Gen. Chadchai discusses action plan for Thai water and flood management projects

[seajae]

There seems to be a lot of ignorance about the skills and experience in the Junta. If there is one thing that military are good at, apart from the soldiering - its all the engineering and infrastructure jobs.

I guess I'd like to hear more about specifics. Can you share any details re: the Thai Military's experience, good or bad, specifically with large engineering and infrastructure jobs?

Also, note that said Deputy economic chief Gen. Chatchai Sarikalaya is also responsible for financial institutions, industry, information and communication technology, agriculture and natural resources, so am anxious to hear what other things the Military are good at, besides soldiering and digging latrines?

here we have another ignoramus that knows absolutely nothing about the military and gets around it by making a complete fool of himself. You really need to read more and not just look at the pictures in books, maybe when you grow up you will be capable of associating with adults and being able to understand what we are all talking about but you really need to stop taking any notice of those "red" cheat sheets. Only a dumb ass would have no idea on the schooling/study requirements of an officer plus all the various operations they are responsible for in the running of the countries miltary, unlike you, they do have a brain to utilize, they dont need the sign that says, "take foot and place firmly in mouth" , enjoy..

Edited June 10, 2014 by seajae

[belg]

those the army have a genie devision, not in a bottle, but a real civil construction team ?

or only little green men with guns ?

[crobe]

A lot of high ranking soldiers from the Junta reviewing large infrastructure plans and development projects I would presume these people have absolutely no idea what they are looking at and are completely unqualified to manage such high profile many billions of Baht projects, and are more used to shouting at soldiers to march and turn left and turn right.

Shouldn't be that difficult. Just juggle around the previous modules, re-set the time frame, call it differently and called them your own. No need to re-invent the wheel.

It may need a bit more juggling

I was doubtful on the capabilities of the information and forecasting system as this was not transparent as to how they were going to analyse the data, incorporate meteo data and flood hazard mapping etc. but it seemed to be a done deal as the company (Loxley) were closely connected to the government.

This may all change now and with the external agencies such as Met Bureau and GISTDA involved this 3.99Bn baht module may get re-assessed.

[Artisi]

A lot of high ranking soldiers from the Junta reviewing large infrastructure plans and development projects I would presume these people have absolutely no idea what they are looking at and are completely unqualified to manage such high profile many billions of Baht projects, and are more used to shouting at soldiers to march and turn left and turn right.

But maybe more idea than the previous useless and corrupt idiots called a government trying to run the country into the ground with their own self interests.

[lungmi]

In the mean time I'm waiting in near breathless anticipation for the explanation which no doubt will both be noteworthy and near priceless, lifting me out of a drab lifestyle of mangling English.

OK I'll humour you. If you didn't mean to imply that "Yingluck c.s. were more interested in the extra 350 billion Baht plans rather than the normal, ongoing activities" there would have been no need to say anything about it.

It's your normal style of writing - implying something, but supposedly "disguising" what you really meant by pretending it never crossed your mind, a kind of sarcasm if you like.

Here's your post

Must be a difficult job with the previous administration having been so 'indecisive'. Maybe Yingluck c.s. were more interested in the extra 350 billion Baht plans rather than the normal, ongoing activities ?

You qualify the first part of the post that states the previous administration was indecisive by suggesting it was because they were more interested in the extra 350 billion. You have nothing to base that suggestion on but you still make the comment as if you do know.

As for your drab lifestyle , nothing much I can do about that I'm afraid.

Having gone full circle now, may I wonder what you meant with your

"Now you can see why he was put in charge of Thai Water and flood management project's action plan."

I'm sure you had no intention to imply something as if it would never cross your mind, now had you?

BTW you should be more attentive. If you had been, you'd noticed that the Yingluck government surely hadn't been indecisive regarding the 350 billion baht special budget. They even had a special decree January 2012 to allow them to borrow 350 billion Baht very urgently. If only those pesky courts hadn't blocked signing of contract and agreed with various pressure groups (i.e. Thai people whose life might be effected by the plans) and insisted on proper involvement of locals and real Environmental Impact studies. If the government had been able to, those 350 billion would have been dividedallocated to projects contracted before you could say the words "farmers need to be paid".

PS somewhat disappointed your explanation doesn't really offer me a chance to learn something about the English language. Mind you I think I can correct an error all by myself. The "in anticipation for" should probably be "in anticipation of"

Well, if only you had paid attention you would have realised I was giving you a lesson in semantics.

A shyster gives teaching of "semantics"?

[northernjohn]

He also urged the officials to be ready for the rainy season.

Now you can see why he was put in charge of Thai Water and flood management project's action plan.

He had no choice. They are still using the same knuckle heads that your friends were using so they have to be told that. Most of them have to be retrained after lunch. Give the new Government time they will get rid of the bone heads and replace them with people who don't have to be told to do their job.

You have to learn to have patience. It will eliminate a lot of the egg on your face.

[tim armstrong]

There seems to be a lot of ignorance about the skills and experience in the Junta. If there is one thing that military are good at, apart from the soldiering - its all the engineering and infrastructure jobs.

I guess I'd like to hear more about specifics. Can you share any details re: the Thai Military's experience, good or bad, specifically with large engineering and infrastructure jobs?

Also, note that said Deputy economic chief Gen. Chatchai Sarikalaya is also responsible for financial institutions, industry, information and communication technology, agriculture and natural resources, so am anxious to hear what other things the Military are good at, besides soldiering and digging latrines?

Yes I can. In East Timor, now Timor Leste, where I worked for 5 years, the Thai army, the Portuguese, and later the Japanese military rebuilt the main arterial roads after Indonesian supported guerillas had destroyed them and left. The Thais were chosen for their engineering expertise after some other countries failed to successfully rebuild a number of bridges. In some remote eastern districts Thai soldiers working on engineering projects, voluntarily showed local people how to grow rice and vegetables in drought conditions.

They also renewed many klms of powerlines that had been stolen, in several districts. As well, for several years the main UN hospital in the country was managed and staffed by Thais under Thai military direction. They were by far the best health providers and frequently went outside their role of servicing UN staff to provide medical treatments for non UN and Timorese people alike.

They were sorely missed when their UN involvement finished, as their professionalism, openness and sense of fun was a real tonic to a country that had lost nearly one quarter of its population, through war and torture.

[chainarong]

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Here's a dream: How about doing an experiment in government by making the entire process of this plan open and transparent? All plans, bids, payments, progress etc on a public web site so that the people can see what happens? If they did such a thing, I might even give them the benefit of the doubt and believe they do want to fight corruption. Wake me in time for dinner.

Transparency can only be achieved by placing all tenders in the Saturday Papers ,1: the latest tenders ,open for submissions 2:those that have submitted a tender and how much and the 3: The successful tender

[fab4]

A shyster gives teaching of "semantics"?

have you nothing better to do?

[fab4]

He also urged the officials to be ready for the rainy season.

Now you can see why he was put in charge of Thai Water and flood management project's action plan.

He had no choice. They are still using the same knuckle heads that your friends were using so they have to be told that. Most of them have to be retrained after lunch. Give the new Government time they will get rid of the bone heads and replace them with people who don't have to be told to do their job.

You have to learn to have patience. It will eliminate a lot of the egg on your face.

Oh don't worry, eventually, when all this nonsense is over, it won't be me with egg on his face