Popular Post webfact Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 Potential Jet Ski Scam foiled by Pattaya Port AuthoritiesPATTAYA: -- A Chinese couple, who were told that they had caused 15,000 Baht’s worth of damage to a Jet Ski after they returned it back to the operator sought assistance from the Pattaya Port Authorities leading to a reduction in the compensation claim and action taken against the operator. The couple had rented a Jet Ski from Khun Narongdaert aged 21 at the southern end of Pattaya Beach on Thursday afternoon but as they returned to shore the Jet Ski appeared to strike a rock under the water. An inspection determined that some damage had been caused to the front-end of the Jet Ski. Straight away the operator demanded 15,000 Baht to cover the damage which appeared excessive to the Chinese pair. They were able to contact the Pattaya Port Authorities who took the Jet Ski to the Bali Hai Port for an inspection. They determined the cost of the damage was far less than the 15,000 Baht asked for. They were unable to come to an agreement at the Port so all concerned parties were taken to Pattaya Police Station where the operator agreed to a substantially lower figure of 2,000 Baht.Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/137077/potential-jet-ski-scam-foiled-by-pattaya-port-authorities/ [pattayaone]2014-08-01[/pattayaone] 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chang_paarp Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 Now there is a good tactic, ring the port authority, who take the jetski for inspection which cost the "owner" money as the vessel is not available to rent and the bonus is a government inspection will make the negotiations a bit more realistic. 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post waza Posted August 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 Unbelievable that this scammer will get away scot free......... "The Port authorities confirmed Khun Narongdaert’s operating license had expired and he was also found to be operating in a zone designated for swimmers and not Jet Ski’s. He is now under investigation by the Port authorities" - See more at: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/137077/potential-jet-ski-scam-foiled-by-pattaya-port-authorities/#sthash.fFSzgJm9.dpuf 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krystian Posted August 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 I thought these Jetski scammer should have insurance for their jetski to avoid scams...then again it goes on and on and on 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Hey Narong, you scam too mutt. 2000 baht should be okay. Tone it down a bit, will ya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post technologybytes Posted August 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 The only answer to the jetski problem is to make it law for the rental to include insurance or to just ban them altogether. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loptr Posted August 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'm surprised the jet ski scam hasn't come under the scrutiny of the junta... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shirtless Posted August 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ban them they are run by criminals and are a hazard to swimmers. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Ban them they are run by criminals and are a hazard to swimmers. ...or replace them with buoyed off areas and licensed and insured companies, under the direct control of the port authority. //Edit: As the PA would receive licensing money and the companies are paying it plus insurance etc - they will clean it up between themselves PDQ. Edited August 1, 2014 by wolf5370 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maswov Posted August 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 That really wasn't one of the scams, that was just asking an excessive amount. The scammers will do things like put a sticker over some damage which would come off in the water or as they push the boat in the water they pull of a cover which the previously removed the bolts. They use the same damage many times on many different people. Many of the assumed scams are with people who have actually done damage and don't have the money to pay. Usually the operators will start with a high price but that can be reduced after awhile, some will try to intimidate though. Believe it or not there are some honest operators out there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2008bangkok Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 It only takes somebody to make it compulsory for jet skis, motorbikes, car operators to haven full insurance for everybody for all these scams to stop but then the rental company's would have to vet people and probably lose money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyd2k Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 well I see it going on regular on the beach with indian guys, it makes my blood boil, and I`m sure they ask for more than 15,000baht, a time, that is one scam I wish thw army would get involved in and jail the robbers, and in this case as in all ,the person who rents it never hits anything they just peel a bit of tape off where an existing scratch is and say they done it, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Unbelievable that this scammer will get away scot free......... "The Port authorities confirmed Khun Narongdaerts operating license had expired and he was also found to be operating in a zone designated for swimmers and not Jet Skis. He is now under investigation by the Port authorities" - See more at: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/137077/potential-jet-ski-scam-foiled-by-pattaya-port-authorities/#sthash.fFSzgJm9.dpuf I can't foretell the future, so I am unable to comment about "Mr. Scott Free". LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'm surprised the jet ski scam hasn't come under the scrutiny of the junta... Give it time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1965 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 These Jet operators are a complete disgrace and they should all go to Jail! I stopped hiring these Jets when they tried to scam money off me! It is bad for tourism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 "The Port authorities confirmed Khun Narongdaert’s operating license had expired and he was also found to be operating in a zone designated for swimmers and not Jet Ski’s. He is now under investigation by the Port authorities" - See more at: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/137077/potential-jet-ski-scam-foiled-by-pattaya-port-authorities/#sthash.fFSzgJm9.dpuf Operating in a swim zone. Yikes. Damages to a swimmer could have been far worse than that to the jet ski. Never mind the expired operating license.just don't give him, any member of his family, relative or associate a new one EVER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapfries Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'm surprised the jet ski scam hasn't come under the scrutiny of the junta... The "Junta" will certainly get to this huge problem in Pattaya, - and also; don't be surprised to see the clearing of the beach along the entire stretch of the Walking Street, where people have been illegally constructing buildings - and where astonishing amounts of rent etc. have been pocketed by 'influential' people for many decades ! - This is going to be quiet an eye-opener: stay tuned . . . . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Jet Ski Operators are over and above the law. I would not be surprised to see who actually guaranteed the loans to operate them. I don't think the Junta can even control this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I was about to get out may party hat and mark "This day in history" on my calendar. But then saw it was just a discount if scam size... Hope springs eternal in an old geezers heart.... If hit a rock, guess it is too much to suggest perhaps marking an area for jet ski only, as suggested earlier. Some of those rocks may be swimmer's heads... All Jet skis should be registered, many photos kept by authorities so if scammers try, simple comparison possible. Post signs in several languages (including Chinese and Hindi) "If owner accuses you of damaging jet ski, report to station for resolution" or something like that. If false accusation, lock up jet ski and even owner for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotEd Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I had a similar experience many years ago with the Avis rental agent at Don Muang. He tried to get me to pay 5000 for damage that was listed on the sign out sheet saying that I made it worse which did not happen. I think he was counting on me needing to catch a flight but that was not the case so I waited him out while he threatened to call the police. He finally said that he would let it go this time as it wasn't serious. I am sure this was just some Avis worker trying to get some pocket money as I am sure this is not Avis policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 krystian, on 01 Aug 2014 - 09:14, said: I thought these Jetski scammer should have insurance for their jetski to avoid scams...then again it goes on and on and on I would also like to know why he hired them out, in an area that had submerged rocks, also, why they were not marked and were the Chinese couple warned about them. If jet skis are hired out, then it is the responsibility of the owner to warn customers and/or not hire in an area with potentially dangerous submerged objects. If I was an insurance company, I would not pay out because the owner has been negligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaii69 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I thought these Jetski scammer should have insurance for their jetski to avoid scams...then again it goes on and on and on hmm: Car rents have insurance but still take a B5000 'deposit' to cover unforeseen and often 'unseen' damage so I don't think the scams will stop. This is Thailand. ante up, suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyChiangMai Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ban them they are run by criminals and are a hazard to swimmers. ...or replace them with buoyed off areas and licensed and insured companies, under the direct control of the port authority. //Edit: As the PA would receive licensing money and the companies are paying it plus insurance etc - they will clean it up between themselves PDQ. Each city has it's institutional scam. Pattaya the jet ski, diving in Phuket, and Karaoke in Chiang Mai where a beer can cost some poor guy 40,000 baht. Firstly it amazes me that people still fall for it. Do they not watch the programs on TV back home about it or read anything posted here? Second, I think it will never stop. If you shut this down, another city scam institution will pop up. At least any one with common sense knows about these. The best thing for damage limitation is always to go to the police to negotiate the claim as the Thai criminal justice system allows compromise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Umm, OK. The ongoing scam continues, just at a lower rate of extortion. Beam me up Scotty Edited August 1, 2014 by Lancelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Did the NCPO overlook on the jet ski issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabphil Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 How did the chinese manage to get to the Port Authority,doubt they happened to have the phone number, usually the scammers surround you so u cant go anywhere.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I thought these Jetski scammer should have insurance for their jetski to avoid scams...then again it goes on and on and on hmm: Car rents have insurance but still take a B5000 'deposit' to cover unforeseen and often 'unseen' damage so I don't think the scams will stop. This is Thailand. ante up, suckers. No deposit on car rentals is to cover the part the insurance doesn't cover - it never covers the first x baht/dollars/pounds/Euros/etc simply to stop frivolous claims. These people are not being scammed for small deposits (lets face it a car costs 2+ million baht and has a 5k deposit - these jet skis cost 200k and change 60k for "malicious damage"). A small deposit of say 2k would probably by fine, paid up front and returned when it comes back unbuttered - any damage = loss of that deposit and end of story for punter (legitimate operator claims on the insurance - or does the repairs himself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Hate to read about jet ski scams and surely hate the scammers, but... jet ski altogether and their renters are a pain in the ar$e as well. Noisy and a danger to swimmers. To hell with them all. Ban them, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 How did the chinese manage to get to the Port Authority,doubt they happened to have the phone number, usually the scammers surround you so u cant go anywhere.. Probably had a good guide as part of their party. Benefit of travelling around in groups of fifty - can afford the best guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Spread the new about jet ski scammers in English, Chinese, Russian, Spanish, Arab, Hindi, Swedish, German, Korean. Make them lose business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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