Weapons Found At Deserted Chiang Rai Hotel, Army Says

[djjamie]

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Those reds better start putting up Prayuth's poster. The hunting continues.

As in the red shirt cache and 22 arrested in Khon Kaen, it is not putting up posters. It is the majority "dobing in" the minority.

Like I said I live 100 metres from the hotel in question (it is on one of the two Khon Kaen lakes) and everyone knew what was going on in the hotel. Rest assured those people told the army.

The General wants reconciliation. The red shirt fanatical leaders have denounced division in the plea for reconciliation. 75% of the country support the coup and reconciliation.

Give up. Release your bitter view point and toxic thoughts that got the country into it's current predicament. Time to move on and forward or you will be left behind.

I give him credit for trying with the reconciliation. The scar is buried in their heart. Mark my words for it that it will be back to square one. Also, Thai economy will get worst.

75% of the country support coup? Seriously? It's probably the 1000 people Bangkok poll. Yes, you will get 75% all right.

You did so well up to when you held the majority in contempt. (That was the edited bit)

Reminds me of the red shirts threatening the farmers when they protested.

This is what the General is trying to squash.

Reconciliation is the future. Disrespecting the majority voice is a thing of the past and you need to move on mate.

[inutil]

Djjamie: Reconciliation IS the future (and should be the future). But how are you a champion of reconcilation when one side seems to be exclusively portrayed as devils whist the other is completely absolved of its sins? This isnt reconciliation. Its tyranny. Until i see you tone down your rhetoric, your attempt to portray yourself as a voice of reason and reconciliation will always be hollow and empty. Its okay though, like you say, you can be left behind with the rest of the fanatics if you like.

Edited May 31, 2014 by inutil

[rametindallas]

on that subject - anyone know the whereabouts of our dear Charlerm, I may have missed his release from custody but don't remember seeing it

I have been thinking the very same for days now.

He has gone over his 7 days detention now, and not a word has been uttered by anyone.

I have a feeling that he is in a grave situation. He is/was a very bad apple and I think most of the country were holding their breath for his fall.

Maybe Suthep beat him to death in custody

Maybe Suthep beat him to death in custody

That would, indeed, be a 'grave' situation.

[djjamie]

Djjamie: Reconciliation IS the future (and should be the future). But how are you a champion of reconcilation when one side seems to be exclusively portrayed as devils whist the other is completely absolved of its sins? This isnt reconciliation. Its tyranny. Until i see you tone down your rhetoric, your attempt to portray yourself as a voice of reason and reconciliation will always be hollow and empty. Its okay though, like you say, you can be left behind with the rest of the fanatics if you like.

I am no champion of reconciliation.

I never pushed for a "reconciliation (amnesty) bill" that nearly started a civil war. Yingluck did.

Reconciliation is not absolving yinglucks brother. It is doing exactly what the general is doing now. That is removing color coded views. That is telling Suthep indirectly not to wear military clothing to celebrate reform. That is going to the northern provinces and speaking to people and making them understand.

Yingluck, never, not once, zero, went to the South and spoke to the people. Chalerm had to be dragged to the South and it was once…He was the head of peace in the South!!!

AND 75% of the population agree with what I say.

Keep up sunshine lest you be left behind with the bitter and twisted.

Edited May 31, 2014 by djjamie

[thumper101]

Djjamie: Reconciliation IS the future (and should be the future). But how are you a champion of reconcilation when one side seems to be exclusively portrayed as devils whist the other is completely absolved of its sins? This isnt reconciliation. Its tyranny. Until i see you tone down your rhetoric, your attempt to portray yourself as a voice of reason and reconciliation will always be hollow and empty. Its okay though, like you say, you can be left behind with the rest of the fanatics if you like.

If anyone is using rhetoric, it is you and Dr Bruce.

All Jamie is pointing to is clear facts.

Also, he is right..... 75% want reconciliation and the other 25% SHOULD be wanting it.

The previous situation was only promising more division.

But you seem to be clinging on to this strange 'one side is doing this'.... which just shows that you are anything but willing to reconcile anything at all.

Let go pal... it is people with the same mindset as you who are holding this country back.... do you dislike Thailand so much??????

In a reconciliation project where division was so in your face.... of course some people have to wind in their necks and accept they are not going to have it all their way.... EG: Thaksin running the country...... That can never be allowed to happen again, because that will keep the polarisation strong and defeat the purpose of unity.

