webfact Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Whistle-blower expects inspections of rice warehouses 'to yield evidence'PIMNARA PRADUBWITKRISSANA TIWATSIRIKULSURACHAI PIRAKSATHE NATIONBANGKOK: -- ONGOING rice warehouse inspections by the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) are expected to deliver crucial evidence related to alleged rampant corruption in the failed rice-pledging scheme, said former Democrat MP Warong Dechgitvigrom.Warong, who blew the whistle on the scheme a few years ago, said on his Facebook page that he expected positive developments from the inspection process that officially started yesterday."The National Anti-Corruption Commission [NAAC] is handling two big cases about the scheme," he said.According to Warong, one case is against ousted prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra while the other is against several former Cabinet members and many big-name rice traders.The Yingluck-led government initiated the rice-pledging scheme, which was mired in massive corruption allegations and incurred huge financial losses before the NCPO scrapped it.The NACC has already recommended that Yingluck be impeached. The government led by her Pheu Thai Party lost power following a coup in May.PM’s Office permanent secretary Panadda Diskul is overseeing the inspection of warehouses that participated in the rice-pledging scheme.The inspections will look into both the quantity and the quality of rice.It will take about 100 committees, each spearheaded by senior officials, to inspect about 1,800 warehouses and 137 silos.Officials from the Public Warehouse Organisation (PWO), administrative officials, surveyors and soldiers are helping with the inspections.Yesterday, the inspections officially began. PM's Office inspector-general Orawan Khumsap led an inspection at a warehouse in Nakhon Si Thammarat."We have collected some rice samples for a quality check," Orawan said, "And we will cross-check the quantity of rice we have found here with the information at the Cooperative Auditing Department."PWO officials, soldiers and related officials checked a warehouse in Buri Ram as some 3,000 tonnes of rice there must be exported.During the check, officials found that some rice had deteriorated in quality because it had been kept there too long.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Whistle-blower-expects-inspections-of-rice-warehou-30237704.html-- The Nation 2014-07-04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timewilltell Posted July 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted July 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Unfortunately most "children" didn't see it coming and would probably vote for the party that offered something similar again . . . long term thinking, cause and effect, critical analysis etc are not their strong suits. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 The Yingluck-led government initiated the rice-pledging scheme, which was mired in massive corruption allegations and incurred huge financial losses before the NCPO scrapped it. True, but she was only following the advice of her caddie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lostsoul49 Posted July 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2014 Good old Warong... Fair play to him to keep pushing the envelope on this one. I think we can see a lot of very big names being put in the dock for this scam. I doubt this is just one man's prediction... Warong although was on the other side of the fence from this corrupt bunch, he still moved in the same social circles, and obviously spoke a lot with people 'in the know'.... Thais love to talk and gossip, and so far fraud and theft has already been uncovered befre the stockpile checks even got underway. With about 600 Bn baht gone astray, I reckon this swoop on the stockpiles is going to reveal an almost endless list of discrepancies and a hell of a lot of Thaksin's inner circle finding themselves in front of criminal court judges. Personally.... Yingluck is at the top of all this, and should be given the most severe sentence of the lot.... without that, then people will see that ignorance pays. While they are at it.... why hasn't anyone pulled her upon this 30 Bn baht handed over to Thaksin??? The theft under her administration makes me want to puke. They failed to cut the head off the snake back in 2006 and it came back to haunt them.... Will they get back in power???? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The Yingluck-led government initiated the rice-pledging scheme, which was mired in massive corruption allegations and incurred huge financial losses before the NCPO scrapped it. True, but she was only following the advice of her caddie. We all know who the caddie is, but what's the handy- cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostsoul49 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Unfortunately most "children" didn't see it coming and would probably vote for the party that offered something similar again . . . long term thinking, cause and effect, critical analysis etc are not their strong suits. Yup.... and if they do vote a Shit Shin government back to power, then I will give it 2 to 3 years again and all hell will break loose once again and next time I would think there is a very real chance of a civil war, because something has to give, this cycle will not be put up with much longer. Edited July 4, 2014 by lostsoul49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app The question remains will the NACC gather enough evidence from these inspections to incriminate and prosecute those officials in charge of this scheme. They should have been charged already for lying to the public that NO rice was missingSent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Lets sit back and watch the squirming, grovelling and back tracking on this one , the hot potato could be to hot to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottocus Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Go the Junta!