Popular Post nikkoid66 Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) I am here for 4 years but I have my 2 best friends who are coming in Thailand for more than 15 years. For long time the Visa system in Thailand was allowing people who have money and just want to stay here for early retirement to stay. This time is over. My friends and I are all moving out for the same reason, so I suppose all the people in the same situation are doing the same. I spend about 1 Million Baht / year in this country, not working here, just because I have the money and I spend it. My friends are in the same situation, some earning interest on their money blocked in Singapore, some because they have a lot of land in their main country and get the rents from the lands, some because they are earning royalties on music and films. I have royalties from software I sell on the web. None of us have a job here. But with the new visa rules we are all forced to exit the country, and Thailand will have to say bye bye to the 'good' falangs who provided Millions each, not counting the money invested in condos where we are living and that are for sale as I write this. It seems that this crackdown is not taking in account people who are too young to retire, and have money every month coming from outside Thailand. I think the people who make the law should make a Visa exception, where you can show 1 year for bank notes showing that you make +60,000 baht /month from outside Thailand and be granted a Visa to stay. Let's be honest, Thailand is not UK or Germany. Just look at the roads, the train, the construction value and in general the level of maintenance of everything. Who will spend his money in BK hospital, buy over expensive condos, or just run a decent bakery? Well we are moving out, and see how Thailand will do once the border are removed with the 2015 Issean. It's gona be fun. We can live anywhere in the world. It happens that we love Thailand, our girlfriends and the ease of live here. But too many regulation make it difficult to stay, and other place have much better Visa rules. - Cambodia gives you a work permit and unlimited stay without question. - Philipines gives you 6 month and unlimited extension. Sure these place are not as ready as Pattaya to welcome us, but I think our money spent there will change that quickly. Make a bakery there and no have any problems of paperwork, and be the first to be in the place in Sihanoukville for example, the city that has the biggest investment and growth in all Asia last year? There is a falang war right now, people who have a legitimate Visa punching the ones who where doing border runs... Well stop the fight. We are all coming in Thailand because it is an easy going and cheap country. But this is from the past, now you need to pay 2 EUR + for a simple grapaow gai, condos are more expensive than in Miami per square/meter, police check driving license every corner, buses are aligned on the road at the point that even motorbike cannot drive, you need to carry your passport everywhere you go, you need to notify the immigration when you visit someone in another region of Thailand, no more visa extension. And who is going to learn Thai with an ED visa? What is the incentive to do so? Understanding your Thai girlfriend? She speak Issean anyway! Find you a job in Thailand? You cannot find a job Thailand: it is illegal! The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) and place where you cannot find a job as a falang: stupid idea. Good luck with your new rule game and try to find a way to keep the 'good' farang, or see your economic figures next year Edited August 8, 2014 by nikkoid66 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KittenKong Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 You need this: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/726441-thailand-elite-easy-access-500k-thb-card/Simple. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paz Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) You have just called to be told "don't slam the door on your a** when leaving", and with some good reason. Your entire rant is littered with crap, of which one fetid pearl is the following: The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) and place where you cannot find a job as a falang: stupid idea. Also, there are hundreds of identical threads already, but you deemed yourself too important to use them. On these basis, isn't really worth to discuss with you, and this thread will quickly reach new lowest. Edited August 8, 2014 by paz 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chiang mai Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 I don't agree with everything the OP said but many parts ring true, especially the Thai language/Ed visa part, I mean really, why would a westerner truly want to do that, because it looks good on the CV, come on now! Best of good fortune to you regardless. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gerry1011 Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 If you are young, have money, want to spend you time in Thailand and spend your money in Thailand: Welcome to the Thailand Elite program :) It's not free, of course. But since you and your friends have the money, go for it!!! Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Upnotover Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 And reading all his criticisms of the country I am wondering why he is so upset he has to leave? 