But remnants will always remain, and the minority will always scream the loudest..... give it up.... for the sake of Thailand.

[inutil]

and thats why you wont get what you want im afraid. Youre all too pigheaded to understand that reconciliation comes from shared sacrifice like every other successful peace agreement in the world. Hopefully, if the General is the hero you all portray him to be, you wont be too sad when he does what has to be done for the sake of his country.

Edited May 31, 2014 by inutil

[djjamie]

and thats why you wont get what you want im afraid. Youre all too pigheaded to understand that reconciliation comes from shared sacrifice like every other peace agreement in the world. Hopefully you wont be too sad when thailand does what has to be done.

Hang on.

Yingluck invited Blair to Thailand to talk about reconciliation. Blair said Thais should work together and build mutual trust in order to achieve reconciliation. yingluck did not listen to this advice.

Blair said reconciliation occurred when the sense of shared opportunity was greater than other issues. yingluck did not listen to this advice.

Now my favourite. Blair said democracy is not just a way of voting but also a way of thinking. Democracy is not just about how a majority takes power, it is how the majority relates to the minority. I don't need to remind you what yingluck thought of that.

Little did he know the majority are the ones against this amnesty.

And this invite for Blair cost the majority how much in tax?

Pigheaded? Nah,,, a realist that look at the PTP actions over your "beliefs"

Move forward and leave the toxic waste in the paste. Lets reconcile?

I will start by saying to you I respect your view point even if I disagree.

The Generals reconciliation plan is contagious. I have caught the bug!

Take care my friend and may peace and reconciliation be with you.

Edited May 31, 2014 by djjamie

[thumper101]

and thats why you wont get what you want im afraid. Youre all too pigheaded to understand that reconciliation comes from shared sacrifice like every other peace agreement in the world. Hopefully you wont be too sad when thailand does what has to be done.

Why choose to be cynical, so that you can call the optimists 'pig headed'?

[ikke]

Wheres the photos of the guns?, just looks like photo of

bits scrap metal.

regards Worgeordie

Right, I think this was found 30 years ago in the river Kwai area, looks like it ww2 ammunition which was many years buried

[inutil]

Then maybe theres a common ground to be found after all. You dont have to agree,I would hope that as someone with a clear love and passion for the country that all the faults do not lie in the hands of one man, and that there are bigger issues and problems (longstanding) facing Thailand.

However on your case in point, can i remind you that as a party with not only a majority in parliament as well as the political nuos to bring on board remnants of the old TRT party to consolidate her power, there was absolutely no obligation at all for PTP to suppose that they had no mandate to enact legislation. They won an outright majority in the elections, and with the support of smaller parties absolutely commanded the lower house. Would Reagan in 85 or Thatcher in 82 have been castigated for pushing through their legislative programs too with such a mandate? Would they have been told to calm it down and compromise with the opposition? Of course not. Its a mandate. Indeed its due to the mandate that the house of lords rescinded its veto power in the UK to the house of commons on acts of parliament and finally became the second chamber.

Blair is a pragmatist. I dont hate him. I like him. But he was also very quick to trample on the old hard left of his own party. If they wanted power, they had to accept the market. The party had elected him overwhlemingly as its leader and clause 4 was a barrier to their electoral success so it was absolutely written out of the history of the 'new labour' party. He wasnt entirely keen on compromising with the minority. Blair means the centerist majority ultimately (the old consensus). That was his (incredibly successful) political strategy. Those on the hard left and right be damned. Rightly so! But dont take this for some kind of adoration for JS Mill and the tyranny of the majority. It isnt. Its ideological centerism. Its the free market with an alleged social conscience. Its not a big tent of dispirate groups. Its why power in the blair years became ever more centralised in the office of PM and the collective responsibility of cabinet was routinely undermined. In Blair the British power in the parliamentary system (executive power) moved from the cabinet (of which the PM was mostly the figurehead - and the driving force, but not the decider a la bush), into the office of the prime minster. His appearance at cabinet meetings was sporadic, and often meetings would be completely dominated by decisions already made in the PM office. These were huge changes to the executive that linger on today. So not exactly the best person to speak of listening to all voices if im honest.

