Prayuth tops people's choice as next PM

[larsjohnsson]

A prediction: The General will become PM of a military-led party which will win enough votes in next year's election to form a Coalition with the Democrats, leaving Pheu Thai in opposition under a leader not related to the Shinawatra family.

And if he doesn't win, he just make a new coup.

But of course he or the one he support will win. He have forced out the opposition. Either they have to leave or agree not to work in politics again

[Ve37]

I like your post and believe the thing that was/is needed is the end of corruption and the possibility of someone having Dictator Interest., even though the one party has as their slogan "Against Dictatorship.

I believe it will take one or two years to trulysquare away Thailand.

Jerry

What would one call the Dictatorship of an unelected, anti-government, elitist, People's cartel who has control over elected officials?

[heybruce]

"The Master Poll of the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association, TRICHA)..."

Wow, they concluded that people want Prayuth as PM!

Here's another news flash, "The Born Again Christians for a Holier World" conducted a poll that shows that people prefer going to church over drinking, gambling and sex.

You should read and try to understand. The topic doesn't say 'the people' want Gen. Prayuth as PM. The topic only says that out of those asked junta chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is on top of the people's choice, supported by 32.1 per cent of respondents, as the next prime minister.

Next we'll get into the subject of "local farang takes step towards reconciliation by opening a lounge"

"You should read and try to understand."

Take your own advice rubl, and stop modifying other people's posts. I never wrote "the people" as you quoted, I wrote "they concluded that people want Prayuth as PM!". I assume the 32.1 percent the poll referred to were people.

[shaurene]

The General has proved his capable knowlage of the citation that was destroying Thailand and did the right thing. He would make a very good PM and would pick the ministers and control control them, I hope he stands for election.

[domnam]

A leader is only as good as the people he or she leads and Thais are lacking in goodness because they do not play by the rules or obey laws. A few examples are their mobile phones are on in flight playing FB or line and as soon as the aircraft lands they reach for their bags before reaching the gate.

Traffic lights means nothing to them and driving or riding a motorbike opposite to the traffic is normal. 10 year old kids riding motorbikes with babies in one hand and a cell phone in the other.

The next PM will have a hell of a time if he is serious about leading a nation out of lawlessness and disrespect for law and order. I see people protesting about this and that and really what they should be doing is taking a long look at their own self and try to do good to take this nation out of the long years of rot.

[tullynagardy]

Was I not reading on TVF that if a coup were to occur, the Isaanites would rise up on mass and violently overthrow the junta? But now, that the Shinawat mafia tentacles are being chopped off and the oh-so pursuasive local puuyai baans and kamnans are unable to intimidate and cajole the locals to vote for Shin, we are seeing a logical progression that people don't want the return of Shin. The mouse that never roared?

What does Issanites refer to? Its a myth Thaskin aligned parties have only flourished there. In 2011 they took half the vote in Bangkok and the majority in the North of the country.

As for not rising up anyone who shows dissent gets sent off to camps for "readjustment" which can best explain the lack of anything.

You reallly need to do some reading to figure out what this is all about, I mean that in the most sincere terms. You wont find it here or in any Thai media but it is out there so go look Its fascinating stuff once get your head round it, i think slowly one by one many on here are realising this wasnt a grand fight against corruption

[DrTuner]

Just let Thaksin run. Then we'll have a coup sooner and the politicians won't be able to screw it up that much in the short time. Might make it a tradition, you know, like a political songkran every two years.

[rickirs]

Aside from the question of whether this survey was funded and conducted by an independent organization that has no connection or bias towards the junta (and having junta frequently used "Happiness" in its name seems to prejudice it), the Junta should condemn the survey as being political in nature and contravening the junta's national reconciliation efforts to remove political conflict from all public discussiosn. The survey points to continued political differences, albeit with questionable results, in the country following previous country's political divisions and no doubt will not help resolve differences of former red shirt supports - it does not instill Happiness to all Thais. With polling Abhisit and Suthep only slightly higher thah Yingluck, the survey further may have the unintended effect of encouraging political activism of red shirts.

