Thai actress petitions NCPO to execute rapists

[Thai at Heart]

Ms Pannada should offer to execute the rapists personally through suffocation by sitting naked on their faces.

 

 

I am not sure if this is appropriate, but I did laugh out loud.....

[seajae]

well if they are going to accept petitions to execute people I think the TV members should start one to have thai women that take a farangs money/house etc through false promises and lies executed. Got to admit there are a lot of them that do it and with the threat of execution hanging over their heads it might make them think a bit more before attempting to rob them blind. It might also stop a lot of the tower jumps and misery we keep reading about in here. Maybe even start one for the people that make all the crap soaps that this "star" is a part of.......

[fab4]

 

Unlike the junta to be associated with and publicise a "cause" that is perceived to be "popular" with the citizens of Thailand 

I don't think it's the NCPO seeking publicity here.

 

 

No, you're probably right................

 

[wotamess]

Thai male logic would be to murder the rape victim then no witness for sure and use a condom to reduce DNA detection. Death sentence for murder would be more appropriate and a minimum life sentence if found guilty of rape.  

 

Without question this is what would happen.

[wotamess]

Want to stop rape public castration Should do the trick. I'm all for that then he won't have excuse the pun the b-lls to do it again.

 

Latest evidence suggests that "Jack the Ripper" had a medical condition that resulted in the amputation of his penis.

 

Although castration or genital mutilation does sound like a compelling response, it should be noted that many rapists harbour unnatural hatred towards women which drives them to manifest there behaviour in such a disgusting way. Where this is the case, castration or genital mutilation will in all likelihood transform a rapist into a murderer.

[GeckosDiving]

 

 

Well I for one firmly believe in an "Eye for an Eye" and please don't give me this crap about the death penalty is not the answer !! Scumbags like rapists and child molesters should not be allowed to walk this earth plain and simple !! The only good rapist is a dead rapist !!

If it's the answer why doesn't it work in preventing the crimes it is applied to?

I would think because rapists and child molesters always think they will never get caught, their to smart !!
 

 
With smarts like this you should run for God.

Well it doesn't seem like he's doing anything about it now does it !!!

[tonyboy33]

Full Castration for rapists would be my preference over the death penalty. Gives them time to think about their deed.

 

[verywierd]

I'd support the execution of rapists so long as false rape accusers are also subject to the same compulsory penalty.

[ThailandNoob]

 

The crime against the 13 year old girl is already punishable by the death penalty as it's a rape and murder of a child.
 
Most murderers don't receive the death penalty.
 
If murderers don't get the death penalty when it's available then I can't really see it being handed down as a sentence to rapists who decide not to kill their victims.

A paedophiles should definitely be executed.
 

 
Paedophiles just were born with a different kind of sexuality. They have to be guided and therapied by specilized doctors to get along with their different orientation. Do you want the kill all gay, lesbian, bisexual people because they are not straight as you - maybe? If so, you should be the first!
 

Let's say someone is born with such an orientation from birth, it is still not an excuse. Such a person will definitely be aware of their tendencies, just like gay people are. And if they know that they might be a risk to children, then they have a responsibility to avoid situations where they might be tempted to offend.

If they let themselves get in situations where they have a chance to molest a kid, and end up ruining the kid's life, then they deserve no sympathy at all.

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[wotamess]

 

 

 

The crime against the 13 year old girl is already punishable by the death penalty as it's a rape and murder of a child.
 
Most murderers don't receive the death penalty.
 
If murderers don't get the death penalty when it's available then I can't really see it being handed down as a sentence to rapists who decide not to kill their victims.

A paedophiles should definitely be executed.
 

 
Paedophiles just were born with a different kind of sexuality. They have to be guided and therapied by specilized doctors to get along with their different orientation. Do you want the kill all gay, lesbian, bisexual people because they are not straight as you - maybe? If so, you should be the first!
 

Let's say someone is born with such an orientation from birth, it is still not an excuse. Such a person will definitely be aware of their tendencies, just like gay people are. And if they know that they might be a risk to children, then they have a responsibility to avoid situations where they might be tempted to offend.

If they let themselves get in situations where they have a chance to molest a kid, and end up ruining the kid's life, then they deserve no sympathy at all.

