Paiboon denies NCPO plans to pass amnesty bill for politicians

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Paiboon denies NCPO plans to pass amnesty bill for politicians
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Gen Paiboon Koomchaya, chief of justice affairs on the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), denied Monday that the NCPO planned to conduct an opinion survey on amnesty for political cases.

Speaking during the Inside Thailand programme on Spring News and FM97.0 MHz, Paiboon said the report by Thai Rath Online Sunday, which was quoted by several other newspapers Monday, was not true.

Thai Rath Online quoted Paiboon as saying that he had been instructed by NCPO chief Gen Prayuth to group political cases together and consider surveying opinions to find whether the public would find it acceptable to grant amnesty in certain cases.

In the report, which Thairath Online has now removed from its website, Paiboon did not mention former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra but several newspapers interpreted his reported wording as implying that the NCPO was contemplating an amnesty for Thaksin.

Paiboon cried foul Monday, saying he did not talk about Thaksin at all and noted that he had spoken only to a Thai Rath reporter and was thus at a loss to understand why he was widely quoted by several other newspapers.

He attacked the unnamed reporter of "daydreaming". "What poll? Why would we want organise a poll. The NCPO has no need to touch cases of politicians who violated the laws," Paiboon said.

Paiboon quoted Prayuth as insisting that legal procedures involving political cases had to proceed and that politicians would have to defend themselves in court.

"The NCPO has never tried to interfere in independent organidations or influence the court's decisions or the prosecutions' outcomes. Politicians who committed wrongdoing shall face punishment according to the law. The NCPO chief has ordered me not to intervene or exert influence otherwise the NCPO will be accused of persecution," Paiboon said.

"I can do nothing with their lawsuits. They need to settle their own cases. These are individual rights."

Paiboon said from now on he would restrict his interviews to bills forwarded to the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) in accordance with the roadmap of the junta chief.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Paiboon-denies-NCPO-plans-to-pass-amnesty-bill-for-30241146.html


-- The Nation 2014-08-18

[jaidam]

What good is a "political" amnesty for Thaksin? The crimes which he is accused of are not political in nature, they are common theft, murder, genocide, and corruption charges, nothing remotely political about them except for that Thaksin was a politician while carrying out his crime spree.

If Prayuth decides to rush through an amnesty for Thaksin(remember the Yutthasak tape where Thaksin brags he "trusts" Prayuth) he will only have himself to blame when Thailand is burdened with a successive family dictatorship, no matter how sweet the personal rewards would appear to be for such a disastrous move.

[ginjag]

What good is a "political" amnesty for Thaksin? The crimes which he is accused of are not political in nature, they are common theft, murder, genocide, and corruption charges, nothing remotely political about them except for that Thaksin was a politician while carrying out his crime spree.

If Prayuth decides to rush through an amnesty for Thaksin(remember the Yutthasak tape where Thaksin brags he "trusts" Prayuth) he will only have himself to blame when Thailand is burdened with a successive family dictatorship, no matter how sweet the personal rewards would appear to be for such a disastrous move.

Note to all apologists-----if this were to happen I would be in opposition to the military government.----ginjag.

[Thailand]

What good is a "political" amnesty for Thaksin? The crimes which he is accused of are not political in nature, they are common theft, murder, genocide, and corruption charges, nothing remotely political about them except for that Thaksin was a politician while carrying out his crime spree.

If Prayuth decides to rush through an amnesty for Thaksin(remember the Yutthasak tape where Thaksin brags he "trusts" Prayuth) he will only have himself to blame when Thailand is burdened with a successive family dictatorship, no matter how sweet the personal rewards would appear to be for such a disastrous move.

Note to all apologists-----if this were to happen I would be in opposition to the military government.----ginjag.

And I am sure many would be concerned for you should such a situation occur.

Probably just another of the deals being done or contemplated.

[EricBerg]

It would be a bad thing to do to give amnesty. It means the political top can do what they want - steal, cheat, lie, take/demand bribes etc. - in the long run they will be free from prosecution. And never go to prison. Then all that is accomplished so far is worthless. It will mean business as usual. High and corrupt politicians, the red bull heir and similar lowlifes can go on with their devious ways. The Thai people will suffer.