Again if taken at face value, the survey would seem to imply that the whole anti-government protest over six months was an unneeded exercise in civil disobediance and unnecessary shutdown of the interim government with both Abhisit Vejjajiva and Suthep Thaugsuban even now outpolling Yingluck Shinawatra. Thus, the survey leads one to the question of why didn't the Democrats just go forward in October 2013 with elections?

[tonbridgebrit]

Okay, let's have an election very soon. That way, the USA and Europe can't carry on critisising Thailand for not being a democracy.

And once the USA and Europe are back on good terms with Thailand, then, then no need for Thailand to drift towards China. That will make a load of people on Thai Visa happier !

[djjamie]

Was I not reading on TVF that if a coup were to occur, the Isaanites would rise up on mass and violently overthrow the junta? But now, that the Shinawat mafia tentacles are being chopped off and the oh-so pursuasive local puuyai baans and kamnans are unable to intimidate and cajole the locals to vote for Shin, we are seeing a logical progression that people don't want the return of Shin. The mouse that never roared?

What you read and what many people said at the time, including me that it was nothing more than rhetoric and sabre rattling, but still it was used as a pretext for the coup. There was even some ardent posters on here who were going on and on about the "call to arms, and that there was militias being formed and 1 million weapons being issued"

It was NOTHING short of jingoism, but people believed it as that what they wanted to believe, there was NEVER a threat of civil war, in some peoples eyes this was seen as a catalyst, but again I said on several occasions, to convince a man to go and die for a cause is a lot harder than recruiting for one.

There was PDRC/Suthep posters here who were alarmist at best, when it was claimed by the reds they were raising an "Army" again, I said it was all a load of crap, and that it was a handful of UDD nut jobs just stirring the shit.

But it was enough to make the Junta believe it was going to happen? I'm sorry but I never bought into that being one of the reasons for the coup. The Military would have had their own Intelligence people in places that would have seen the Army swing into action outside of the Capital.. that didn't happen, there was no huge arrests of the 10,000 militia members with their 1 million guns.... why? because they only existed in peoples imaginations that's why.

ALL warfare is based on deception.

The only forum member that defends the PTP / UDD while pronouncing he sways towards Ahbisit has spoken.

Why would the Junta not believe this civil war was going to happen? Why would the general public not believe it was going to happen? The red apologists on this forum including the closet ones (you) state the PTP don't lie. They state they are transparent. They state the PTP follow through with what they say. When the PTP speak it is gospel apparently.

So when Charupong Ruangsuwan, the chairman of the PTP and interior minister told a gathering of RS's that in the “fight this time death will be real.” He said 10 million guns were registered in Thailand. “These are guns for self-defense,” he said. “If anyone underestimates the power of the people, you’ll know about it. I believe that we must be prepared to enter a decisive situation.

​Firstly the power of the people he is referring too is 7% of the population. Secondly we are told to believe everything the PTP say so the Junta would most likely take this quite seriously considering this guy is the chairman of the PTP of which the party was brought to power by 2 accused terrorists and an ex communist in the form of the UDD. If Obama said it should it be laughed off as "jingoism" Charupong is at the top of the political food chain as well. Gotto believe him. He said no corruption in the rice scheme as well. Gotto believe him right?

So the first poster is right. The Shin tentacles are being chopped off. It also helped that the "Khon Kaen model" was reported by concerned citizens around Nongkort Lake where the apartments are that the RS's set up their terror cell. Had that not been discovered by the Junta there may have well been innocent victims killed including ironically red shirt supporting falangs that defend the RS's (not you of course because you prefer the DEM's). This cell was set up to mobilize anti-coup supporters, disarm authorities, instigate terror attacks in the North and force financial institutions to give money to the poor, and declare a nationwide “zero debt” policy. (The link is in Thai that shows their aims).