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At least this is a well thought out argument. OK - let's say you've just discovered an unnerving desire to commit any crime and want to avoid such a situation. Let us further suggest that you have the typical upbringing and education of a Thai male who lives out in the sticks and is for example 18 years old (for the sake of argument).

 

What do you do? Stop a policeman? See your doctor? What do you think a person such as described above might do? - let's further suggest that his IQ doesn't run into three figures...

 

You & I might believe we know right from wrong, but we can never know that to which we are ignorant; and ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. Asides from overt political propaganda, I have seen little evidence of the use of popular media for the purpose of public education. This applies to most countries, not just Thailand.

 

The developed country with the highest and earliest educational emphasis on sexual education is The Netherlands. The country with the least and "if" is the USA, where typically the God-squad protest against any form of sexual education within schools. The highest rate of teenage pregnancy is in the USA, the lowest in The Netherlands - can anyone see a pattern emerging?

 

"Kill 'em, Flog 'em, cut their balls off!" - firstly, it's too late. Secondly, it simply does not work!!

 

In the days before any useful kind of policing, people could be executed for stealing a loaf of bread - thousands of unfortunates went to the gallows whereas the roads were all but impassable - highway robbers were everywhere, and your throat could easily be slit for a days wages. Why not? Chances of being caught were negligible. Men - do you know why your jacket fastens the way it does? It was so your Great-Great-Great-Grandfather could easily reach his sword or pistol! No man of any means would ever dare leave home without some form of "protection", and the well-to-do would always have an armed escort. In spite of the threat of a death sentence, the probability of being victim to any crime was far greater then than it is now.

 

If you can properly educate, avoiding dogma (Church!) you will eliminate most of the problem. If you follow this with effective policing coupled with a properly functioning prosecution system that means criminals will not get away with their crimes, then you will no doubt stand a chance of reducing the problem. It can never be eradicated, but it can be radically diminished. At this stage, most of these obscene acts will be perpetrated by mentally ill people who would never be competent for judicial sentencing in any case. Genuinely crazy people don't get executed, they wind up dribbling out the rest of their days in secure mental institutions.

 

[DogNo1]

"In addition to raising the maximum penalty for rape to execution, the petition calls for a harsher penalty for those guilty of committing rapes on public transportation."

I wonder what harsher penalty she has in mind. Perhaps drawing and quartering as was done to Mel Gibson's character in the movie Braveheart?

[Jonmarleesco]

Ms. Panadda is famous in Thailand, no doubt. Beyond these shores, doubtful. But she obviously thinks that her opinion should count for something more than the average Thai voter.

Problem with her view of the death penalty for rape is two-fold: first, there are, surprisingly, equally serious, as well as more serious, crimes than rape, something I don't doubt a raped woman would accept, but with which, for example, I'm damned sure the parents of a murdered child would agree. Second - equally surprisingly, I'm sure - is that while she and her supporters might assume every accused rapist guilty, several of them won't be; not least because of the fact of false accusations - heaven forbid.

I am not one who believes the massaged statistics of governments of countries that have already abolished the capital option; statistics that merely support their questionable claims that the death penalty doesn't deter capital crimes. I'm sure that it would prove/is an effective deterrent for many would-be murderers. But it is irreversible. No going back. No post-penalty appeal.

Would Panadda be prepared to pull the trigger, or the lever, to dispatch an accused individual found guilty of a heinous crime ... only for evidence to later emerge, casting doubt on the original verdict?

[wotamess]

"In addition to raising the maximum penalty for rape to execution, the petition calls for a harsher penalty for those guilty of committing rapes on public transportation."

I wonder what harsher penalty she has in mind. Perhaps drawing and quartering as was done to Mel Gibson's character in the movie Braveheart?

 

Someone earlier voiced a similar comment, and yes - it proves (dare I say it?) the phallasy upon which this idiotic munter-vote has been proposed.

 

OK, I can see the point that public transportation is an environment where you should feel and indeed be safe - I think that's where this "harsher penalty" is coming from; in the same light that police get harsher sentences than the general public (in most countries) for committing the same crimes as lay-people.