[ginjag]

What good is a "political" amnesty for Thaksin? The crimes which he is accused of are not political in nature, they are common theft, murder, genocide, and corruption charges, nothing remotely political about them except for that Thaksin was a politician while carrying out his crime spree.

If Prayuth decides to rush through an amnesty for Thaksin(remember the Yutthasak tape where Thaksin brags he "trusts" Prayuth) he will only have himself to blame when Thailand is burdened with a successive family dictatorship, no matter how sweet the personal rewards would appear to be for such a disastrous move.

Note to all apologists-----if this were to happen I would be in opposition to the military government.----ginjag.

And I am sure many would be concerned for you should such a situation occur.

Probably just another of the deals being done or contemplated.

If this did occur the army will have to be on the streets, because this was the main cause of PTP problems. and you and I saw what that reaction was from different bodies------they took to the streets.

[jaidam]

What good is a "political" amnesty for Thaksin? The crimes which he is accused of are not political in nature, they are common theft, murder, genocide, and corruption charges, nothing remotely political about them except for that Thaksin was a politician while carrying out his crime spree.

If Prayuth decides to rush through an amnesty for Thaksin(remember the Yutthasak tape where Thaksin brags he "trusts" Prayuth) he will only have himself to blame when Thailand is burdened with a successive family dictatorship, no matter how sweet the personal rewards would appear to be for such a disastrous move.

Note to all apologists-----if this were to happen I would be in opposition to the military government.----ginjag.

And I am sure many would be concerned for you should such a situation occur.

Probably just another of the deals being done or contemplated.

If this did occur the army will have to be on the streets, because this was the main cause of PTP problems. and you and I saw what that reaction was from different bodies------they took to the streets.

The only man alive in Thailand except gen P that could shed light on this unfolding situation would be Sonthi Boonyaratglin. Ex chief of army and fiercely opposed to a Shinawat dictatorship, he led a coup to free Thailand from the Shin shackles, only do do a complete U turn and basically end up in Thaksin's party. What did Thaksin offer or threaten to make you do such an illogical thing? Did you decide that a Shin dictatorship was in the best interests of Thailand, or was some pressure brought on you? A generous reward for being a good boy? Pray tell, help us understand what gen P is facing.

[chainarong]

Firstly the political reason and the excuse for a Coup started with the Amnesty Bill which was sent to the doctor big time , Thailand and General Prayuth wouldn't even dream of such a move, Paiboon needs to pull his head in , there was too much of this silly talking nonsense with the PTP , Thailand from my perspective hasn't learnt much in the last six months at all.

[DrLom]

"Why would we want organise a poll. The NCPO has no need to touch cases of politicians who violated the laws," Paiboon said.

"I can do nothing with their lawsuits. They need to settle their own cases. These are individual rights."

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OOOPS!..... corruption appears to be within, and not transparency, as Abhisit earlier requested it should be.

One never thought it would be untouchable, considering a military power has taken control of a corrupt situation - Ariston, and on, and on, and on.

[DrLom]

Firstly the political reason and the excuse for a Coup started with the Amnesty Bill which was sent to the doctor big time , Thailand and General Prayuth wouldn't even dream of such a move, Paiboon needs to pull his head in , there was too much of this silly talking nonsense with the PTP , Thailand from my perspective hasn't learnt much in the last six months at all.

Thailand, or corrupt leaders???

[FangFerang]

Denied they would "conduct an opinion survey". Of course not -- we can't have public opinion hindering the solidification of Bangkok power over the rural areas, my god, they might agree to it!

[Krataiboy]

Interesting, particularly in view of Taksin's "instruction", reported in the Bangkok Post today, to red shirt leaders to keep their heads down and let the generals carry on running the show as they pleased.

By the way, how do you spell "collusion"?

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Firstly the political reason and the excuse for a Coup started with the Amnesty Bill which was sent to the doctor big time , Thailand and General Prayuth wouldn't even dream of such a move, Paiboon needs to pull his head in , there was too much of this silly talking nonsense with the PTP , Thailand from my perspective hasn't learnt much in the last six months at all.

Thailand, or corrupt leaders???

You're assuming the two re mutually exclusive

[reiltin]

As was stated by NCPO last week gunners & bombers fed and found by an individual abroad....Surely more charges brought to book against the individual abroad, including murder! not less or NONE at all.

