Thai's and contraceptives?

[Crazy chef 1]

When I first got to Thailand women had 6 children each. As I got older and less active the birth rate also declined. Now it's 1 child per woman. If this is my fault I apologize and you young guys better get to work. I really think they should start having more children not less. I think most Thais engaged in business would agree with this. Unless you want labor to cost a lot more money get out there and start having kids.

i completely agree with you two or three kids are ok as long BOTH parents take care of them ( not the grand parents) and they get love,healthy food,parenting,education and morality tought and not just kept alive!!!

Grandparents took care of native North American kids. If good enough for American good enough for Thai.

holy mackerel- anybody told you we are living now in 2014/2557?

BTW if that is true what you are saying about north American kids- thats' explaining a lot...

[Seastallion]

You seem to be quite intimate with your female staff.

Does your wife know?

yes she knows. if you work for more than three years together you chat about almost everything.

Things must have changed, OP.

I remember, I was with my staff for 18 years and the only thing we spoke about was work and deadlines.

Maybe you're not as hansum a man as the OP?

[Seastallion]

Sex education. It's an education thing. Parents don't talk about it, teachers don't teach it. It is taboo.

Apparently a lot of foreign punters visiting naughty bars have the same problem ,Always asking where and how to get viagra but to cheap to buy a family pack of durex.

Health issues aside (test and so on) that should be rewarded. Thailand needs more children and bigger kids to play football and taller children to play basketball.

Are you Catholic?

[Seastallion]

When I first got to Thailand women had 6 children each. As I got older and less active the birth rate also declined. Now it's 1 child per woman. If this is my fault I apologize and you young guys better get to work. I really think they should start having more children not less. I think most Thais engaged in business would agree with this. Unless you want labor to cost a lot more money get out there and start having kids.

i completely agree with you two or three kids are ok as long BOTH parents take care of them ( not the grand parents) and they get love,healthy food,parenting,education and morality tought and not just kept alive!!!

Grandparents took care of native North American kids. If good enough for American good enough for Thai.

Really? That's quite arrogant.

[Crazy chef 1]

You seem to be quite intimate with your female staff.

Does your wife know?

yes she knows. if you work for more than three years together you chat about almost everything.

Things must have changed, OP.

I remember, I was with my staff for 18 years and the only thing we spoke about was work and deadlines.

Maybe you're not as hansum a man as the OP?

don't think so- usually the Greeks are well desired by the oposite sex. remember Costa Cordalis and Demis Roussus and ....,,Costas.

[thailiketoo]

When I first got to Thailand women had 6 children each. As I got older and less active the birth rate also declined. Now it's 1 child per woman. If this is my fault I apologize and you young guys better get to work. I really think they should start having more children not less. I think most Thais engaged in business would agree with this. Unless you want labor to cost a lot more money get out there and start having kids.

i completely agree with you two or three kids are ok as long BOTH parents take care of them ( not the grand parents) and they get love,healthy food,parenting,education and morality tought and not just kept alive!!!

Grandparents took care of native North American kids. If good enough for American good enough for Thai.

Really? That's quite arrogant.

Would it be better if I said Canadians? OK. If it's good enough for Canadians it is good enough for Thais . Happy?

Edited August 14, 2014 by thailiketoo

[oldthaihand99]

"i just want to know why most Thai's aren't using any contraceptives. the most of my staff..."

What your staff do tell us nothing about what most Thais do.

Percentage using contraceptives:

Thailand 72.2 % [1996-7]

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0193123.html

Thailand 72% [2000]
Cambodia 24%
China 84%

USA 76%
India 48%
Nigeria 15%

Saudi Arabia 32%
Philippines 46%
Indonesia 57%

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Health/Contraception

2011 stats/United Nations:

http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/contraceptive2011/contraceptive2011.htm

"The Third Contraceptive Prevalence Survey in Thailand was conducted in 1984. Results indicate a continuation of the rapid rise in contraceptive use among married couples that has been taking place over the past 15 years. Prevalence levels are approaching those common in economically advanced countries. Sterilization is now the most common method, although a fairly broad range of other methods is also widely used."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3798491

[A1Str8]

You answered your question. It is a cultural, religious educational thing in that order.

Cultural because they actually managed to convince each other that getting pregnant even if one is not able raise the child properly is a cool thing.

Religious because they were brainwashed to think that it is a sin to have abortion. Apparently, being irresponsible and messing up a child's entire life is not considered a sin at all.

Educational because they are not educated on this subject appropriately therefore have no idea what should be done to prevent trouble.