Back to the point though, crushing electoral victories are important bell-weathers of political change and should be respected. Calls for compromise in those circumstances (or worse yet, protesting that they should dare enact legislation and vote for it) are ridiculous and show a poor understanding of one of the fundamental and guiding principals of democracy: namely the mandate. Were thatcher to have accepted your claims, then her and Michael Foot would have spent the afternoons discussing policy and the way forward for the good of all people. Now thatcher and Michael Foot, (or Raegan/Dukakis), working together to create policy... theyd still be there to this day.

That being said, the way PTP TRIED to pass the amnesty was foolish (and possibly unconstitutuonal, but thats what the court is for after all - to interpret legilsation and make sense of the unworkeable pigs ear that parliament often sends it). They should have tried to pass it in a normal session of parliament. If the thai people didnt like it they could have simply told their MP that theyd be deselected or theyd vote against them in the future. Such is the nature of a representative democratic process. This isnt a party list (well, accept those on the er, party list - part PR and all that). MPs should be accountable to their constituents at all times, and not just once every four years (see the numbers of democrat senators/representatives who refuse to vote against pro-second amendment legislation for an example) and if they currently arent (and im no Thai legal specialist) then this would be a positive reform to make in the future.

So if you do want to talk about a way forward and blow less hot air, im obviously all ears. That being said, you and i wont solve the problems of Thailand even if anyone was listening. But your interjections do more often than not alienate the people you pretend youre trying to 'win over' and i would hope youd have the foresight to realise the harm youre doing to your position by the manner in which you deliver your message. Then again, im a genuine Blairite, so i do live in a fascist center ground a bit.

And genuinely, i hope you live in bureaucratic times.

Edited May 31, 2014 by inutil

[MMarlow]

Well, that was lucky. Could it be they're receiving tips?

"Maj.Gen. Pattana Martmongkol said local authorities received reports of a potential arms stash..."

Whatever gave you that idea?

[surangw]

how long before most of it goes missing?

[djjamie]

Then maybe theres a common ground to be found after all. You dont have to agree,I would hope that as someone with a clear love and passion for the country that all the faults do not lie in the hands of one man, and that there are bigger issues and problems (longstanding) facing Thailand.

However on your case in point, can i remind you that as a party with not only a majority in parliament as well as the political nuos to bring on board remnants of the old TRT party to consolidate her power, there was absolutely no obligation at all for PTP to suppose that they had no mandate to enact legislation. They won an outright majority in the elections, and with the support of smaller parties absolutely commanded the lower house. Would Reagan in 85 or Thatcher in 82 have been castigated for pushing through their legislative programs too with such a mandate? Would they have been told to calm it down and compromise with the opposition? Of course not. Its a mandate. Indeed its due to the mandate that the house of lords rescinded its veto power in the UK to the house of commons on acts of parliament and finally became the second chamber.

Blair is a pragmatist. I dont hate him. I like him. But he was also very quick to trample on the old hard left of his own party. If they wanted power, they had to accept the market. The party had elected him overwhlemingly as its leader and clause 4 was a barrier to their electoral success so it was absolutely written out of the history of the 'new labour' party. He wasnt entirely keen on compromising with the minority. Blair means the centerist majority ultimately (the old consensus). That was his (incredibly successful) political strategy. Those on the hard left and right be damned. Rightly so! But dont take this for some kind of adoration for JS Mill and the tyranny of the majority. It isnt. Its ideological centerism. Its the free market with an alleged social conscience. Its not a big tent of dispirate groups. Its why power in the blair years became ever more centralised in the office of PM and the collective responsibility of cabinet was routinely undermined. In Blair the British power in the parliamentary system (executive power) moved from the cabinet (of which the PM was mostly the figurehead - and the driving force, but not the decider a la bush), into the office of the prime minster. His appearance at cabinet meetings was sporadic, and often meetings would be completely dominated by decisions already made in the PM office. These were huge changes to the executive that linger on today. So not exactly the best person to speak of listening to all voices if im honest.

Back to the point though, crushing electoral victories are important bell-weathers of political change and should be respected. Calls for compromise in those circumstances (or worse yet, protesting that they should dare enact legislation and vote for it) are ridiculous and show a poor understanding of one of the fundamental and guiding principals of democracy: namely the mandate. Were thatcher to have accepted your claims, then her and Michael Foot would have spent the afternoons discussing policy and the way forward for the good of all people. Now thatcher and Michael Foot, (or Raegan/Dukakis), working together to create policy... theyd still be there to this day.

