Lite Beer Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 PHEU THAI PARTYCharupong quits as Pheu Thai leaderThe Nation BANGKOK: -- Charupong Ruangsuwan has resigned as leader of the Pheu Thai Party, with effect from May 22 - the day the Pheu Thai-led government was ousted in a military coup.The party received Charupong's resignation letter last Monday and informed the Political Party Registrar of his decision to step down the following day, Pheu Thai's caretaker deputy secretary-general Chavalit Vichayasuthi said.Charupong has been on the run, refusing to respond to a summons issued by the junta.Chavalit said that with the party leader's resignation, other executives of the party now stood to lose their position automatically.He went on to say that Pheu Thai had not been able to hold a general meeting to elect a new executive board as the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) had issued an order on June 7 banning all activities by political parties.Deputy party leaders Viroj Pao-in and Plodprasop Suraswadi will now take over as acting co-leaders in accordance with an earlier resolution made by the board in the event a party leader quits, Chavalit said.He went on to say that leading Pheu Thai figures, namely Viroj, secretary-general Phumtham Vechayachai, and legal expert Chusak Sirinil, met with the NCPO working group at Defence Ministry yesterday to discuss national reforms.Chavalit said the discussion went "very well", adding that the party was even given the chance to offer some advice. He said Pheu Thai was ready to cooperate on efforts for national reconciliation and unity.At the meeting, Pheu Thai members suggested that a democratic Constitution be reinstated, a reform council comprising experts from different fields be set up and that the public be allowed to help solve the country's problem, including corruption, Chavalit said. -- The Nation 2014-06-21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 so long as dinosaurs like Chevalit, who along with the desert prince are poster boys for corruption, nepotism and all that is wrong with the present political mess, remain active, it's hard to see any real improvement. Speaking of Chevalit, wasn't the blue diamond affair back in the news again recently? Readers of Thai dailies in the 90's might remember a picture of Chevalit's wife wearing some interesting jewellery. Sad the way the affair has been twisted by insinsere politicos to finger those that can't defend themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WitawatWatawit Posted June 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2014 Ahhh ... jaidam! Wrong Chavalit (Chevalit to you) me old sausage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I remember reading that once the army made the coup that all politcal parties were disbanded and no longer valid. So for the leader to quit is irrelevant since there has not been a PTP since the coup. What surprises me was that the army has failed to capture Chevalit yet. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Rumours of Sanoh pulling his faction out of PT and moving over to a new party that's about to be formed. Also a lot of PT pollies have been forced to return to their old professions to earn a crust (not all had their snouts in the trough) - so I wonder if they will be like the first pollies (from TRT) to be banned for 5 years, many of whom decided not to return to politics when the ban ended. That would further weaken PT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Ahh ... thesetat2013! It's Chavalit, not Chevalit. And it's Charupong on the run, not Chavalit. Me old sausage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 "Pheu Thai members suggested......... solve the country's problem, including corruption," Problem, singular not plural? Perhaps a typo, or perhaps more obfuscation; trying to make out that it is simply a matter of electoral reform and a little bit of corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Interesting, "reform council",wasn't that suggested back in December by the ex government? That said, what is the difference between an unelected "reform council" and an unelected "people's council"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumper101 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Another rat jumps ship..... I think he knows that PTP is on the verge of being dissolved anyway. Just like TRT and PPP..... Thaksin just can't keep a puppet party rooted for more than a few years at a time. Once this interim government are in place in September and the senate are sitting again, I would imagine that a certain 308 banning orders will be issued and a dissolution order forthcoming. Wonder how the senate will look after this... when the senate was dissolved, does that mean all senators are now released from their seats?..... If yes, then it may need new senate elections and appointees. Even with an interim government, there still needs to be an upper house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted June 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2014 "Pheu Thai members suggested......... solve the country's problem, including corruption," Problem, singular not plural? Perhaps a typo, or perhaps more obfuscation; trying to make out that it is simply a matter of electoral reform and a little bit of corruption. they still don't get it do they after repeatedly causing this absolute debacle in the first place they now have the cheek to offer solutions to Prayuth and the Thai people (deleted) (deleted) They just don't seem to realise that they are the actual problem and I find that disturbing - another reason to ban the lot of them for life - pending convictions for all wrong doings 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iancnx Posted June 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2014 Life bans are the only way to quickly rid Thai Politics of the dinosaurs from both sides. The 5 year type clearly didn't work! