion forum, what's the point of having Mackie and the likes posting an endless feed of cheerleading ultra-partizan posts?

[sonar6ca]

Isn’t life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

Do you know where the airport is?

[Thai at Heart]

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Not really. The BBC, CNN et al would do well to assign reporters who won't take the easy route when reporting and who would actually do an indepth analysis.

Of course. I get it now. That would be the version put forward by Suthep.

So who appointed the judges, and who made the laws and institutions through which Yingluck has been brought down. What was she guilty of again? Not corruption you will find.

Abuse of power. And what do we have now. A constitution suspended by a gun. And that isn't abuse if power?

[firestar]

Isn’t life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

Do you know where the airport is?

Are you Thai? If not why didn't you leave last year instead of voicing your opinion here?

[Suradit69]

Isn’t life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

"re-writing the draconian discriminate [sic] immigration laws."

Spoken like a true serial border runner who sees everything in terms of his own person inconvenience now that the loopholes are closing.

... and what is the coup and the imposition of martial law all about boys & girls??

[Utley]

These are serious Thai matters. Most of those who read and post here are guests of this country. It is unseemly, ungrateful and downright offensive for guests to interfere or criticise their hosts. This is not a matter of free speech but one of common decency and respect.

Most of the posters come from countries where free speech is a given. They are not disrespecting their hosts when they speak their mind, they are merely acting as if they were still at home.

Edited May 25, 2014 by Utley

[balo]

Is this the end of the world as we know it ?

[kimamey]

Lets hope the next move by the generals will be to kick out all those farangs that are here on tourist visas for for cheap pxxxs, making money without the correct visas and all those guys that do the border crossings until recently.

I notice the generals are now in charge of the police and the immigration falls under the RTP.

Lets see the wining that starts with all those farangs once their tourist visas are not renewed. I am seeing all the time the winning on TV and all I can do is at it.

I would suggest the generals the following changes to the Immigration rules so we get rid of all those Farang banocks.

2 x Tourist visas and you are out of the country for six months.

No border crossings for farangs of which the government of their country gives a negative reaction to the coup.

Foreigners that want to stay longer them one year in Thailand, should deposit 5 million Baht in a Thai bank account.

Thailand has been to nice to all those foreigners that come to Thailand for the past years, so let the generals also clean up the immigration act and put it more on par with HK, Japan, Australia, Singapore etc.

For me, I have a PR so I am not worried about it as I paid millions of Baht in taxes.

Oh yes, in regards of overstay increase the amount to 250,000 Baht or three years jail. Illegal working in Thailand 500,000 Baht or 6 years jail.

If Prayuth can do this one I might forgive him for his coup but at least he get rid of those farangs which must be in the thousands.

Want to reply to this post? Please mention your visa status and how long have you been in Thailand already?

You obviously have a very big chip on your shoulder and a massive "I am alright jack" attitude. Feel sorry for you and all those poor souls around you..............Non IMM 'O'

If I had to put 5 million in a Thai Bank account I wouldn't be able to help my wife and her family.

Non IMM based on marriage. Been coming since 2009. First four holidays and now half and half so I can earn money. May be here for longer now though.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Edited May 25, 2014 by kimamey

[Piichai]

So who appointed the judges, and who made the laws and institutions through which Yingluck has been brought down. What was she guilty of again? Not corruption you will find.

There are still cases working their way through the system.

There are still investigations ongoing.

The future does not look bright for Yingluck.