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 Find you a job in Thailand? You cannot find a job Thailand: it is illegal No its not, many foreigners work in Thailand fully legal 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 And reading all his criticisms of the country I am wondering why he is so upset he has to leave? I wondering why he even took the time to write the OP 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 thanks for the friday funny. Quite enjoyed that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkoid66 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Is it trolls day? They seems to be out and in good shape. What is Thailand Elite Program? and btw the reason I am upset that I have to leave, is because I have a girlfriend I love, and she has a boy, we stay together 3 years but I will have to leave her behind. She makes 8500 baht / month working in a hotel in an Island, and it is a quite sad situation. Edited August 8, 2014 by nikkoid66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Leave the Bar Girl Scene and find a good woman ... if one will have you. Job Done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanbat Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I am here for 4 years but I have my 2 best friends who are coming in Thailand for more than 15 years. For long time the Visa system in Thailand was allowing people who have money and just want to stay here for early retirement to stay. This time is over. My friends and I are all moving out for the same reason, so I suppose all the people in the same situation are doing the same. I spend about 1 Million Baht / year in this country, not working here, just because I have the money and I spend it. My friends are in the same situation, some earning interest on their money blocked in Singapore, some because they have a lot of land in their main country and get the rents from the lands, some because they are earning royalties on music and films. I have royalties from software I sell on the web. None of us have a job here. But with the new visa rules we are all forced to exit the country, and Thailand will have to say bye bye to the 'good' falangs who provided Millions each, not counting the money invested in condos where we are living and that are for sale as I write this. It seems that this crackdown is not taking in account people who are too young to retire, and have money every month coming from outside Thailand. I think the people who make the law should make a Visa exception, where you can show 1 year for bank notes showing that you make +60,000 baht /month from outside Thailand and be granted a Visa to stay. Let's be honest, Thailand is not UK or Germany. Just look at the roads, the train, the construction value and in general the level of maintenance of everything. Who will spend his money in BK hospital, buy over expensive condos, or just run a decent bakery? Well we are moving out, and see how Thailand will do once the border are removed with the 2015 Issean. It's gona be fun. We can live anywhere in the world. It happens that we love Thailand, our girlfriends and the ease of live here. But too many regulation make it difficult to stay, and other place have much better Visa rules. - Cambodia gives you a work permit and unlimited stay without question. - Philipines gives you 6 month and unlimited extension. Sure these place are not as ready as Pattaya to welcome us, but I think our money spent there will change that quickly. Make a bakery there and no have any problems of paperwork, and be the first to be in the place in Sihanoukville for example, the city that has the biggest investment and growth in all Asia last year? There is a falang war right now, people who have a legitimate Visa punching the ones who where doing border runs... Well stop the fight. We are all coming in Thailand because it is an easy going and cheap country. But this is from the past, now you need to pay 2 EUR + for a simple grapaow gai, condos are more expensive than in Miami per square/meter, police check driving license every corner, buses are aligned on the road at the point that even motorbike cannot drive, you need to carry your passport everywhere you go, you need to notify the immigration when you visit someone in another region of Thailand, no more visa extension. And who is going to learn Thai with an ED visa? What is the incentive to do so? Understanding your Thai girlfriend? She speak Issean anyway! Find you a job in Thailand? You cannot find a job Thailand: it is illegal! The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) and place where you cannot find a job as a falang: stupid idea. Good luck with your new rule game and try to find a way to keep the 'good' farang, or see your economic figures next year Who earns interest on money in the bank in Singapore? OB Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 thanks for the friday funny. Quite enjoyed that. The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) Samran, you Thai is far better than mine by a long stretch, so what languges do they speak outside BKK and Pattaya ? Greek ? Serbo Croate ? Hindi, Cockney rhyming slang ? I am confused, as although my thai isnt that good, every where I have travelled in Thailand outside of BKK, & Pattaya, pretty sure its of Thai being spoken 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upnotover Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Is it trolls day? They seems to be out and in good shape. What is Thailand Elite Program? and btw the reason I am upset that I have to leave, is because I have a girlfriend I love, and she has a boy, we stay together 3 years but I will have to leave her behind. She makes 8500 baht / month working in a hotel in an Island, and it is a quite sad situation. Did you not read the very first reply to your OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkoid66 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 I am here for 4 years but I have my 2 best friends who are coming in Thailand for more than 15 years. For long time the Visa system in Thailand was allowing people who have money and just want to stay here for early retirement to stay. This time is over. My friends and I are all moving out for the same reason, so I suppose all the people in the same situation are doing the same. I spend about 1 