Documents required for proof of income letter from New Zealand embassy

[maanoi]

Is a Thai bank statement showing regular deposits from overseas enough?

Or is some sort of pay slip / receipt required along with the bank statement?

I realise this varies embassy to embassy so am only looking for people with experience with the New Zealand embassy.

[Colabamumbai]

Should be any print out of funds being deposited to an account foreign or otherwise equal to 65, 000 Baht monthly works for me, retirement income from one account to another, or how ever you do it.

$50 bucks to my embassy for a letter to Immigration to get your Initial Visa asking them to do it and your good to go, but do not let the consulate in a foreign country take the originally letter, all they need is copy of the finds being deposited. Not the letter from your embassy confirming the funds. Learned from my mistakes.

[maanoi]

So after reading a bunch of threads (with a lot of conflicting information) it seems NZ'ers can make a statutory declaration of their income.

I assume this declaration on its own wont be enough to get a 1 year extension of stay at any Thai immigration offices. Or is it?

Is a declaration combined with Thai bank statements enough for the extension? Are foreign bank statements required along with Thai for the extension of stay?

[noahvail]

My experience for the past six years has always been favourable. You fill out a statuatory declaration, have in hand a source of at least one month's income and your passport. You then annualize the amount and convert it to Thai baht. If it's for a retirement extension you must show 65,000 baht per month; or, if your income is less than 65,000 baht per month, when you're at Immigration, you can annualize your monthly income and show a letter from your bank stating you have x amount of baht to total 800,000 for the year. At my Immigration office, they have wanted to see the Statuatory Declaration along with the proof of those numbers; the bank letter; your Thai passbook, assuming you're using the combination method; and an ATM slip printed on the day you go to Immigration which must show the same balance as the passbook and the letter. It goes without saying that you bring one or two copies of everything, and sign them.

If it's a marriage extension, the amount is 40,000 per month or 400,000 per year. You cannot use the combination method for an extension by marriage. The other rules apply.

Hope this helps.

[maanoi]

My experience for the past six years has always been favourable. You fill out a statuatory declaration, have in hand a source of at least one month's income and your passport. You then annualize the amount and convert it to Thai baht. If it's for a retirement extension you must show 65,000 baht per month; or, if your income is less than 65,000 baht per month, when you're at Immigration, you can annualize your monthly income and show a letter from your bank stating you have x amount of baht to total 800,000 for the year. At my Immigration office, they have wanted to see the Statuatory Declaration along with the proof of those numbers; the bank letter; your Thai passbook, assuming you're using the combination method; and an ATM slip printed on the day you go to Immigration which must show the same balance as the passbook and the letter. It goes without saying that you bring one or two copies of everything, and sign them.

If it's a marriage extension, the amount is 40,000 per month or 400,000 per year. You cannot use the combination method for an extension by marriage. The other rules apply.

Hope this helps.

Helps a lot thanks.

When you say "Have in hand a source of at least one month's income" Do you think I can use my companies financial reports for last year?

[noahvail]

I think that they will need to see the income stream that flows directly to you, whether by cheque or copies of bank transfers from your company's account to yours. After all, it's you who are trying to get the extension, not your company.

[skatewash]

If it's a marriage extension, the amount is 40,000 per month or 400,000 per year. You cannot use the combination method for an extension by marriage. The other rules apply.

Is that true? I had understood the only difference in financial requirements between the two extensions (marriage and retirement) was the amount (40,000/month and 400,000/year, compared to 65,000/month and 800,000/year). I thought the combination method was available for both extensions. Am I wrong?

[sandrew33]

I think that they will need to see the income stream that flows directly to you, whether by cheque or copies of bank transfers from your company's account to yours. After all, it's you who are trying to get the extension, not your company.

This requires a bit of organisation for those who have a company, have a card linked to company account and just draw money out of said account...

I can show I'm the sole shareholder/sole director and have full control of the account but there are no transfers to my own account.

So technically I have no income. Not correct as it's fixed by journal entries at year end.

What about a letter from the company (I.e me) to myself saying I'm on a salary that equates to, say, 5 million baht per annum?

Or must they see bank statements?

