Four-year old Thai boy dies in a locked school van

[skorchio]

This is so tragic, the parents must be distraught. The poor little fella

[Carrerakiss]

Why didn't the school make contact with the parents to let them know that their child hadn't arrived at school that morning? Agree with the many posts questioning some aspects of the story. Maybe it's translation issues, maybe poor reporting, but a lot of thnvgs don't add up

[Pib]

Surely it should be a matter of standard procedure to register all the children as they come on and then check the same register as they get off. Jail time for negligence of this kind,  Condolences to the  family!

When the school van drops off my neighbor's kid there is a male driver and with the kids in the back a female attendant.  The attendant takes the kid out of the van and someone at the house must sign for delivery so to speak.  Now, in the morning the neighbors take their kid to school themselves so I don't know if the school may offer morning pickup also, and if they do, what procedure the school would use to ensure the kids are safety delivered to the classroom/none of them left in the van.

[OOLEEBER]

These incidents break my heart every time another one happens. My twins used to take the songtaew so getting locked in couldn't happen but now my 3 year old started kinder garden at the same school we take them all to school and back in our car, even though it's 120Klm all up each day. At least we know they are safe from lack of attentiveness from others.

[Valentine]

Another innocent life taken away through utter stupidity!!!!! 

 

Thailand - Land of Smiles Stupids!!!

But is it utter stupidity? Malicious intent perhaps. Just speculating of course but from the report it seems like the poor child died only 1 hour after being left in the van so IMO there are 3 scenarios. Poisoning from exhaust fumes (yes they can leak to the inside of a badly maintained vehicle), or the driver murdered the child or the child was suffering some kind of serious illness (maybe this is why the parents did not pursue charges).

The new head of the forensic department should easily determine the child's fate but need to hurry before he is cremated.

 

[rethaier]

Surely it should be a matter of standard procedure to register all the children as they come on and then check the same register as they get off. Jail time for negligence of this kind,  Condolences to the  family!

 

At the least  a quick walk thru the van would seem in order and simple.

[The Usual Suspect]

I used to drive a school bus at one time. The cardinal rule was,  ALWAYS check the entire bus before leaving. It just takes a few minutes and it's not fugging rocket science.  Still, this type of thing continues to happen all over the world, not just Thailand.  

[BWPattaya]

This is a great shame.

It is also another opportunity for the Thai bashers to get on their high horses. I have just, literally 10 minutes ago, been reading on the BBC news about how this happens every few days in the US.

[kamahele]

That poor child and his poor family. How awful. Yes, the driver was stupid and negligent for not checking the entire van before leaving the school and parking the bus. We have had several instances in the States of parents leaving their kids in the car in the hot sun and the children dying. Some leave them there willingly and some just forget they have a kid in the car. Was watching CNN the other day and there was some expert on the show advising parents to leave their shoes of their wallet or purse in the backseat of the car so they won't forget that their children are back there. In the US where car seats are the law, and the seats face backwards very often, the parent apparently can forget there is a kid in the car when they are doing their errands believe it or not.

[Dublin]

These Drivers are just contractors for the schools and don't give a shit except for there wages, the school should have staff to meet the vehicles as they arrive and escort the 4 year olds into the school safely. Up my way the kids ride on the roof not enough room inside drivers just don't care.. 

 

RIP to the little innocent,  

[ozsamurai]

Children take a chit when they get on the bus, put it back when they get off.  Missing chit, kid is still on the bus.... not real hard to organize is it??  Go, down your local school now, buy them a few hundred plastic tags.  It really is a no brainer!!

 

Oz

[Pattaya Pat]

 

And why could not one of the other kids in the back have it in them to wake him up? Sorry, but there is something very seriously wrong with this society, top to bottom. No sense, no feeling, mai pen rai.

Absolute nonsense, the retard driver is responsible for making sure all are off his bus. Usual lack of responsibility that is all too common here.

What a tragic, and so avoidable death.