Million Baht / year in this country, not working here, just because I have the money and I spend it. My friends are in the same situation, some earning interest on their money blocked in Singapore, some because they have a lot of land in their main country and get the rents from the lands, some because they are earning royalties on music and films. I have royalties from software I sell on the web. None of us have a job here. But with the new visa rules we are all forced to exit the country, and Thailand will have to say bye bye to the 'good' falangs who provided Millions each, not counting the money invested in condos where we are living and that are for sale as I write this. It seems that this crackdown is not taking in account people who are too young to retire, and have money every month coming from outside Thailand. I think the people who make the law should make a Visa exception, where you can show 1 year for bank notes showing that you make +60,000 baht /month from outside Thailand and be granted a Visa to stay. Let's be honest, Thailand is not UK or Germany. Just look at the roads, the train, the construction value and in general the level of maintenance of everything. Who will spend his money in BK hospital, buy over expensive condos, or just run a decent bakery? Well we are moving out, and see how Thailand will do once the border are removed with the 2015 Issean. It's gona be fun. We can live anywhere in the world. It happens that we love Thailand, our girlfriends and the ease of live here. But too many regulation make it difficult to stay, and other place have much better Visa rules. - Cambodia gives you a work permit and unlimited stay without question. - Philipines gives you 6 month and unlimited extension. Sure these place are not as ready as Pattaya to welcome us, but I think our money spent there will change that quickly. Make a bakery there and no have any problems of paperwork, and be the first to be in the place in Sihanoukville for example, the city that has the biggest investment and growth in all Asia last year? There is a falang war right now, people who have a legitimate Visa punching the ones who where doing border runs... Well stop the fight. We are all coming in Thailand because it is an easy going and cheap country. But this is from the past, now you need to pay 2 EUR + for a simple grapaow gai, condos are more expensive than in Miami per square/meter, police check driving license every corner, buses are aligned on the road at the point that even motorbike cannot drive, you need to carry your passport everywhere you go, you need to notify the immigration when you visit someone in another region of Thailand, no more visa extension. And who is going to learn Thai with an ED visa? What is the incentive to do so? Understanding your Thai girlfriend? She speak Issean anyway! Find you a job in Thailand? You cannot find a job Thailand: it is illegal! The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) and place where you cannot find a job as a falang: stupid idea. Good luck with your new rule game and try to find a way to keep the 'good' farang, or see your economic figures next year Who earns interest on money in the bank in Singapore? OB One of my friend, I cannot talk too much or give his Identity, I think he would not like. Singapore Banks are giving 2% for no risk saving account. Leverage can get you up to 5-7% but you take a risk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Is it trolls day? They seems to be out and in good shape. ansd your OP is top of the list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry1011 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Is it trolls day? They seems to be out and in good shape. What is Thailand Elite Program? You never heard about the Thailand Elite program? This forum is full of (pro and anti) comments about it. In two words, it is a program that allows foreigners to comfortably stay in the country, with a long term visa and a 1 year stamp per entry. On top of that there are other nice perks, such as a super stylish welcome at the airport, some golfing privileges and things like that. But, as all good things, it is not free (reason why it is criticized). But all those who can afford it should consider that option. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Edited August 8, 2014 by gerry1011 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JLCrab Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thailand officialdom has repeatedly stated that its economic priorities are to promote investment in Thailand and to provide jobs for young Thai University graduates in areas of film and music production and online software services. Then non-Thais come on ThaiVisa and say: I do all my work by myself and I don't need to make investments in Thailand and hire Thai persons or anyone to help me -- my economic contribution is buying condos, etc., so why is there no long term visa for me? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) I am here for 4 years but I have my 2 best friends who are coming in Thailand for more than 15 years. For long time the Visa system in Thailand was allowing people who have money and just want to stay here for early retirement to stay. This time is over. My friends and I are all moving out for the same reason, so I suppose all the people in the same situation are doing the same. I spend about 1 Million Baht / year in this country, not working here, just because I have the money and I spend it. My friends are in the same situation, some earning interest on their money blocked in Singapore, some because they have a lot of land in their main country and get the rents from the lands, some because they are earning royalties on music and films. I have royalties from software I sell on the web. None of us have a job here. But with the new visa rules we are all forced to exit the country, and Thailand will have to