[Dogmatix]

What good is a "political" amnesty for Thaksin? The crimes which he is accused of are not political in nature, they are common theft, murder, genocide, and corruption charges, nothing remotely political about them except for that Thaksin was a politician while carrying out his crime spree.

If Prayuth decides to rush through an amnesty for Thaksin(remember the Yutthasak tape where Thaksin brags he "trusts" Prayuth) he will only have himself to blame when Thailand is burdened with a successive family dictatorship, no matter how sweet the personal rewards would appear to be for such a disastrous move.

Note to all apologists-----if this were to happen I would be in opposition to the military government.----ginjag.

And so would most of the NCPO's support base. Perhaps they can succeed in unifying the reds and the yellows against them.

[Dogmatix]

Interesting, particularly in view of Taksin's "instruction", reported in the Bangkok Post today, to red shirt leaders to keep their heads down and let the generals carry on running the show as they pleased.

By the way, how do you spell "collusion"?

It's very obvious that Thaksin has been in dialogue with the NCPO or people close to it since the coup. Compare his meek attitude this time to his shouting and screaming from the rooftops after the 2006 coup. There is obviously a stick involved in the form of threats to freeze his family's assets but who knows if he has also been offered a carrot, or is in process of negotiating one. The NCPO must be examining many scenarios for either neutralising the red shirts or even mobilising their support for whatever political movement they plan to support afterwards. Clearly they an't trust Abhisit to get elected, however mush the rules might get changed in his favour.

[tx22cb]

First and foremost - Amnesty for everybody involved in staging the coup.

As for politicians - depends on the highest bidders, and who are likely to win the general elections in 2016.

[surangw]

if its officially denied, it must be in the first stages of the plan to instigate it.

[Siripon]

I believe that when the elections take place next year the military will form a party, including Sudarat and Newin. They will try to attract politicians from both Pheua Thai and the Democrats, but I think they will have more success with Pheua Thai.

The constitution will undoubtedly weaken political parties, perhaps include provisions such as it's unnecessary to belong to a political party for any length of time, thus encouraging MP buying, ie back to the past.

This will lead to opposition from the established parties,the Democrats and Pheua Thai, but in the end both will jockey for power with the new party set up by the military.

Good luck to General Prayud with reforms, he has Thailand's interests at heart and he is a good man, but I do hope he learns to soften his language and gestures, otherwise he will face opposition all round.

[Publicus]

Coalition or collusion is the only pragmatic approach and mutually beneficial outcome.

If the military and their interests can accept a quid pro quo to cohabitate within the same borders as Thaksin, and if Thaksin and his people can accept that, then that would preclude a lot of problems concerning personal wealth, family estates, corporate investments and interests, to include geostrategic and geoglobal ones that confront Thailand. Major domestic socioeconomic issues can be addressed.

And long live the king.

Happily ever after as Thais unify for a change, and however tenuous it may be.

The Land of Smiles again.

At least in the short term of the next 3 to 5 years, maybe a few more up to 7 or so years, perhaps 12.

But then personalities and personal issues, grudges, hostilities would have to be set aside. Actually, it seems they might have been set aside already. Much to the delight of global bankers and big cap investors.

[greenchair]

Did nobody read the article. he said " I never said any such thing ,and I am angry they printed this story " he said "from now on I will not give them interviews, because they say not true things "

[rametindallas]

And I am sure many would be concerned for you should such a situation occur.

Probably just another of the deals being done or contemplated.

If this did occur the army will have to be on the streets, because this was the main cause of PTP problems. and you and I saw what that reaction was from different bodies------they took to the streets.

The only man alive in Thailand except gen P that could shed light on this unfolding situation would be Sonthi Boonyaratglin. Ex chief of army and fiercely opposed to a Shinawat dictatorship, he led a coup to free Thailand from the Shin shackles, only do do a complete U turn and basically end up in Thaksin's party. What did Thaksin offer or threaten to make you do such an illogical thing? Did you decide that a Shin dictatorship was in the best interests of Thailand, or was some pressure brought on you? A generous reward for being a good boy? Pray tell, help us understand what gen P is facing.

Thank you for saving me having to type the same thing. +1