My daughter travels to school daily on a school van, but they have a supervisor that sits in the back and counts them in and out, actually they come to the door to get her.

 

 

It's not nonsennse at all. This is one very fucked up country, but you carry on living in denial.

[MrBrad]

There's something wrong here. Members have touched on aspects, but there is more to it.

 

1. " Anusorn Joengrungruang, later admitted to the police that he did not notice that the victim had fallen asleep in the back seat...."

 

2, "At about noon, Anusorn said he started wondering whether he had already let the 4-year old kid out of his van."

 

3. " Police said the kid died 3-4 hours ago."

 

point 1 and 2 together.....He "started wondering" and "LET"......I infer from this that he knew he had locked the child in.

Point 3....The child died only an hour after being left in a van (not a small car) in the morning sun, not midday heat? That sounds a bit quick to me.

 

Things don't add up.

 

 

Given the commonly inadequate news reporting here in Thailand, and the fact that English is not their first language, one always has to allow for gaffes in translation.  So often it's the case that the stories don't entirely make sense, or even lead one off the track. 

 

A situation such as the incident today needs fit lawyers and competent investigators to scrutinize and analyse the details.  Thailand is not renown for either of these.  Amateurish newsgathering only adds to the theories.
 

[Pattaya Pat]

Why didn't the school make contact with the parents to let them know that their child hadn't arrived at school that morning? Agree with the many posts questioning some aspects of the story. Maybe it's translation issues, maybe poor reporting, but a lot of thnvgs don't add up

 

They probably just assumed he wasn't coming in. In he past when we have gave our little one a day off, for whatever reason, sometimes we haven't bothered to inform the school and they never called to ask where she was. Then again, we don't send her on a bus. 

[Eliot Rosewater]

Surely it should be a matter of standard procedure to register all the children as they come on and then check the same register as they get off. Jail time for negligence of this kind,  Condolences to the  family!

Having lived here for quite sometime I can tell you is that that will never happen. My condolences go to the family

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[jonesthebaker]

what a totally painfull heart renching story to read.  that poor little boy would have died a slow and most painfull and distressing death.   so many similar occurances over the years.  also children falling from the back of mini buses which the drivers had failed to secure.

 

i can't understand why the parents are not going full out to prosecute this disguisting excuse for a human being.  he was neglectfull to the extreme.  even by his own words he had doubt.  doubt must have been with him all the while.  one doesnt just think 4 or more hours later 'oh i wonder if i left that one particular boy in the bus'.   why would he think that.  he knew all a long in my opinion.   if that was my son then i would be going to prison if he wasnt.

 

if he was given a very long prison sentence then it may - just may - make other drivers think and save some other poor childs life.  

 

again, i can not understand the parents! 

 

 

[Tham1]

very sad that a young child has been killed by another idiotic van driver. I think it shows the intellect of the Thais who could care less, a monkey would care more than some of these dimwits

[ratcatcher]

 

 

And why could not one of the other kids in the back have it in them to wake him up? Sorry, but there is something very seriously wrong with this society, top to bottom. No sense, no feeling, mai pen rai.

Absolute nonsense, the retard driver is responsible for making sure all are off his bus. Usual lack of responsibility that is all too common here.

What a tragic, and so avoidable death.

My daughter travels to school daily on a school van, but they have a supervisor that sits in the back and counts them in and out, actually they come to the door to get her.

 

 

It's not nonsennse at all. This is one very <deleted> up country, but you carry on living in denial.

 

Let's all bash the Thais.  

 

 

These incidents/accidents happen in many countries not just here in Thailand.

Stupidity and irresponsibility carry no passports and are universal characteristics.