 

Unfortunately, this suggestion has been gift-wrapped by an abject moron whose only means of entering the doors of the NCPO command was her supposed status as a former beauty queen and current drivel-monger. Amazing where a little fame can transport an idiot eh? No, I'm forgetting Bush Jnr...

 

This whole enterprise is nothing but a publicity stunt. See it as such and let it wash under the carpet - I'm sure the General had a nice cup of coffee listening to this faltering lunatic before he had her exquisitely chucked off the premises.

 

Yeah, she's so frikkin' stupid, but you might, mightn't you...

[wotamess]

Ms. Panadda is famous in Thailand, no doubt. Beyond these shores, doubtful. But she obviously thinks that her opinion should count for something more than the average Thai voter.

Problem with her view of the death penalty for rape is two-fold: first, there are, surprisingly, equally serious, as well as more serious, crimes than rape, something I don't doubt a raped woman would accept, but with which, for example, I'm damned sure the parents of a murdered child would agree. Second - equally surprisingly, I'm sure - is that while she and her supporters might assume every accused rapist guilty, several of them won't be; not least because of the fact of false accusations - heaven forbid.

I am not one who believes the massaged statistics of governments of countries that have already abolished the capital option; statistics that merely support their questionable claims that the death penalty doesn't deter capital crimes. I'm sure that it would prove/is an effective deterrent for many would-be murderers. But it is irreversible. No going back. No post-penalty appeal.

Would Panadda be prepared to pull the trigger, or the lever, to dispatch an accused individual found guilty of a heinous crime ... only for evidence to later emerge, casting doubt on the original verdict?

 

Hi Jonmarleesco,

 

Not sure exactly where you're coming from with this: "the massaged statistics of governments of countries that have already abolished the capital option; statistics that merely support their questionable claims that the death penalty doesn't deter capital crimes" - certainly in the UK capital punishment is and has been regularly debated and indeed voted upon.

 

Several of the latter hangings (again UK) have been posthumously overturned (I'm sure they felt better for that) for a variety of reasons; innocence notwithstanding. 

 

Even the supposed best judicial systems can't get it right, so is it OK to kill an innocent person? - Do we judicially kill the judge responsible for the incorrect judicial murder? Further more, where do you draw the line? OK - a 23 year old who rapes and murders a 13 year old child can easily be seen by most to be fit for a bullet. What about judicial rape? How about two equally consenting under-aged kids? Technically this is rape. Do we kill both?

 

Finally, I see that you are not convinced that the death penalty is in fact not a suitable deterrent: look at the crime statistics of any state or country that employs this measure against those who do not. I think you'll find that those that employ the death penalty have higher criminal stats than those which do not; but I would be happy to hear your views.
 

[ThailandNoob]

[quote name="wotamess" post="8230795" timestamp="1407777411"][quote name="ThailandNoob" post="8230378" timestamp="1407768941"] [quote name="sawadee1947" post="8227924" timestamp="1407733789"] [quote name="chooka" post="8226679" timestamp="1407714173"] [quote name="ukrules" post="8226640" timestamp="1407713150"]The crime against the 13 year old girl is already punishable by the death penalty as it's a rape and murder of a child.
 
Most murderers don't receive the death penalty.
 
If murderers don't get the death penalty when it's available then I can't really see it being handed down as a sentence to rapists who decide not to kill their victims.[/quote]A paedophiles should definitely be executed.
 [/quote] 
Paedophiles just were born with a different kind of sexuality. They have to be guided and therapied by specilized doctors to get along with their different orientation. Do you want the kill all gay, lesbian, bisexual people because they are not straight as you - maybe? If so, you should be the first!
 [/quote]
Let's say someone is born with such an orientation from birth, it is still not an excuse. Such a person will definitely be aware of their tendencies, just like gay people are. And if they know that they might be a risk to children, then they have a responsibility to avoid situations where they might be tempted to offend.

If they let themselves get in situations where they have a chance to molest a kid, and end up ruining the kid's life, then they deserve no sympathy at all.

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 [/quote]
 
At least this is a well thought out argument. OK - let's say you've just discovered an unnerving desire to commit any crime and want to avoid such a situation. Let us further suggest that you have the typical upbringing and education of a Thai male who lives out in the sticks and is for example 18 years old (for the sake of argument).
 