[chrisinth]

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Sex education. It's an education thing. Parents don't talk about it, teachers don't teach it. It is taboo.

In Iceland, for example, 66 percent of births were to unmarried women. Gee Iceland must really hide the information!

In Ireland, 100% of births were to women..............

[thailiketoo]

You answered your question. It is a cultural, religious educational thing in that order.

Cultural because they actually managed to convince each other that getting pregnant even if one is not able raise the child properly is a cool thing.

Religious because they were brainwashed to think that it is a sin to have abortion. Apparently, being irresponsible and messing up a child's entire life is not considered a sin at all.

Educational because they are not educated on this subject appropriately therefore have no idea what should be done to prevent trouble.

6301-12212-1-SM.pdf

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Northeastern Thai Adolescents’ Perceptions of Being Unmarried and Pregnant.

Are you sure?

[Thongkorn]

Why don't you give them free condoms? Saves a lot of maternity leave.

they do

[Beetlejuice]

Apparently, some go to extremes:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/751409-why-thai-women-cut-off-their-husbands-penises/

They will show you photos too!

I always say, mine is much bigger than that.

(90% of the time I'm telling lies)

So why don`t you say; you show me yours and I`ll show you mine?

Apart from the unwanted pregnancies aspects, the important issues here are that of contracting STDs, HIV and aids.

Many of these young people for some reasons consider that if a friend suddenly gets promoted to a GF or BF than that lets them off the hook for using condoms. They believe that just because they consider themselves as being in a relationship somehow gives them immunity from STDs. Usually these relationships are brief before they move on to their next sexual partners. Some of these young persons are placing themselves at huge risk and I have no doubts there are going to be casualties in the not too distant future.

[geronimo]

Therevis no word in Thai for "planning" perhaps this goes for families too!

[thailiketoo]

Therevis no word in Thai for "planning" perhaps this goes for families too!

การวางแผน

laying, machination, manoeuvre, maneuver, mapping, planning

การออกแบบ

planning, styling

การทำแผนผัง

planning

การกะโครง

planning

การทำแผนที่

mapping, planning

การอุบาย

planning

[arunsakda]

i just want to know why most Thai's aren't using any contraceptives. the most of my staff are females and none of them are using those. they got pregnant every now and then but keep complaining about the costs. though i ask why don't take precautions? most replies: i don't know.

is it a cultural, religious or educational thing? according to my information contraceptives are available at the pharmacy.although the use of condos seems pretty rare especially among the younger generations.

just curious.

Everyone needs to get away from using this word. The proper term is pregnancy prevention or birth control. "Conception" is a ridiculous theological concept, that has no place in any legitimate discussion of human biology. Edited August 15, 2014 by arunsakda

[1BADDAT]

In Iceland, for example, 66 percent of births were to unmarried women, as were 55 percent in Sweden, 54 percent in Norway and 46 percent in Denmark. The United States unwed rate of 40 percent fell in about the middle of this group of countries, about equal to that of the United Kingdom and the Netherlands.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/story?id=7575268&

So to the OP if you have even a vague idea what you are talking about what is the rate of births to unwed mothers in Thailand?

Calling it “The Great Crossover,” a report by academics and social activists shows that for the first time in history the median age of American women having babies is lower than the median age of marriage–25.7 and 26.5, respectively.

http://www.amren.com/news/2013/03/new-report-48-percent-of-first-children-born-to-unwed-mothers/

Great statistics that have nothing to do with the OP!

[thailiketoo]

In Iceland, for example, 66 percent of births were to unmarried women, as were 55 percent in Sweden, 54 percent in Norway and 46 percent in Denmark. The United States unwed rate of 40 percent fell in about the middle of this group of countries, about equal to that of the United Kingdom and the Netherlands.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/story?id=7575268&

So to the OP if you have even a vague idea what you are talking about what is the rate of births to unwed mothers in Thailand?

Calling it “The Great Crossover,” a report by academics and social activists shows that for the first time in history the median age of American women having babies is lower than the median age of marriage–25.7 and 26.5, respectively.

http://www.amren.com/news/2013/03/new-report-48-percent-of-first-children-born-to-unwed-mothers/

Great statistics that have nothing to do with the OP!

OP. "they got pregnant every now and then but keep complaining about the costs. though i ask why don't take precautions? most replies: i don't know. is it a cultural, religious or educational thing? "

The statistics show that Iceland, Sweden and America have more births to unwed mothers than Thailand. So the answer to the OP's question, "why don't take precautions? most replies: i don't know. is it a cultural?" Is no. Thais use protection far more than do Icelanders, Swedes and Americans.