 

 

http://www.journalnow.com/news/local/month-old-boy-left-in-van-dies/article_acfa8a7c-2c9f-11e3-b6f0-0019bb30f31a.html?mode=jqm

 

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/trial-begins-in-death-of-2-year-old-left-in-daycar/nfbxF/

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2006300/Girl-dies-daycare-staff-left-vehicle-TWO-HOURS-sweltering-heat.html

 

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/1310388/baby-left-alone-in-hot-van-dies

 

http://www.kltv.com/story/11688980/child-left-on-van-isd-school-bus-driver-suspended

 

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Mom-Feels-Betrayed-After-Child-Left-on-Bus-126531308.html

[jonesthebaker]

 

Why didn't the school make contact with the parents to let them know that their child hadn't arrived at school that morning? Agree with the many posts questioning some aspects of the story. Maybe it's translation issues, maybe poor reporting, but a lot of thnvgs don't add up

 

They probably just assumed he wasn't coming in. In he past when we have gave our little one a day off, for whatever reason, sometimes we haven't bothered to inform the school and they never called to ask where she was. Then again, we don't send her on a bus. 

 

it can be very dangerous to consider that things that are done as a matter of course in the west will be done here in Thailand.  I have lived here for more than twenty years and can say without any doubt in my own mind that Thai people do not think or act with the same level of conscious awareness.

 

i would never let my children go to school in a bus driven by a thai.  for one thing they - in any true sense - are unlicenced.  I mean whn a licence is obtained without driving a vehicle then what is it!  they often leave the doors unsecured and kids have falen to their deaths. not to mention leaving them unattended or in this terrible terrible case - locked in an oven.

 

parents should think of these things and not forget that normal rules and considerations are simply not adhered to.

[Oziex1]

There's something wrong here. Members have touched on aspects, but there is more to it.

 

1. " Anusorn Joengrungruang, later admitted to the police that he did not notice that the victim had fallen asleep in the back seat...."

 

2, "At about noon, Anusorn said he started wondering whether he had already let the 4-year old kid out of his van."

 

3. " Police said the kid died 3-4 hours ago."

 

point 1 and 2 together.....He "started wondering" and "LET"......I infer from this that he knew he had locked the child in.

Point 3....The child died only an hour after being left in a van (not a small car) in the morning sun, not midday heat? That sounds a bit quick to me.

 

Things don't add up.

 

 

What doesn't add up is the cops calculations what are they based on. Guese work I would think.

[meatboy]

This is a great shame.

It is also another opportunity for the Thai bashers to get on their high horses. I have just, literally 10 minutes ago, been reading on the BBC news about how this happens every few days in the US.

you think this is an opportunity for thai bashing,you need to wake up we are in Thailand if you didn't know,this is a tragedy caused by a thai.yes it is a great shame which shouldn't have happened,so try bashing your head against the wall before you get on your high horse to make the above comment.

[Oziex1]

 

Another avoidable tragedy involving small children locked in school vehicles.  Who hires these useless brain dead numbnuts who don't care about the children they have been entrusted with.

 

Even the report isn't exactly sure how many kids were in the van!

Count them on, count them off, and check for things left behind in the van, should be standard behaviour.

How tragic!
 

 

 

Yes what a simple concept, counting and a quick visual check. Tragic for the kid and family, and also tragic for the country is this the best you can do Thailand? Good luck your going to need it.

[maximillian]

And why could not one of the other kids in the back have it in them to wake him up? Sorry, but there is something very seriously wrong with this society, top to bottom. No sense, no feeling, mai pen rai.

 

I witness this total carelessness every day. They don't even care about their very own safety or the safety of their children or anyone elses. They just couldn't care less.

And they keep going on like this. It's just their way.

 

Few exceptions among them.

 

So sorry for the child and his family.
 

[Zeegator]

And why could not one of the other kids in the back have it in them to wake him up? Sorry, but there is something very seriously wrong with this society, top to bottom. No sense, no feeling, mai pen rai.

"And why could not one of the other kids in the back have it in them to wake him up?"

 

Because they're very young children, perhaps?  There is something seriously wrong with you, as an adult, who tries to pass the blame on to innocent children.
 

[Eliot Rosewater]

 

 

And why could not one of the other kids in the back have it in them to wake him up? Sorry, but there is something very seriously wrong with this society, top to bottom. No sense, no feeling, mai pen rai.