That being said, the way PTP TRIED to pass the amnesty was foolish (and possibly unconstitutuonal, but thats what the court is for after all - to interpret legilsation and make sense of the unworkeable pigs ear that parliament often sends it). They should have tried to pass it in a normal session of parliament. If the thai people didnt like it they could have simply told their MP that theyd be deselected or theyd vote against them in the future. Such is the nature of a representative democratic process. This isnt a party list (well, accept those on the er, party list - part PR and all that). MPs should be accountable to their constituents at all times, and not just once every four years (see the numbers of democrat senators/representatives who refuse to vote against pro-second amendment legislation for an example) and if they currently arent (and im no Thai legal specialist) then this would be a positive reform to make in the future.

So if you do want to talk about a way forward and blow less hot air, im obviously all ears. That being said, you and i wont solve the problems of Thailand even if anyone was listening. But your interjections do more often than not alienate the people you pretend youre trying to 'win over' and i would hope youd have the foresight to realise the harm youre doing to your position by the manner in which you deliver your message. Then again, im a genuine Blairite, so i do live in a fascist center ground a bit.

And genuinely, i hope you live in bureaucratic times.

"Blair is a pragmatist. I dont hate him. I like him."

I don't care what you think of him. You were not the Thai PM.

Yingluck was. She invited him on tax payers money to discuss reconciliation.

​She didn't listen to him because it did not suit her agenda.

The General is not suiting any agenda. The tax payers are not being treated with contempt when he says what he says.

​Under Yingluck the tax payers were. Under yingluck the majority were ignored. yingluck said to the majority to listen to what Baliar said because she invited him and he was thaksins mate. When he said something that did not suit the agenda it was ignored…Just like the majority that did not want the amnesty.

Move forward my friend. Time to leave the bitter and toxic waste in the paste.

​Reconcilliation is the way forward….Move with it.

Edited May 31, 2014 by djjamie

[bangrak]

No ID card?

No, the owner needed it to leave fast to Cambodia together with some other local friends of 'red democracy', I presume... ;-))

[bangrak]

Wheres the photos of the guns?, just looks like photo of

bits scrap metal.

regards Worgeordie

How do you want to have some 'bits' of that 'scrap metal' delivered to you at supersonic speed? Cause that's what they're made for: to kill and wound, and, when you'd ignore it, one doesn't own such things just to go hunting on pheasants or decorate the mantelpiece! Get a life!

[bangrak]

Wheres the photos of the guns?, just looks like photo of

bits scrap metal.

regards Worgeordie

Right, I think this was found 30 years ago in the river Kwai area, looks like it ww2 ammunition which was many years buried

You're obviouly an expert in weaponry, and I thank you for your professional information. Are you so sure of yourself you would accept any of this ammunition to be shot at you? Hmm?

[bangrak]

and thats why you wont get what you want im afraid. Youre all too pigheaded to understand that reconciliation comes from shared sacrifice like every other successful peace agreement in the world. Hopefully, if the General is the hero you all portray him to be, you wont be too sad when he does what has to be done for the sake of his country.

'inutil'(e), like useless? Wouldn't 'ignorant', like clueless have better covered the content, or the lack of it? Hmm, not sure, think about it. LOL

[JAG]

No ID card?

Not even a red baseball cap mate!

[Lite Beer]

Weapons found in North
The Sunday Nation

War weapons were discovered in an abandoned hotel in Chiang Rai's Phan district, Chiang Rai Army Area commander said yesterday.

In "Reung Samran" in tambon Muang Phan, authorities found 34 rounds of ammunition, four grenades, a smoke bomb, two sticks of TNT explosive and an M79 grenade - all of which were reportedly in ready-to-use condition.

They were found in the ceiling, Maj-General Pattana Martmongkol told a press conference, adding that the haul was taken to the Army's Meng Rai Maharat Camp.

Pattana said the Army suspected that an unknown person tried to hide the weapons after becoming scared when the National Council for Peace and Order called for handing in of war weapons and carried out stricter surveillance.

The hotel has been closed since 1997.

-- The Nation 2014-06-01

[NongKhaiKid]

on that subject - anyone know the whereabouts of our dear Charlerm, I may have missed his release from custody but don't remember seeing it

I read some were that he and his suns are still under arrest, sorry that I don´t remember were.

If he's still in custody I pity those detailed to guard him as he'll be talking non-stop telling them who he is and just what he'll do when he gets out.