[1BADDAT]

In Iceland, for example, 66 percent of births were to unmarried women, as were 55 percent in Sweden, 54 percent in Norway and 46 percent in Denmark. The United States unwed rate of 40 percent fell in about the middle of this group of countries, about equal to that of the United Kingdom and the Netherlands.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/story?id=7575268&

So to the OP if you have even a vague idea what you are talking about what is the rate of births to unwed mothers in Thailand?

Calling it “The Great Crossover,” a report by academics and social activists shows that for the first time in history the median age of American women having babies is lower than the median age of marriage–25.7 and 26.5, respectively.

http://www.amren.com/news/2013/03/new-report-48-percent-of-first-children-born-to-unwed-mothers/

Great statistics that have nothing to do with the OP!

OP. "they got pregnant every now and then but keep complaining about the costs. though i ask why don't take precautions? most replies: i don't know. is it a cultural, religious or educational thing? "

The statistics show that Iceland, Sweden and America have more births to unwed mothers than Thailand. So the answer to the OP's question, "why don't take precautions? most replies: i don't know. is it a cultural?" Is no. Thais use protection far more than do Icelanders, Swedes and Americans.

Nothing in your statistics above have anything to do with what percentage of Thais use contraception. You have picked totally unrelated statistics to try and prove a point. Maybe you should rely less on the google copy and paste method.

[thailiketoo]

Nothing in your statistics above have anything to do with what percentage of Thais use contraception. You have picked totally unrelated statistics to try and prove a point. Maybe you should rely less on the google copy and paste method.

I think the OP is about having children out of wedlock. What do you think it's about?

[1BADDAT]

Nothing in your statistics above have anything to do with what percentage of Thais use contraception. You have picked totally unrelated statistics to try and prove a point. Maybe you should rely less on the google copy and paste method.

I think the OP is about having children out of wedlock. What do you think it's about?

Here is the OP:

i just want to know why most Thai's aren't using any contraceptives. the most of my staff are females and none of them are using those. they got pregnant every now and then but keep complaining about the costs. though i ask why don't take precautions? most replies: i don't know.

is it a cultural, religious or educational thing? according to my information contraceptives are available at the pharmacy.although the use of condos seems pretty rare especially among the younger generations.

just curious.

Doesn't mention wedlock anywhere.

[thailiketoo]

Nothing in your statistics above have anything to do with what percentage of Thais use contraception. You have picked totally unrelated statistics to try and prove a point. Maybe you should rely less on the google copy and paste method.

I think the OP is about having children out of wedlock. What do you think it's about?

Here is the OP:

i just want to know why most Thai's aren't using any contraceptives. the most of my staff are females and none of them are using those. they got pregnant every now and then but keep complaining about the costs. though i ask why don't take precautions? most replies: i don't know.

is it a cultural, religious or educational thing? according to my information contraceptives are available at the pharmacy.although the use of condos seems pretty rare especially among the younger generations.

just curious.

Doesn't mention wedlock anywhere.

What do you think the OP is about? Thailand has a much lower birth rate than most other countries do you want me to quote those numbers? Why would the OP not think it admirable that married couples had children? That is why most people get married to start a family. Hence my deduction that the OP was concerned about single ladies having babies.

He can tell us if he is still reading the thread but I think his thread is about unmarried women in Thailand having babies.

[Crazy chef 1]

Nothing in your statistics above have anything to do with what percentage of Thais use contraception. You have picked totally unrelated statistics to try and prove a point. Maybe you should rely less on the google copy and paste method.

I think the OP is about having children out of wedlock. What do you think it's about?

i think ( actualy i know)that i will get my first born around the 18th of December and i am happily married. but even my wife has never used contraseptives all her life and when i ask her why ? she replied she never need one.in my home country most parents bringing their daughters to the gyn at about 15 years of age because they get sexual active and there is nothing parents can do against it,same as here but: mai bpen rai

and at the end Noy get grand mum with 32 and will get the next own one with 36.

though Mr T is my question realy so hard to understand?

[thailiketoo]

Nothing in your statistics above have anything to do with what percentage of Thais use contraception. You have picked totally unrelated statistics to try and prove a point. Maybe you should rely less on the google copy and paste method.