say bye bye to the 'good' falangs who provided Millions each, not counting the money invested in condos where we are living and that are for sale as I write this. It seems that this crackdown is not taking in account people who are too young to retire, and have money every month coming from outside Thailand. I think the people who make the law should make a Visa exception, where you can show 1 year for bank notes showing that you make +60,000 baht /month from outside Thailand and be granted a Visa to stay. Let's be honest, Thailand is not UK or Germany. Just look at the roads, the train, the construction value and in general the level of maintenance of everything. Who will spend his money in BK hospital, buy over expensive condos, or just run a decent bakery? Well we are moving out, and see how Thailand will do once the border are removed with the 2015 Issean. It's gona be fun. We can live anywhere in the world. It happens that we love Thailand, our girlfriends and the ease of live here. But too many regulation make it difficult to stay, and other place have much better Visa rules. - Cambodia gives you a work permit and unlimited stay without question. - Philipines gives you 6 month and unlimited extension. Sure these place are not as ready as Pattaya to welcome us, but I think our money spent there will change that quickly. Make a bakery there and no have any problems of paperwork, and be the first to be in the place in Sihanoukville for example, the city that has the biggest investment and growth in all Asia last year? There is a falang war right now, people who have a legitimate Visa punching the ones who where doing border runs... Well stop the fight. We are all coming in Thailand because it is an easy going and cheap country. But this is from the past, now you need to pay 2 EUR + for a simple grapaow gai, condos are more expensive than in Miami per square/meter, police check driving license every corner, buses are aligned on the road at the point that even motorbike cannot drive, you need to carry your passport everywhere you go, you need to notify the immigration when you visit someone in another region of Thailand, no more visa extension. And who is going to learn Thai with an ED visa? What is the incentive to do so? Understanding your Thai girlfriend? She speak Issean anyway! Find you a job in Thailand? You cannot find a job Thailand: it is illegal! The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) and place where you cannot find a job as a falang: stupid idea. Good luck with your new rule game and try to find a way to keep the 'good' farang, or see your economic figures next year Who earns interest on money in the bank in Singapore? OB Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand I do just not very much thats all... Edited August 8, 2014 by Soutpeel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 What is Thailand Elite Program? THB 500k, stay 5 year visa, no problem...you said you have money so no problem ? yes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGabs Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 In whatever situation Thailand is a bad option as a hub, or for long stays or to live, I like the culture, the nature, food but really there are a lot of things that stinks literally. And thinking the same with these progressive rules who knows when they will stop, back to democracy etc. Probably this is just a good moment to leave Thailand because who really knows what new actions they will take, a revolutionary thai che, invasion or expansions to the frontier temple, cleaning the south censuring all the media with acceptableness collateral damage, really these things start like this I am not so optimist right now, bad experiences in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikkoid66 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Is it trolls day? They seems to be out and in good shape. What is Thailand Elite Program? and btw the reason I am upset that I have to leave, is because I have a girlfriend I love, and she has a boy, we stay together 3 years but I will have to leave her behind. She makes 8500 baht / month working in a hotel in an Island, and it is a quite sad situation. Did you not read the very first reply to your OP? Thailand Elite Program??! Haha, Ok this is just incredible. Paying like 2 Million baht to leave in Thailand? ? If I was stupid doing things like this I would not have money in my bank for a long time. Cost less to move and live in Singapore, Japan, and have 20 MBs Internet that works, no electric cuts when it is raining, walls that are thick enough to not listen your neighbors kii in their bathroom. Have you tried the View Talay crap? The visa issue is a big one, but I am not going to spend 2M baht for that, not worth it! These people in Thailand have such a big head! Get real, Thailand in 2014 is not Thailand in 2004. find me a beach with no plastic bottle in Thailand!? Edited August 8, 2014 by nikkoid66 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanbat Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I am here for 4 years but I have my 2 best friends who are coming in Thailand for more than 15 years. For long time the Visa system in Thailand was allowing people who have money and just want to stay here for early retirement to stay. This time is over. My friends and I are all moving out for the same reason, so I suppose all the people in the same situation are doing the same. I spend about 1 Million Baht / year in this country, not working here, just because I have the money and I spend it. My friends are in the same situation, some earning interest on their money blocked in Singapore, some because they have a lot of land in their main country and get the rents from the lands, some because they are earning royalties on music and films. I have royalties from software I sell on the web. None of us have a job here. But with the new visa