Absolute nonsense, the retard driver is responsible for making sure all are off his bus. Usual lack of responsibility that is all too common here.

What a tragic, and so avoidable death.

My daughter travels to school daily on a school van, but they have a supervisor that sits in the back and counts them in and out, actually they come to the door to get her.
 

 
It's not nonsennse at all. This is one very up country, but you carry on living in denial.
 

Let's all bash the Thais.  
 
 
These incidents/accidents happen in many countries not just here in Thailand.
Stupidity and irresponsibility carry no passports and are universal characteristics.
 
 
http://www.journalnow.com/news/local/month-old-boy-left-in-van-dies/article_acfa8a7c-2c9f-11e3-b6f0-0019bb30f31a.html?mode=jqm
 
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/trial-begins-in-death-of-2-year-old-left-in-daycar/nfbxF/
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2006300/Girl-dies-daycare-staff-left-vehicle-TWO-HOURS-sweltering-heat.html
 
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/1310388/baby-left-alone-in-hot-van-dies
 
http://www.kltv.com/story/11688980/child-left-on-van-isd-school-bus-driver-suspended
 
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Mom-Feels-Betrayed-After-Child-Left-on-Bus-126531308.html

I would think in most Western countries the school would be held to full account, is that happening here?

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[Zeegator]

 

 

And why could not one of the other kids in the back have it in them to wake him up? Sorry, but there is something very seriously wrong with this society, top to bottom. No sense, no feeling, mai pen rai.

Absolute nonsense, the retard driver is responsible for making sure all are off his bus. Usual lack of responsibility that is all too common here.

What a tragic, and so avoidable death.

My daughter travels to school daily on a school van, but they have a supervisor that sits in the back and counts them in and out, actually they come to the door to get her.

 

 

It's not nonsennse at all. This is one very <deleted> up country, but you carry on living in denial.

 

 

That post was absolute nonsense, anyone who tries to blame children, little more than babies, is wrong.

 

[WitawatWatawit]

"At about noon, Anusorn said he started wondering whether he had already let the 4-year old kid out of his van. He then rushed back to the van, opened the door only to find the kid lying dead. Police said the kid died 3-4 hours ago"
 
Impossible that a 4 year old could die after what, 1 hour in the morning sun?? Why can't these apes just admit that they went off for an entire day, probably for a drink or to gamble and did not care whatsoever for the kids under their care?? Tia rak Thai my ass. Thais look after #1 and don't give a crap about anyone else.

 
Why can't "the ape" that posted the above admit that he doesn't know what he is talking about?

 

Why can't you admit there is more than a grain of truth to what he is saying?

1 hour in a locked van - virtually impossible to kill the child on its own. Go off for the day and don't care - very, very likely. Most of the drivers I have seen (and that's an awful lot) are good people, but there is always that element who are very self-centred and care only for themselves and their immediate needs - you see them gathering together, full of themselves, and only interested in strutting and posturing with their buddy buddies. That's not Thai bashing - that's puffed up, little big men bashing. Simple observation will tell you that these types really do not care about anyone other than themselves.

[jacknorman]

The teacher can't  count either??

[jvs]

To all the people who can not believe a child can die within one hour of sitting in the full sun around nice o'clock in the morning,

Just try it for yourself and it will make a believer out of you.

I am very sad to see this kind of thing happens all over the world again and again.

 

[JesseFrank]

Involuntary manslaughter or involuntary homicide. This appears "negligent" unlike the killing of the police officer on Sukhumvit by the drunk or drugged high speed driver who appeared to "drag" his victim for hundreds of meters while the victim may have still been breathing, and according to news reports, appears to have been malicious intent.

 

You beat me to it. I wonder why in this case of negligence, where no charges are filed by the parents, the police still insists to press manslaughter charges while in the other case where criminal intend against one of their own was obvious those charges are ignored.

 

I hope the little boy didn't suffer from his ordeal.