I think the OP is about having children out of wedlock. What do you think it's about?

i think ( actualy i know)that i will get my first born around the 18th of December and i am happily married. but even my wife has never used contraseptives all her life and when i ask her why ? she replied she never need one.in my home country most parents bringing their daughters to the gyn at about 15 years of age because they get sexual active and there is nothing parents can do against it,same as here but: mai bpen rai

and at the end Noy get grand mum with 32 and will get the next own one with 36.

though Mr T is my question realy so hard to understand?

You wrote, "in my home country most parents bringing their daughters to the gyn at about 15 years of age because they get sexual active and there is nothing parents can do against it,same as here but: mai bpen rai." So the topic is about why don't single Thais use contraceptives or why do Thais have children out of wedlock? Am I correct?

[Crazy chef 1]

Nothing in your statistics above have anything to do with what percentage of Thais use contraception. You have picked totally unrelated statistics to try and prove a point. Maybe you should rely less on the google copy and paste method.

I think the OP is about having children out of wedlock. What do you think it's about?

i think ( actualy i know)that i will get my first born around the 18th of December and i am happily married. but even my wife has never used contraseptives all her life and when i ask her why ? she replied she never need one.in my home country most parents bringing their daughters to the gyn at about 15 years of age because they get sexual active and there is nothing parents can do against it,same as here but: mai bpen rai

and at the end Noy get grand mum with 32 and will get the next own one with 36.

though Mr T is my question realy so hard to understand?

You wrote, "in my home country most parents bringing their daughters to the gyn at about 15 years of age because they get sexual active and there is nothing parents can do against it,same as here but: mai bpen rai." So the topic is about why don't single Thais use contraceptives or why do Thais have children out of wedlock? Am I correct?

no, you are not. it is about why most Thais don't use contraceptives hence the title of the topic....

[thailiketoo]

I think the OP is about having children out of wedlock. What do you think it's about?

i think ( actualy i know)that i will get my first born around the 18th of December and i am happily married. but even my wife has never used contraseptives all her life and when i ask her why ? she replied she never need one.in my home country most parents bringing their daughters to the gyn at about 15 years of age because they get sexual active and there is nothing parents can do against it,same as here but: mai bpen rai

and at the end Noy get grand mum with 32 and will get the next own one with 36.

though Mr T is my question realy so hard to understand?

You wrote, "in my home country most parents bringing their daughters to the gyn at about 15 years of age because they get sexual active and there is nothing parents can do against it,same as here but: mai bpen rai." So the topic is about why don't single Thais use contraceptives or why do Thais have children out of wedlock? Am I correct?

no, you are not. it is about why most Thais don't use contraceptives hence the title of the topic....

That contradicts what you wrote about parents bringing their daughters to the gyn but it makes the question easier to answer. If contraceptives are used the birth rate goes down if not it goes up.

The British birth rate is 1.84. Lybia is 5.58. In Iceland there are 13, per thousand born. In Thailand 11.5. per thousand and the birth rate is 1.8 In America 13.42 per thousand. So I guess the trips to the Gyn in your home country are not as effective as in Thailand. Although I don't know where you live.

If you check the birth rates Thailand is lower than 175 other countries including the UK, Sweden, France, Ireland, America and almost every other country. So I guess you are wrong and like, really wrong, Thailand birthrate 175 lowest out of 224 countries.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world.../2054rank.html

Edited August 15, 2014 by thailiketoo

[thailiketoo]

They need kids for their retirement. Duh!

U spoiled American guys rely on your government, who pays for your retirement, guess? Have you heard of the pyramid sheme?

Nonsense post. People start saving with SS and after they have put a significant amount in draw their own money out after 67 years of age. http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10035.pdf

You have been scammed by INTERNET hoaxers. Try reading and getting the real information before you post more anti American drivel.

[arunsakda]

And what of the huge variety of condoms and lubricants sold openly at every mini mart

and drugstore, not to mention over the counter availability of oral birth control drugs?

Thais must be the majority purchasing, not just our lustful singlet-wearing international

vagabonds, hopped up on Chiang Beer and generic viagara.

[Somsrisonphimai]

It is very simple answer OP, a lack of personal responsibility.

[thailiketoo]

It is very simple answer OP, a lack of personal responsibility.

Are you equating low birth rates with personal responsibility? What do you think Thailand's birth rate should be?

[Somsrisonphimai]

It is very simple answer OP, a lack of personal responsibility.

Are you equating low birth rates with personal responsibility? What do you think Thailand's birth rate should be?

No, was just answering OP's question. It is not the cultural, or religion, or education that Thais don't use contraceptive. It is about the personal responsibility. If they don't want to have children, than it is their responsibility to not have children.