[noahvail]

If it's a marriage extension, the amount is 40,000 per month or 400,000 per year. You cannot use the combination method for an extension by marriage. The other rules apply.

Is that true? I had understood the only difference in financial requirements between the two extensions (marriage and retirement) was the amount (40,000/month and 400,000/year, compared to 65,000/month and 800,000/year). I thought the combination method was available for both extensions. Am I wrong?

Refer to question 16 in this immigration website http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=faq

[ubonjoe]

If it's a marriage extension, the amount is 40,000 per month or 400,000 per year. You cannot use the combination method for an extension by marriage. The other rules apply.

Is that true? I had understood the only difference in financial requirements between the two extensions (marriage and retirement) was the amount (40,000/month and 400,000/year, compared to 65,000/month and 800,000/year). I thought the combination method was available for both extensions. Am I wrong?

You are wrong. There is no combination of income and money in the bank for an extension based upon marriage to a Thai.

[noahvail]

I think that they will need to see the income stream that flows directly to you, whether by cheque or copies of bank transfers from your company's account to yours. After all, it's you who are trying to get the extension, not your company.

This requires a bit of organisation for those who have a company, have a card linked to company account and just draw money out of said account...

I can show I'm the sole shareholder/sole director and have full control of the account but there are no transfers to my own account.

So technically I have no income. Not correct as it's fixed by journal entries at year end.

What about a letter from the company (I.e me) to myself saying I'm on a salary that equates to, say, 5 million baht per annum?

Or must they see bank statements?

Sorry, but this is getting beyond my experience. I hope UbonJoe will chime in shortly. Your case does sound a bit complex, as the NZ Embassy wants to see proof of what you put on your statutory declaration.

[billd766]

My experience for the past six years has always been favourable. You fill out a statuatory declaration, have in hand a source of at least one month's income and your passport. You then annualize the amount and convert it to Thai baht. If it's for a retirement extension you must show 65,000 baht per month; or, if your income is less than 65,000 baht per month, when you're at Immigration, you can annualize your monthly income and show a letter from your bank stating you have x amount of baht to total 800,000 for the year. At my Immigration office, they have wanted to see the Statuatory Declaration along with the proof of those numbers; the bank letter; your Thai passbook, assuming you're using the combination method; and an ATM slip printed on the day you go to Immigration which must show the same balance as the passbook and the letter. It goes without saying that you bring one or two copies of everything, and sign them.

If it's a marriage extension, the amount is 40,000 per month or 400,000 per year. You cannot use the combination method for an extension by marriage. The other rules apply.

Hope this helps.

I just did mine at the UK embassy last month but the income was in GBP only.

The immigration police do the exchange rate when you go for the extension as the exchange rate varies on a daily basis and sometimes 2 or 3 times a day.

If you get the embassy letter say at 9am on Monday and do the extension on Friday at 3pm the exchange rate could have varied 5, 10 or even more times in between.

Edited for bad computer spelling

[OJAS]

My experience for the past six years has always been favourable. You fill out a statuatory declaration, have in hand a source of at least one month's income and your passport. You then annualize the amount and convert it to Thai baht. If it's for a retirement extension you must show 65,000 baht per month; or, if your income is less than 65,000 baht per month, when you're at Immigration, you can annualize your monthly income and show a letter from your bank stating you have x amount of baht to total 800,000 for the year. At my Immigration office, they have wanted to see the Statuatory Declaration along with the proof of those numbers; the bank letter; your Thai passbook, assuming you're using the combination method; and an ATM slip printed on the day you go to Immigration which must show the same balance as the passbook and the letter. It goes without saying that you bring one or two copies of everything, and sign them.

If it's a marriage extension, the amount is 40,000 per month or 400,000 per year. You cannot use the combination method for an extension by marriage. The other rules apply.

Hope this helps.

I just did mine at the UK embassy last month but the income was in GBP only.

The immigration police do the exchange rate when you go for the extension as the exchange rate varies on a daily basis and sometimes 2 or 3 times a day.

If you get the embassy letter say at 9am on Monday and do the extension on Friday at 3pm the exchange rate could have varied 5, 10 or even more times in between.