The guards will need real ear medicine.

[FangFerang]

Yeah, yeah -- it's either a stupid inventory control manager or, less likely, a plant to show the red army is rag tag at best.

Khaosad and the Nation have different lists of what was found, and which is no surprise. Getting to the truth of things in Thailand is like trying to extract an elephant molar with an ice pick, a midget assistant, and no anesthetic.

If bad management: what idiot leaves arms behind during a coup? And what about the kids in the neighborhood playing in abandoned buildings? Look what I found Mommy!

If planted: a dozen M16s, 1000 rounds of ammo, and a few claymores would make the people hate and laugh at the reds a good bit more.

Amazing Thailand.

Idiots in either case.

Edited June 1, 2014 by FangFerang

[pitchag]

Those .50 cal bullets look too old to risk firing them, I would not really call this a significant cache I have collector friends in Aussie that have a lot more in their legal collections

[fab4]

and thats why you wont get what you want im afraid. Youre all too pigheaded to understand that reconciliation comes from shared sacrifice like every other peace agreement in the world. Hopefully you wont be too sad when thailand does what has to be done.

Hang on.

Yingluck invited Blair to Thailand to talk about reconciliation. Blair said Thais should work together and build mutual trust in order to achieve reconciliation. yingluck did not listen to this advice.

Blair said reconciliation occurred when the sense of shared opportunity was greater than other issues. yingluck did not listen to this advice.

Now my favourite. Blair said democracy is not just a way of voting but also a way of thinking. Democracy is not just about how a majority takes power, it is how the majority relates to the minority. I don't need to remind you what yingluck thought of that.

Little did he know the majority are the ones against this amnesty.

And this invite for Blair cost the majority how much in tax?

Pigheaded? Nah,,, a realist that look at the PTP actions over your "beliefs"

Move forward and leave the toxic waste in the paste. Lets reconcile?

I will start by saying to you I respect your view point even if I disagree.

The Generals reconciliation plan is contagious. I have caught the bug!

Take care my friend and may peace and reconciliation be with you.

The Generals reconciliation plan is contagious. I have caught the bug!

You have a strange way of showing it

Do you really want to leave the future of Thailand in the hands of the below.*

Educate the below *. Apart from the terrorist element amongst them they are hard working, honest yet simple uneducated and gullible folk. They need our pity and funding for education to break this cycle of dictatorial abuse of power under a guise of democracy. The buffalo deserve to break the cycle of perpetual poverty through unsustainable hand outs the PTP have made them accustomed too.

* "the below" refers to an offensive image of red water buffalo attached to the post which I refuse to recreate

The below * are the ones that need to be educated. I truly respect them, but they need to understand that democracy only flourishes under an educated populous. They don;t understand that yet. That is why reform is needed.

I love them. I respect them. I am married to one of them. I taught her democracy and she appreciates it. She learnt that the PTP are 1 principle supporters now. I want the red shirts to be educated, but alas the UDD would prefer to put a gun in their hands and send them onto a dictatorial battlefield. That is a Maoist theory the UDD leadership have learnt and will pass onto the gullible. I pity them.

* again "the below" refers to an offensive image of red water buffalo

Recognise those words? You should, you wrote them.

Apart from the sheer arrogance, I love them. I respect them. I am married to one of them. I taught her democracy and she appreciates it, your attitude towards a large section of the Thai community, the ones you profess to readily want to reconciliate with, is breathtakingly patronising, hostile and ignorant to the extreme.

Move forward and leave the toxic waste in the past?

I'm sorry, it will follow you around, no matter how many ersatz " I have seen the light" declarations you make.

Edited June 1, 2014 by fab4

[wprime]

on that subject - anyone know the whereabouts of our dear Charlerm, I may have missed his release from custody but don't remember seeing it

I read some were that he and his suns are still under arrest, sorry that I don´t remember were.

If he's still in custody I pity those detailed to guard him as he'll be talking non-stop telling them who he is and just what he'll do when he gets out.

The guards will need real ear medicine.

Who knows, he might turn into a reasonable individual when he's off the booze.

[mikemac]

Exhibit #9 looks like a certain "accessory" a lady might keep in a bedside drawer.

[taony]

Three guns?

-*I typed this myself*-

With all due respect, what does that have to do with anything?