Thank god the Junta took the Chairman of the PTP seriously when the Chairman stated the above.

But then as I said before it is hard to start a civil war when only 7% of the population strongly support the UDD.

[spidermike007]

Was I not reading on TVF that if a coup were to occur, the Isaanites would rise up on mass and violently overthrow the junta? But now, that the Shinawat mafia tentacles are being chopped off and the oh-so pursuasive local puuyai baans and kamnans are unable to intimidate and cajole the locals to vote for Shin, we are seeing a logical progression that people don't want the return of Shin. The mouse that never roared?

They were talking up a big rap while they were still holding the reins of power. How many risked life and limb, after the coup, to take to the streets? I said a long time ago, that a show of power and strength would be all it took. Quiet as a moth.

[NeilSA1]

BANGKOK: -- The Master Poll has found that junta chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is on top of the people's choice, supported by 32.1 per cent of respondents, as the next prime minister.

Sounds like an overwhelming majority of the electorate.

Pity poor Yingluck. 6.9 per cent is distinctly underwhelming minority of the electorate.

I don't know.... Nick Clegg would probably give his left nut for that level of adulation. François Hollande would probably give his other one.

Whose? Nick Clegg's ? Very noble of Francois.

[NeilSA1]

Prayuth 32.1 (Hardly a "majority")

Abhisit 13.9

Suthep 8.4

Some Dem 8.1

TOTAL 62.5

So what happened to the other 37.5%????

Polls reflect only what you WANT them to reflect, and rarely reflect the truth.

Well.... Yingluck apparently scored 6.9%

[garyinhuahin]

Who did the other 30% like?

[djjamie]

I am sure the General would love to hold an election ASAP to ride of the back of his current popularity. However he is a disciplined man with ethics and morals and realizes that much needed reform is needed first to to ensure the infestation that has plagued Thailand for so long does not return. That infestation being corruption. What did you think I was referring to?

[rubl]

Aside from the question of whether this survey was funded and conducted by an independent organization that has no connection or bias towards the junta (and having junta frequently used "Happiness" in its name seems to prejudice it), the Junta should condemn the survey as being political in nature and contravening the junta's national reconciliation efforts to remove political conflict from all public discussiosn. The survey points to continued political differences, albeit with questionable results, in the country following previous country's political divisions and no doubt will not help resolve differences of former red shirt supports - it does not instill Happiness to all Thais. With polling Abhisit and Suthep only slightly higher thah Yingluck, the survey further may have the unintended effect of encouraging political activism of red shirts.

Again if taken at face value, the survey would seem to imply that the whole anti-government protest over six months was an unneeded exercise in civil disobediance and unnecessary shutdown of the interim government with both Abhisit Vejjajiva and Suthep Thaugsuban even now outpolling Yingluck Shinawatra. Thus, the survey leads one to the question of why didn't the Democrats just go forward in October 2013 with elections?

Uhm, go forward with elections October 2013? Which elections if I may ask?

As far as I know and at least in my universe it was only on December 9th, 2013 that PM Yingluck dissolved the House and called for snap elections which where to be held within 60 days or so.

[metisdead]

A post speculating on HM the King has been removed. Read this again:

No Discussion Of The Monarchy In Political Context

[rubl]

Correct. It's easy to find the blocked reading material and very obvious which posters have not bothered.

They read The Nation and think its valid fodder for a discussion.

If in Thailand using a Thai ISP you can find the materiel it is obviously not blocked.

If it's blocked in Thailand, but not outside then we here in Thailand cannot read it and since it's blocked should not even discuss it. To say we couldn't be bothered suggests we should actively break the law and search for blocked content.

Of course personally I think all polls in Thailand should be ignored as being somewhat meaningless.

[NoshowJones]

This "poll" is not even a decent joke. Suthep one of the top vote getters. Yea sure, ha ha, ho ho. I would love to see him run.

i would love to see him run too, straight into the nearest prison cell for a very long time. He caused loss of livelihood and even death for some people as did whoever was in charge of the reds in 2010.