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Warong, who blew the whistle on the scheme a few years ago, said on his Facebook page that he expected positive developments from the inspection process that officially started yesterday. Warong and his Facebook. It seems like only yesterday that he blew his whistle on Nok Air. Hope he gets more likes for this one. Edited July 4, 2014 by Payboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Unfortunately most "children" didn't see it coming and would probably vote for the party that offered something similar again . . . long term thinking, cause and effect, critical analysis etc are not their strong suits. Yup.... and if they do vote a Shit Shin government back to power, then I will give it 2 to 3 years again and all hell will break loose once again and next time I would think there is a very real chance of a civil war, because something has to give, this cycle will not be put up with much longer. I really do hope you're wrong, and from the popular support that Gen. Prayuth has gained since stepping in, it would seem that the people now have a new hero, so the chances of them ever switching back to the Shin clan would seem to be very remote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Unfortunately most "children" didn't see it coming and would probably vote for the party that offered something similar again . . . long term thinking, cause and effect, critical analysis etc are not their strong suits. Yup.... and if they do vote a Shit Shin government back to power, then I will give it 2 to 3 years again and all hell will break loose once again and next time I would think there is a very real chance of a civil war, because something has to give, this cycle will not be put up with much longer. I really do hope you're wrong, and from the popular support that Gen. Prayuth has gained since stepping in, it would seem that the people now have a new hero, so the chances of them ever switching back to the Shin clan would seem to be very remote. Thais get bored very quickly about everything, so a new hero will be around soon. Their hero is he who fills there hand for the time being. Thais have small hands, but they're growing fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 To get back in power, Thaksin has to offer another rice scheme. Maybe next time it'll be free chemical fertilizers and chemical sprays so as to keep the farmers poor and the cronies rich. I hope that the farmers will think more wisely before taking the 500 Baht on the Night of the Howling Dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted July 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Unfortunately most "children" didn't see it coming and would probably vote for the party that offered something similar again . . . long term thinking, cause and effect, critical analysis etc are not their strong suits. Yup.... and if they do vote a Shit Shin government back to power, then I will give it 2 to 3 years again and all hell will break loose once again and next time I would think there is a very real chance of a civil war, because something has to give, this cycle will not be put up with much longer. If a Shin Govt is not voted back into power Thaksin will do a repeat of 2010 for he will never accept being out of power. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JesseFrank Posted July 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2014 To get back in power, Thaksin has to offer another rice scheme. Maybe next time it'll be free chemical fertilizers and chemical sprays so as to keep the farmers poor and the cronies rich. I hope that the farmers will think more wisely before taking the 500 Baht on the Night of the Howling Dogs. To give something free would mean Thaksin had to get money somewhere else to pay for it. Thaksin NEVER gives something for free, he rather gives the impression he gives something, but in reality the only thing he does is collect and don't pay his bills as long as he can get away with it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Wouldn't it be better for samples to be taken from the centre of the pile, rather than as shown in the photo from the outside where the air circulates, if they want to detect any problems with quality ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Unfortunately most "children" didn't see it coming and would probably vote for the party that offered something similar again . . . long term thinking, cause and effect, critical analysis etc are not their strong suits. I wasn't meaning to insult the intelligence of children! Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Wouldn't it be better for samples to be taken from the centre of the pile, rather than as shown in the photo from the outside where the air circulates, if they want to detect any problems with quality ? Could it be that they haven't added a picture to the article of each and every sample they have taken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Lot's of interesting points on this thread. I suggest there's a salient question - 'Has the paymaster now given up / withdrawn totally from politics and interference'? I wish it was true but unfortunately I suspect the answer is no. Edited July 4, 2014 by scorecard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Lot's of interesting points on this thread. I suggest there's a salient question - 'Has the paymaster now given up / withdrawn totally from politics and interference'? I wish it was true but unfortunately I suspect the answer is no. Don't you ever read the newspapers ? Ok, where's my damn coat. Edited July 4, 2014 by JesseFrank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Wouldn't it be better for samples to be taken from the centre of the pile, rather than as shown in the photo from the outside where the air circulates, if they want to detect any problems with quality ? Stop, you're talking too much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted July 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think we all know what to expect since most posters have been raising the issues of theft and deterioration of the rice since the very beginning of the rice scam scheme which was so transparent as to its real corrupt intention that a child could see it. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Unfortunately most "children" didn't see it coming and would probably vote for the party that offered something similar again . . . long term thinking, cause and effect, critical analysis etc are not their strong suits. Yup.... and if they do vote a Shit Shin government back to power, then I will give it 2 to 3 years again and all hell will break loose once again and next time I would think there is a very real chance of a civil war, because something has to give, this cycle will not be put up with much longer. I really do hope you're wrong, and from the popular support that Gen. Prayuth has gained since stepping in, it would seem that the people now have a new hero, so the chances of them ever switching back to the Shin clan would seem to be very remote. Never underestimate the desire to seek revenge on his enemies, who caused him to lose face, power and money, of a narcissistic billionaire with no morals, who will use even his baby sister to advance his goals; even if it means she may go to prison. Fully investigating the corruption of the Rice Support Scheme may bring down enough of Thaksin's powerful allies to set him back, but Dr. Thaksin has billions of dollars, has free movement, and a grudge to settle. There is no way for Thailand to inoculate itself from the influence of Thaksin. He has enough money to corrupt a new set of flunkies and he may even have some family members, who haven't been convicted, to carry out his plans for retribution at the minimum and return to power at the maximum. General Sonthi Boonyaratglin didn't do the job of stopping Thaksin in 2006 and hopefully, General Prayuth has learned enough from Gen. Sonthi's mistakes to do a better job. I believe that, as long as Thaksin breathes and/or has a dollar, he will continue. He has proven, over and over, that he is not a man voluntarily who gives up. On another note, why would anyone believe Thaksin has lost his reputation as the martyred, defender of the poor, in Isaan, and the Son of Chiang Mai, in the north? He hasn't. Martial law distorts public perceptions as pro Thaksin promotions are suppressed. Nobody who was pro Thaksin before the coup could possible be won over in such a short space of time. It is an illusion created by martial law. Be careful, be thorough, and be ever vigilant General Prayuth. You have many powerful enemies who lost their position feeding at the trough of the public coffers. They are conspiring, even now, at your overthrow. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Lot's of interesting points on this thread. I suggest there's a salient question - 'Has the paymaster now given up / withdrawn totally from politics and interference'? I wish it was true but unfortunately I suspect the answer is no. Don't you ever read the newspapers ? Ok, where's my damn coat. You really believe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Busy man Dr. Wrong. Hot on the heels of a Nok Air rant and now boldly announcing that major coruption evidence will be revealed. What if the rice descranpancies are due to accounting over sight and no politicians implicated. Will see and if no evidence revealed, hope someone will sue the loudmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Busy man Dr. Wrong. Hot on the heels of a Nok Air rant and now boldly announcing that major coruption evidence will be revealed. What if the rice descranpancies are due to accounting over sight and no politicians implicated. Will see and if no evidence revealed, hope someone will sue the loudmouth. Yes indeed just wait till a Thaksin proxy party gets back in power he will suffer for revealing the corruption within the scheme. He will learn the hard way that truth has no place in the Shin version of politics. Oh by the way, he has been revealing corruption within the rice pledging scheme now over the last 2 no confidence debates with documented evidence and no one has as yet tried to sue him. Edited July 4, 2014 by Robby nz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Bearing in mind the NCPO are trying to foster a Nation of happy reconciled people and supposedly have banned politicians from "politicking", there's an awful lot of "politicking" happening on warongs facebook page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Why do they worry about impeaching someone who is no longer in office? Folks totally unclear on what impeach means and when and why it is used. The attorney generals office can bring charges against politicians not in office, for actions they did while in office. Impeachment is a parliamentary mechanism For charging politicians while still in office. Impeachment is the same as charging a suspect, but voted in parliament rather than a grand jury or a prosecutor.. So very simple, find evidence of malfeasance in office and charge them. Of course conviction is now in the courts and not by the Senate. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Bearing in mind the NCPO are trying to foster a Nation of happy reconciled people and supposedly have banned politicians from "politicking", there's an awful lot of "politicking" happening on warongs facebook page. Yes - be so much nicer if all this was simply swept under the carpet. Perhaps and amnesty for all and maybe even zero the clock and start again............. now where did that idea come from again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseeda Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 So much rice was sold out of these warehouses "out the back door" , but the millers and warehouse owners have had a long time to re-stock what they stole as everyone and his dog knew this inspection was on the cards. However most of the replaced rice has come from Cambodia . I have a contact in Surin who has been running 4 trucks 24 hours a day , bringing in rice to refill the warehouses although all stopped just as the Junta padlocked all the warehouses and put a watch on them. But this is Thailand and corruption is everywhere. Follow the money trail which is where the Damning evidence willcome from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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