Because all these articles, which are announcements from..., are supposed to be convincing us what a wonderful job they are doing at preventing an insurrection. With their capture of weapons "caches" and "weapons of war". How are three guns going to supply a rebel army? And if I am not reading the article wrong, the ammunition found isn't even for the guns that were found.

[mikemac]

More damning evidence that the ThaiRouge are nothing more than the PTP's militia group. But I am sure red fans will have a way of getting around this latest incident.

Regarding very funny post # 55 -

................"Apart from the sheer arrogance".....................

Coming from an arrogant poster like yourself, that is one of the funniest posts I have read in ages. Keep em coming pippy fabio, seems like comedy is all you are allowed to post for now !

Edited June 1, 2014 by mikemac

[djjamie]

Hang on.

Yingluck invited Blair to Thailand to talk about reconciliation. Blair said Thais should work together and build mutual trust in order to achieve reconciliation. yingluck did not listen to this advice.

Blair said reconciliation occurred when the sense of shared opportunity was greater than other issues. yingluck did not listen to this advice.

Now my favourite. Blair said democracy is not just a way of voting but also a way of thinking. Democracy is not just about how a majority takes power, it is how the majority relates to the minority. I don't need to remind you what yingluck thought of that.

Little did he know the majority are the ones against this amnesty.

And this invite for Blair cost the majority how much in tax?

Pigheaded? Nah,,, a realist that look at the PTP actions over your "beliefs"

Move forward and leave the toxic waste in the paste. Lets reconcile?

I will start by saying to you I respect your view point even if I disagree.

The Generals reconciliation plan is contagious. I have caught the bug!

Take care my friend and may peace and reconciliation be with you.

The Generals reconciliation plan is contagious. I have caught the bug!

You have a strange way of showing it

Do you really want to leave the future of Thailand in the hands of the below.*

Educate the below *. Apart from the terrorist element amongst them they are hard working, honest yet simple uneducated and gullible folk. They need our pity and funding for education to break this cycle of dictatorial abuse of power under a guise of democracy. The buffalo deserve to break the cycle of perpetual poverty through unsustainable hand outs the PTP have made them accustomed too.

* "the below" refers to an offensive image of red water buffalo attached to the post which I refuse to recreate

The below * are the ones that need to be educated. I truly respect them, but they need to understand that democracy only flourishes under an educated populous. They don;t understand that yet. That is why reform is needed.

I love them. I respect them. I am married to one of them. I taught her democracy and she appreciates it. She learnt that the PTP are 1 principle supporters now. I want the red shirts to be educated, but alas the UDD would prefer to put a gun in their hands and send them onto a dictatorial battlefield. That is a Maoist theory the UDD leadership have learnt and will pass onto the gullible. I pity them.

* again "the below" refers to an offensive image of red water buffalo

Recognise those words? You should, you wrote them.

Apart from the sheer arrogance, I love them. I respect them. I am married to one of them. I taught her democracy and she appreciates it, your attitude towards a large section of the Thai community, the ones you profess to readily want to reconciliate with, is breathtakingly patronising, hostile and ignorant to the extreme.

Move forward and leave the toxic waste in the past?

I'm sorry, it will follow you around, no matter how many ersatz " I have seen the light" declarations you make.

I am honored you went to the trouble of looking up my post. You are quite correct. 68% of the people in Isan have completed less than 7 years of formal education.

On Topic again - Rest assured this weapons cache will be added to the list (Schindler's list if you will) and now the other news story has broke about the weapons cache and people caught in Khon Kaen I can tell you that that one will be added as well. I could not tell you about that one before when you replied with condescending remarks because no news stations reported it and my wife (that I taught democracy to) made it very clear not to bring it up on any social media until it was reported.

The list is growing my friend. (notice I didn't belittle, demonize or be condescending to you?) I have caught the reconciliation bug….That's why!!!

Edited June 1, 2014 by djjamie

[mikemac]

Don't read too much into it djjamie, the fact that fabio went to the trouble of looking up your post. He is frustrated at the moment because if he posts his usual red tripe he is afraid he will hear a knock on the door. So he is digging up the dirt on you and anyone else who dares to disagree with him. Uncle Rubl will probably be next.

I noticed a poster commenting on the fact that it was only a small amount of arms. In the hands of dangerous terrorists, any amount is too much.

[srsv1238]

They are must likely planting the stuff themselves to make themselves look good.

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