Edited for bad computer spelling

I was under the impression that it was a general Immigration requirement for financial amounts in an Embassy income confirmation letter to be stated in the currency of the Embassy's country and not in THB.

[noahvail]

I just did mine at the UK embassy last month but the income was in GBP only.

The immigration police do the exchange rate when you go for the extension as the exchange rate varies on a daily basis and sometimes 2 or 3 times a day.

If you get the embassy letter say at 9am on Monday and do the extension on Friday at 3pm the exchange rate could have varied 5, 10 or even more times in between.

Edited for bad computer spelling

Embassies' requirements vary, as do individual Immigration offices' requirements. The OP was asking about NZ, where I'm a citizen, and you used the UK Embassy. I do the exchange rate conversion calculation on the statutory declaration, and my local immigration office is happy with that. Your example of exchange rate differences between Monday and Friday wouldn't apply at my Immigration office, as they require the declaration to be made no earlier than the day before my application for extension.

My best advice to the OP would be to visit his Immigration office and ask for their requirements in writing, signed by an IO, for his particular situation, then follow those instructions to the letter.

[noahvail]

I was under the impression that it was a general Immigration requirement for financial amounts in an Embassy income confirmation letter to be stated in the currency of the Embassy's country and not in THB.

Sorry for the lack of clarity on my part. I tried to fix that in the post directly above by saying I do the conversion calculation on the statutory declaration; that would be, for example, 30 baht x $3,000 = 90,000 baht per month.

The original supporting documents are, of course, in dollars8

[Woodsie888]

I think that they will need to see the income stream that flows directly to you, whether by cheque or copies of bank transfers from your company's account to yours. After all, it's you who are trying to get the extension, not your company.

This requires a bit of organisation for those who have a company, have a card linked to company account and just draw money out of said account...

I can show I'm the sole shareholder/sole director and have full control of the account but there are no transfers to my own account.

So technically I have no income. Not correct as it's fixed by journal entries at year end.

What about a letter from the company (I.e me) to myself saying I'm on a salary that equates to, say, 5 million baht per annum?

Or must they see bank statements?

Sorry, but this is getting beyond my experience. I hope UbonJoe will chime in shortly. Your case does sound a bit complex, as the NZ Embassy wants to see proof of what you put on your statutory declaration.

Hi Noahvail,

Are you saying the NZ Embassy is satisfied with copies of incoming transfers totalling at least an average of 65k per month to a TH bank as required proof, in order to issue the Stat Dec and is this combination of documents acceptable to Immigration?

Cheers

Woodsie

[noahvail]

I think that they will need to see the income stream that flows directly to you, whether by cheque or copies of bank transfers from your company's account to yours. After all, it's you who are trying to get the extension, not your company.

This requires a bit of organisation for those who have a company, have a card linked to company account and just draw money out of said account...

I can show I'm the sole shareholder/sole director and have full control of the account but there are no transfers to my own account.

So technically I have no income. Not correct as it's fixed by journal entries at year end.

What about a letter from the company (I.e me) to myself saying I'm on a salary that equates to, say, 5 million baht per annum?

Or must they see bank statements?

Sorry, but this is getting beyond my experience. I hope UbonJoe will chime in shortly. Your case does sound a bit complex, as the NZ Embassy wants to see proof of what you put on your statutory declaration.

Hi Noahvail,

Are you saying the NZ Embassy is satisfied with copies of incoming transfers totalling at least an average of 65k per month to a TH bank as required proof, in order to issue the Stat Dec and is this combination of documents acceptable to Immigration?

Cheers

Woodsie

It is my understanding - and I may be corrected on this by more erudite posters - that Immigration wants to see income, as opposed to transfers. That income can be from pay stubs from work, documents of pension income, or documents of disability income. It may be that showing a copy of your company's tax return, since you appear to be a sole proprietor, along with the page showing the journal entry for the amount transferred to you, might qualify for immigration; but the best way to find out is to go to immigration and speak with a supervisor, and not waiting for the last minute. Each office can make up their rules as they go along, so try to get the info from them in writing and signed. If it's good enough for Immigration, it will be good enough for the NZ Embassy. Speaking of which, the lady who manages our Embassy is originally from Canada, and a delight to speak with - very competent and cheerful.