webfact Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 1 dead 5 injured as crane falls on two minivans on Pattaya Highway 7PATTAYA: -- Police and medics were called to Highway 7 on the outskirts of Pattaya on Thursday afternoon to deal with a serious and fatal accident involving a crane and two Toyota Minivans which left a driver dead and 5 passengers injured. The incident occurred on the Laem Chabang section of Highway 7 where a new flyover is currently being constructed. Due to high winds and at a time when the crane was fully extended to 50 meters in length, it toppled over and the crane shaft fell onto two Toyota Minivans on the east-bound carriageway. The driver of one of the minivans, Khun Santi aged 45, was pronounced dead at the scene and a total of 5 passengers, 3 of them Japanese Nationals, were seriously injured and taken to Hospitals in the Sriracha District area. Khun Sompong, the crane driver explained how he was employed to assist the construction of the Nong Kham-Laem Chabang Flyover and had the crane shaft fully extended with a long piece of concrete attached to the hook.Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/137971/1-dead-5-injured-as-crane-falls-on-two-minivans-on-pattaya-highway-7/ [pattayaone]2014-08-08[/pattayaone] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZagMan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Oooops. This is the 3Rd crane I have seen toppled over. I thought they were supposed to calculate things so they don't tip over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davidill Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 For the operator R.I.P. Condolences to his family. My 1st question would be; was the SLI / LMI working / bypassed? 2nd what was the ground condition that the crane was standing on? I would like to think that the police have a qualified inspector check the site before the crane is moved. I don't think it will happen but one can hope then the correct people are held accountable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrysum Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Oooops. This is the 3Rd crane I have seen toppled over. I thought they were supposed to calculate things so they don't tip over?Contribute this to LOK lack of knowledge, any questions? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 one insensitive post and one slur post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Oooops. This is the 3Rd crane I have seen toppled over. I thought they were supposed to calculate things so they don't tip over? Calculating is not their strongest point. Below is another example of their calculating capabilities at the same construction site. [attachment=278342:flyover 2.jpg] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasswort Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Oooops. This is the 3Rd crane I have seen toppled over. I thought they were supposed to calculate things so they don't tip over? Calculating is not their strongest point. Below is another example of their calculating capabilities at the same construction site. flyover 2.jpg This is not and cannot be a picture of the same site as the one referred to in the article. Check you facts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 A troll post and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Upnotover Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 [attachment=278345:crane1.JPG] [attachment=278346:crane2.JPG] 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Oooops. This is the 3Rd crane I have seen toppled over. I thought they were supposed to calculate things so they don't tip over? Calculating is not their strongest point. Below is another example of their calculating capabilities at the same construction site. [attachment=278347:flyover 2.jpg] This is not and cannot be a picture of the same site as the one referred to in the article. Check you facts!!! Laem Chabang section of Highway 7 where a new flyover is currently being constructed. Maybe I'm getting old, but I still remember where I took the picture. The picture is the flyover right side of the highway, which leads I think to PinTong and further to Bowin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionluke Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 crane1.JPG crane2.JPG The outriggers appear to be fully extended . I would guess the ground gave way causing the crane to tip up and over , the crane could possibly have been set up to close the embankment edge . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dublin Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) There is no ballast weight fitted to the crane, the jib was over extended for what ever weight he was lifting, rear riggers set up to close to the edge of the excavation, even if the ballast weight had been fitted that embankment would have failed reducing in the same result. Waste of life due to some idiot in a crane who did not have the experience or interest to set it up correctly.. RIP Edited August 8, 2014 by Dublin 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZagMan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 crane1.JPG crane2.JPG Is it still there? This could be fun to watch them recover this gigantic machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 ...I would like to think ... Many times on construction sites in Indonesia in the bar after work some one would say "what were they thinking" followed by a burst of laughter all around. If living in Asia , best not to think, at least too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 Oooops. This is the 3Rd crane I have seen toppled over. I thought they were supposed to calculate things so they don't tip over? One would assume so. But, when it comes to the corporate world, a lot of safety standards are put in place not to save lives, but to save the company from huge payouts, as a result of an accident. So, it comes down to enforcement. We are living in a country, that has one of the weakest judiciaries in the world. So, there is little in the way of enforcement. Even if the safety standards are law, who is there to enforce them? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Bell Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Calculating is not their strong point. What can one do when one doesn't have enough fingers and toes to make a correct calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 crane1.JPG crane2.JPG Is it still there? This could be fun to watch them recover this gigantic machine. They will use a more gigantic machine! Oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Calculating is not their strong point. What can one do when one doesn't have enough fingers and toes to make a correct calculation. you are spot on there,yesterday my wife needed a calculator to work out 500 multiplied by 10,she couldn't understand why i had a fit of laughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 If the Thai drivers don't get you the cranes will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krishnan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 No concept of a site engineer and a safety engineer who will have to oversee and authorise working conditions and practices? Don't they have any qualification methods before they put someone on a heavy equipment? Too sad that a please trip turned into a nightmare for the tourists in a foreign country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 crane1.JPG crane2.JPG Shocking that could have been any one of us who drive on that road from time to time with our families and loved ones. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Looks like they forgot to de-identify the crane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 ZigZagMan, on 08 Aug 2014 - 08:46, said: Oooops. This is the 3Rd crane I have seen toppled over. I thought they were supposed to calculate things so they don't tip over? No one actually trains them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 There is no ballast weight fitted to the crane, the jib was over extended for what ever weight he was lifting, rear riggers set up to close to the edge of the excavation, even if the ballast weight had been fitted that embankment would have failed reducing in the same result. Waste of life due to some idiot in a crane who did not have the experience or interest to set it up correctly.. RIP Matter experts should take pictures and post them on the forum whenever they see complex technical equipment setup and used correctly by local workers. From my personal experience, I can predict the thread to be pretty quiet. I'm still surprised how so many locals take every possible shortcut, ignoring safety and completely inconsiderate of the quality of the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I have seen it yesterday on Thai TV they said rain too much wind too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) are the jobs of crane operator and site engineer reserved occupations,Thais only! looks like it Edited August 8, 2014 by soalbundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I have seen it yesterday on Thai TV they said rain too much wind too much! Thinking too little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkjames Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 I have seen it yesterday on Thai TV they said rain too much wind too much! then stop what you are doing immediately and lower the crane ffs instead of mai pen rai this and that! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soihok Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) My profession dicates that I have to use mobile and crawler cranes up to 700 ton capacity for some our lifts. As pointed out by Dublin, these are the consequences of not researching and completing a lifting plan prior to actually hiring the crane in the first place. RIP to the deceased and get well soon to those injured . This type of thing is 100% avoidable. Edited August 8, 2014 by soihok 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Calculating is not their strong point. What can one do when one doesn't have enough fingers and toes to make a correct calculation. Grrrrr! It was easier when i was driving buffaloes, they don't tip over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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