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 What happened to the party spokesman, Prompong? Is he finally serving his sentence...?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 At the meeting, Pheu Thai members suggested that a democratic Constitution be reinstated, a reform council comprising experts from different fields be set up and that the public be allowed to help solve the country's problem, including corruption, Chavalit said. Great! They are all gonna resign and leave politics forever . . . corruption problem solved 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 A seems division appear in PTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "Pheu Thai members suggested......... solve the country's problem, including corruption," Problem, singular not plural? Perhaps a typo, or perhaps more obfuscation; trying to make out that it is simply a matter of electoral reform and a little bit of corruption. they still don't get it do they after repeatedly causing this absolute debacle in the first place they now have the cheek to offer solutions to Prayuth and the Thai people (deleted) (deleted) They just don't seem to realise that they are the actual problem and I find that disturbing - another reason to ban the lot of them for life - pending convictions for all wrong doings The actual problem are the key words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Life bans are the only way to quickly rid Thai Politics of the dinosaurs from both sides. The 5 year type clearly didn't work! It certainly didn't they just returned back as members , the Rottweiler is a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 "The party received Charupong's resignation letter last Monday (16th of June). Resignation effective 22nd of May." I guess the party didn't really miss their party 'leader' or notice he was AWOL for three weeks, what with the real one skyping in from abroad? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted June 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2014 I agree with the poster who suggested life bans for these political dinosaurs, and it should include their proxies as well. Chavalit, Chalerm, Sanoh, Suthep, Newin, Charupong, Banharn, Plod etc are indicative with what is wrong with Thai politics. It's actually quite pleasant at e moment not having to hear these idiots spouting BS in the news. Any news on Chalerm, is he still detained? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 so long as dinosaurs like Chevalit, who along with the desert prince are poster boys for corruption, nepotism and all that is wrong with the present political mess, remain active, it's hard to see any real improvement. Speaking of Chevalit, wasn't the blue diamond affair back in the news again recently? Readers of Thai dailies in the 90's might remember a picture of Chevalit's wife wearing some interesting jewellery. Sad the way the affair has been twisted by insinsere politicos to finger those that can't defend themselves. You realize that the one you're talking about is Chavalit Yongchaiyudh who is a different person from Pheu Thai's caretaker deputy secretary-general Chavalit Vichayasuthi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ahhh ... jaidam! Wrong Chavalit (Chevalit to you) me old sausage. It is SO nice to hear the opinions of a farang on a farang forum -- and many more like you since December. Welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 "At the meeting, Pheu Thai members suggested that a democratic Constitution be reinstated, a reform council comprising experts from different fields be set up and that the public be allowed to help solve the country's problem, including corruption, Chavalit said." Erm, isn't that close to what suthep was banging on about? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 "Pheu Thai members suggested......... solve the country's problem, including corruption," Problem, singular not plural? Perhaps a typo, or perhaps more obfuscation; trying to make out that it is simply a matter of electoral reform and a little bit of corruption. they still don't get it do they after repeatedly causing this absolute debacle in the first place they now have the cheek to offer solutions to Prayuth and the Thai people (deleted) (deleted) They just don't seem to realise that they are the actual problem and I find that disturbing - another reason to ban the lot of them for life - pending convictions for all wrong doings "They just don't seem to realise that they are the actual problem" Really? So Thaksin invented the Golden Triangle opium dealers, human trafficking, and sundry other forms of corruption... Really? You give him too much credit. His greatest mistake, I believe, was in using democracy to fight the aristocracy. It set the whole country at each other's throats, and the clock cannot be turned back, no matter how many free movie tickets are given away. The game has changed, and both teams are unwilling to acknowledge that because the game is still a game that has no referees. Now there is no rice-pledging scheme, there is a per-rai subsidy to offset costs. Now there is no vote buying, because there are no votes, but in buying people I have to wonder: what about Prince Narusean movie tickets (no one mentions how much THAT cost -- the entertainment people are not going to walk away from money), Now there is tranquility progress. Now we have free water and concerts for illegal Cambodians -- simply because they are really cheap labor -- no permits, paperwork or taxes...simple. Both sides are using the exact same strategies