rules we are all forced to exit the country, and Thailand will have to say bye bye to the 'good' falangs who provided Millions each, not counting the money invested in condos where we are living and that are for sale as I write this. It seems that this crackdown is not taking in account people who are too young to retire, and have money every month coming from outside Thailand. I think the people who make the law should make a Visa exception, where you can show 1 year for bank notes showing that you make +60,000 baht /month from outside Thailand and be granted a Visa to stay. Let's be honest, Thailand is not UK or Germany. Just look at the roads, the train, the construction value and in general the level of maintenance of everything. Who will spend his money in BK hospital, buy over expensive condos, or just run a decent bakery? Well we are moving out, and see how Thailand will do once the border are removed with the 2015 Issean. It's gona be fun. We can live anywhere in the world. It happens that we love Thailand, our girlfriends and the ease of live here. But too many regulation make it difficult to stay, and other place have much better Visa rules. - Cambodia gives you a work permit and unlimited stay without question. - Philipines gives you 6 month and unlimited extension. Sure these place are not as ready as Pattaya to welcome us, but I think our money spent there will change that quickly. Make a bakery there and no have any problems of paperwork, and be the first to be in the place in Sihanoukville for example, the city that has the biggest investment and growth in all Asia last year? There is a falang war right now, people who have a legitimate Visa punching the ones who where doing border runs... Well stop the fight. We are all coming in Thailand because it is an easy going and cheap country. But this is from the past, now you need to pay 2 EUR + for a simple grapaow gai, condos are more expensive than in Miami per square/meter, police check driving license every corner, buses are aligned on the road at the point that even motorbike cannot drive, you need to carry your passport everywhere you go, you need to notify the immigration when you visit someone in another region of Thailand, no more visa extension. And who is going to learn Thai with an ED visa? What is the incentive to do so? Understanding your Thai girlfriend? She speak Issean anyway! Find you a job in Thailand? You cannot find a job Thailand: it is illegal! The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) and place where you cannot find a job as a falang: stupid idea. Good luck with your new rule game and try to find a way to keep the 'good' farang, or see your economic figures next year Who earns interest on money in the bank in Singapore? OB Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Is it trolls day? They seems to be out and in good shape. What is Thailand Elite Program? and btw the reason I am upset that I have to leave, is because I have a girlfriend I love, and she has a boy, we stay together 3 years but I will have to leave her behind. She makes 8500 baht / month working in a hotel in an Island, and it is a quite sad situation. Did you not read the very first reply to your OP? Haha, Ok this is just incredible. Paying like 2 Million baht to leave in Thailand? <deleted>? If I was stupid doing things like this I would not have money in my bank for a long time. Cost less to move and live in Singapore, Japan, and have 20 MBs Internet that works, no electric cuts when it is raining, walls that are thick enough to not listen your neighbors kii in their bathroom. Have you tried the View Talay crap? The visa issue is a big one, but I am not going to spend 2M baht for that, not worth it! These people in Thailand have such a big head! Get real, Thailand in 2014 is not Thailand in 2004. find me a beach with no plastic bottle in Thailand!? why you spend THB 2.0 million ?....TE 5 year visa = THB 500k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkoid66 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Is it trolls day? They seems to be out and in good shape. What is Thailand Elite Program? and btw the reason I am upset that I have to leave, is because I have a girlfriend I love, and she has a boy, we stay together 3 years but I will have to leave her behind. She makes 8500 baht / month working in a hotel in an Island, and it is a quite sad situation. Did you not read the very first reply to your OP? Haha, Ok this is just incredible. Paying like 2 Million baht to leave in Thailand? <deleted>? If I was stupid doing things like this I would not have money in my bank for a long time. Cost less to move and live in Singapore, Japan, and have 20 MBs Internet that works, no electric cuts when it is raining, walls that are thick enough to not listen your neighbors kii in their bathroom. Have you tried the View Talay crap? The visa issue is a big one, but I am not going to spend 2M baht for that, not worth it! These people in Thailand have such a big head! Get real, Thailand in 2014 is not Thailand in 2004. find me a beach with no plastic bottle in Thailand!? why you spend THB 2.0 million ?....TE 5 year visa = THB 500k Ah? ok it is for 5 years? Maybe I should read in details. If it is for 5 years, it is maybe more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted August 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) I happen to agree with the general 'gist' of the OP's words and emotions - regardless of however much his stated position is 'over the top'. I am an older guy so his issues are not my issues - BUT for those who can pass the test of self subsistence at a fairly high level... I think Thailand is shooting itself in the foot for not providing some manner or means of allowing these type younger folks to stay... So give them a means test, have them sign an iron clad agreement that upon sentence of deportation and banned for 20 years that they will not take a job in Thailand or start a business based in Thailand.. or earn money of any kind from Thais or foreigners in Thailand... Good Grief when does the illogic end? I was young once as these guys are now ... I do not envy them nor am I jealous of them ... as some of you folks seem to be. There are legitimate people like this person. I don't assume his story is a lie because I have no evidence otherwise - nor does anyone else... I can only strongly suggest to some of you old - smug and yes jealous curmudgeons - that you get a life. Edited August 8, 2014 by JDGRUEN 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 For some reason when I read the op my mind played it back with a Russian voice. Anyway mr op - don't jet the door hot u on the way out. U have made a enough reasons for u to leave. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkoid66 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Anyway my point was that there is a missing Visa in Thailand, the equivalent of the "Exceptional Ability" Visa in the USA. People who are successful in business, or have done something out of the ordinary should be able to come here to bring their brain and experience in this country (their money too). But something that is not only based on old retired falang or people who are running a local business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanbat Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I am here for 4 years but I have my 2 best friends who are coming in Thailand for more than 15 years. For long time the Visa system in Thailand was allowing people who have money and just want to stay here for early retirement to stay. This time is over. My friends and I are all moving out for the same reason, so I suppose all the people in the same situation are doing the same. I spend about 1 Million Baht / year in this country, not working here, just because I have the money and I spend it. My friends are in the same situation, some earning interest on their money blocked in Singapore, some because they have a lot of land in their main country and get the rents from the lands, some because they are earning royalties on music and films. I have royalties from software I sell on the web. None of us have a job here. But with the new visa rules we are all forced to exit the country, and Thailand will have to say bye bye to the 'good' falangs who provided Millions each, not counting the money invested in condos where we are living and that are for sale as I write this. It seems that this crackdown is not taking in account people who are too young to retire, and have money every month coming from outside Thailand. I think the people who make the law should make a Visa exception, where you can show 1 year for bank notes showing that you make +60,000 baht /month from outside Thailand and be granted a Visa to stay. Let's be honest, Thailand is not UK or Germany. Just look at the roads, the train, the construction value and in general the level of maintenance of everything. Who will spend his money in BK hospital, buy over expensive condos, or just run a decent bakery? Well we are moving out, and see how Thailand will do once the border are removed with the 2015 Issean. It's gona be fun. We can live anywhere in the world. It happens that we love Thailand, our girlfriends and the ease of live here. But too many regulation make it difficult to stay, and other place have much better Visa rules. - Cambodia gives you a work permit and unlimited stay without question. - Philipines gives you 6 month and unlimited extension. Sure these place are not as ready as Pattaya to welcome us, but I think our money spent there will change that quickly. Make a bakery there and no have any problems of paperwork, and be the first to be in the place in Sihanoukville for example, the city that has the biggest investment and growth in all Asia last year? There is a falang war right now, people who have a legitimate Visa punching the ones who where doing border runs... Well stop the fight. We are all coming in Thailand because it is an easy going and cheap country. But this is from the past, now you need to pay 2 EUR + for a simple grapaow gai, condos are more expensive than in Miami per square/meter, police check driving license every corner, buses are aligned on the road at the point that even motorbike cannot drive, you need to carry your passport everywhere you go, you need to notify the immigration when you visit someone in another region of Thailand, no more visa extension. And who is going to learn Thai with an ED visa? What is the incentive to do so? Understanding your Thai girlfriend? She speak Issean anyway! Find you a job in Thailand? You cannot find a job Thailand: it is illegal! The Thai language is the less useful language you will learn in your life, only spoken in some part of Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) and place where you cannot find a job as a falang: stupid idea. Good luck with your new rule game and try to find a way to keep the 'good' farang, or see your economic figures next year Who earns interest on money in the bank in Singapore? OB Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand I do just not very much thats all... Around a cup of coffee a month like me? OB Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Anyway my point was that there is a missing Visa in Thailand, the equivalent of the "Exceptional Ability" Visa in the USA. People who are successful in business, or have done something out of the ordinary should be able to come here to bring their brain and experience in this country (their money too). But something that is not only based on old retired falang or people who are running a local business. Do you feel that you would qualify for a USA National Interest Waiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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