What do you do? Stop a policeman? See your doctor? What do you think a person such as described above might do? - let's further suggest that his IQ doesn't run into three figures...
 
You & I might believe we know right from wrong, but we can never know that to which we are ignorant; and ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. Asides from overt political propaganda, I have seen little evidence of the use of popular media for the purpose of public education. This applies to most countries, not just Thailand.
 
The developed country with the highest and earliest educational emphasis on sexual education is The Netherlands. The country with the least and "if" is the USA, where typically the God-squad protest against any form of sexual education within schools. The highest rate of teenage pregnancy is in the USA, the lowest in The Netherlands - can anyone see a pattern emerging?
 
"Kill 'em, Flog 'em, cut their balls off!" - firstly, it's too late. Secondly, it simply does not work!!
 
In the days before any useful kind of policing, people could be executed for stealing a loaf of bread - thousands of unfortunates went to the gallows whereas the roads were all but impassable - highway robbers were everywhere, and your throat could easily be slit for a days wages. Why not? Chances of being caught were negligible. Men - do you know why your jacket fastens the way it does? It was so your Great-Great-Great-Grandfather could easily reach his sword or pistol! No man of any means would ever dare leave home without some form of "protection", and the well-to-do would always have an armed escort. In spite of the threat of a death sentence, the probability of being victim to any crime was far greater then than it is now.
 
If you can properly educate, avoiding dogma (Church!) you will eliminate most of the problem. If you follow this with effective policing coupled with a properly functioning prosecution system that means criminals will not get away with their crimes, then you will no doubt stand a chance of reducing the problem. It can never be eradicated, but it can be radically diminished. At this stage, most of these obscene acts will be perpetrated by mentally ill people who would never be competent for judicial sentencing in any case. Genuinely crazy people don't get executed, they wind up dribbling out the rest of their days in secure mental institutions.

 [/quote]

If someone discovers that they have paedophilic tendencies, then they should live a lifestyle that gives them as little as possible contact with children (e.g. in Australia I would say that they should live in the Outback on the mines).

I don't see what education or the lack of it has to do with anything. It is basic human instinct to know that paedophilia is wrong.

And I don't see how sex education could substantially reduce the rate of rape and paedophilia. These are a completely different kettle of fish to teenage pregnancy.

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[wotamess]

@ThailandNoob:

 

"If someone discovers that they have paedophilic tendencies, then they should live a lifestyle that gives them as little as possible contact with children (e.g. in Australia I would say that they should live in the Outback on the mines).

I don't see what education or the lack of it has to do with anything. It is basic human instinct to know that paedophilia is wrong.

And I don't see how sex education could substantially reduce the rate of rape and paedophilia. These are a completely different kettle of fish to teenage pregnancy."

 

There are countless stories of people who have ruined their own and the lives of others by forcing themselves to live lives contrary to their own sexuality; failure or unwillingness to recognise ones own sexuality surely cannot be that far removed from the mind of a deviant who refuses to accept their own tendencies and become a ticking time-bomb. Anyway, an interesting discussion.

 

Here's something that I found pretty interesting, http://www.fidh.org/IMG/pdf/Thailand411-2.pdf I found this whilst looking through wikipedia's "Use of capital punishment by country" I quote from page 19, under the heading "Sexual Offences":

 

Sexual offences
- Rape of a woman resulting in death.
- Rape of a girl resulting in serious injury and/or death.
- Any act of indecency against a minor of 15 years old or older
resulting in death.
- Any act of indecency against a minor younger than 15 years
of age resulting in death.
- Procuring, recruiting, luring, enticing or coercing a woman or
minor for any act of indecency.

 

The document appears to have been compiled in 2005, so I don't know whether there have been any constitutional changes since then, but it would appear that there is already a death penalty contingency for rape of a girl where "serious injury" has resulted.

 

I find the last entry a little surprising; apparently you can be put to death for pimping!

[DogNo1]

Wotamess: "phallasy" Nice pun!

[mccw]

Execute the rapists, murderers, pedofiles, corrupt politicians, maybe violent robbery or GBH after second offence. Might not deter the criminals but it will take them out of chance to re-offend at least!