to manipulate people for the exact same reasons. It is the same in Europe and America. The same kinds of failures, the same kinds of deadlocks. The Thai version of a power struggle is no more evil, nor less evil than all the other power struggles going on in the world. I think what really pisses off the Western world is that Thailand can be bought -- but only by Thais. This is a matter of great joy to me. The Great Man said "Thailand is for Thais". General Prayuth O-cha and the reviled ex PM Mr Thaksin: screw the foreign critics. Play their game, but do not let them in your house. Work with them, but never trust them. Talk to them, but remember their words are almost always lies in honest clothing. Be friendly to them, but do not offer your daughters. Keep your house clean, so your children are not sick. This is my prayer for you. Amazing Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 'Pheu Thai leader'......... LOL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Yes, the never ending PTP comedy of errors, corruption, malfeasance and stupidity rolls on. Tida posted on her facebook that she had underestimated General Prayuth....well well well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted June 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2014 Why do we political parties at all? Why do we need a government? It would be a step back. General P seems to be doing a much better job than any administration. I am not looking forward to elections and the great leap backwards again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Now, if half of bureaucrats would be relieved of their jobs, how much in salaries would that save the Thai coffers? While were at it, halve military budget, and halve handouts to universities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimat Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Thaksin's " greatest mistake, I believe, was in using democracy to fight the aristocracy." ??? You mean subverting/perverting democracy, don't you? Because paying for votes is, most definitely, a subversion, and/or perversion, of democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 "Pheu Thai members suggested......... solve the country's problem, including corruption," Problem, singular not plural? Perhaps a typo, or perhaps more obfuscation; trying to make out that it is simply a matter of electoral reform and a little bit of corruption. they still don't get it do they after repeatedly causing this absolute debacle in the first place they now have the cheek to offer solutions to Prayuth and the Thai people (deleted) (deleted) They just don't seem to realise that they are the actual problem and I find that disturbing - another reason to ban the lot of them for life - pending convictions for all wrong doings "They just don't seem to realise that they are the actual problem" Really? So Thaksin invented the Golden Triangle opium dealers, human trafficking, and sundry other forms of corruption... Really? You give him too much credit. His greatest mistake, I believe, was in using democracy to fight the aristocracy. It set the whole country at each other's throats, and the clock cannot be turned back, no matter how many free movie tickets are given away. The game has changed, and both teams are unwilling to acknowledge that because the game is still a game that has no referees. Now there is no rice-pledging scheme, there is a per-rai subsidy to offset costs. Now there is no vote buying, because there are no votes, but in buying people I have to wonder: what about Prince Narusean movie tickets (no one mentions how much THAT cost -- the entertainment people are not going to walk away from money), Now there is tranquility progress. Now we have free water and concerts for illegal Cambodians -- simply because they are really cheap labor -- no permits, paperwork or taxes...simple. Both sides are using the exact same strategies to manipulate people for the exact same reasons. It is the same in Europe and America. The same kinds of failures, the same kinds of deadlocks. The Thai version of a power struggle is no more evil, nor less evil than all the other power struggles going on in the world. I think what really pisses off the Western world is that Thailand can be bought -- but only by Thais. This is a matter of great joy to me. The Great Man said "Thailand is for Thais". General Prayuth O-cha and the reviled ex PM Mr Thaksin: screw the foreign critics. Play their game, but do not let them in your house. Work with them, but never trust them. Talk to them, but remember their words are almost always lies in honest clothing. Be friendly to them, but do not offer your daughters. Keep your house clean, so your children are not sick. This is my prayer for you. Amazing Thailand. I don't quite understand your point - in fact I'd go as far as saying your post is garbled rubbish General Prayuth has stepped in and IMO probably not soon enough, I've never seen Thailand so stable since and I've lived here 10 years - PTP were not fit for purpose in so many ways it would take too long to list them - not one of them should be allowed back into politics ever again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I look forward to this cowardly custard being tracked down and thrown in a cell. What's the betting he has sand up to his ankles right now....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> iancnx, on 21 Jun 2014 - 07:23, said:Life bans are the only way to quickly rid Thai Politics of the dinosaurs from both sides. The 5 year type clearly didn't work! I suggest mandatory life bans and a mandatory minimum of 1 year in jail, maximum of 20 years in jail. Edited June 21, 2014 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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