..........................."as did whoever was in charge of the reds in 2010".......................... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoever was in charge ??? What's the matter, are you too scared to name him ? It's T-H-A-K-S-I-N.

And to you all the posters on this topic who are nipping at the junta's heels, guess what ? If it was not for the totally inept, corrupt and greedy law-breaking crooks who were in power before the coup, this coup would never had happened.

Your team were red carded, get over it. Have another sour grape.

You sure about that? I'm not saying it wasn't Thaksin, but was he not out of the country at the time? Someone must have been giving the orders over here in Thailand. Do you know who it was? My team was red carded, what makes you say it was my team? One is as bad as the other.

[VINCENT2012]

Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association, TRICHA

in my life , i have never seen such an association

so...when are they going to create

Thai Researchers in farang Community Happiness Association, TRIFCHA

....i am interested in seeing the results.

[janpharma]

General Prayuth, YES YOU CAN...Go for it!

[Hawk]

Do people really have a choice? If they're against the military etc then they're not allowed to legally speak out about the main reasons why. Don't forget these things. Plus all the news is good news when the military controls the news.

No choice. People's choice? What choice?

People? What people? A few guys in the army type people?

[rebelplatoon]

You have to be honest: it s probably a slightly bias poll at this stage. Besides the fact that the general consensus now is that the coup brought peace and prevented lots worse. Which is good. I hope they speed up the changes even more while they re at it. Stop some projects hold them against the light of day, stop corruption, make sure a proper system is in place and slowly start handing over power.

[Hawk]

30% of 100% makes the general the people's choice?

Thai education at its best I suppose? This is the reason I always check my change before leaving any shop in Thailand!

[Just1Voice]

Incorrect. That land sold at the going rate.

It was a public auction and the deal was in the press.

There was an auction with 3 bidders I recall. Shins and 2 of the big well known developers.

The 3 bids came in under reserve price and the land not sold.

They held another auction the Shins outbid.

I never saw a story about the price being rigged.

The spouse of the winning bidder is obligated to sign the documents and that's what they hung him on.

Recall the next PM was kicked out for being paid 10,000bt for appearing on a Sunday cooking show on TV.

A show he previously hosted for years called "cooking and Complaining.

Very entertaining jovial fellow.

But rules are rules and the stacked court threw him out too!

Technically, Thaksin is NOT guilty of "abuse of power" as stated by his conviction. Early last year the courts ruled the land purchase by his wife as "null & void". She had to give the land back, and got her money back, plus interest. Null & Void means that legally, IT NEVER HAPPENED, and all actions connected with it also never happened. So, how can he be guilty of something that, legally, never happened? He's a megalomaniac and I'm sure they've got plenty of shit to hang him on, but this one is B.S.

[wilcopops]

What a name! 2000 people ......what a poll!!!!

it would be nice to know what questions were asked in this poll band what names were put forward .... and which 15 provinces.

Edited June 29, 2014 by wilcopops

[wilcopops]

I think anyone who thinks that Taksin is the origin of Thailand's problems needs a dam good dose of Thai history.

[snottgoblin]

And yet, despite being so popular, they did not want an election.

Dear leader must think that we are not capable of that

I believe The Dear Leader is hiding out in the desert somewhere.

[Robby nz]

Well I don't think he should be interim PM.

After his retirement in September he should stay on as head of NCPO which would act as the main check and balance to the interim Government and the senate which should be reinstated as was.

Then he should join with, or create, a political party and contest the next general election as a constituency candidate with the understanding that if the party he stood for were elected he would become the elected PM.

That would bring everything under the democratic umbrella that only the usual few losers could complain about.

[Eric Loh]

WOw this poll can rival Kim Jong-il controlled media claiming he scored 11 holes in one over 18 holes in his first and only round of golf.