JacChang Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 My favorite topic. Two members have provided you with excellent posts, I will not repeat but would like to add. There is no such thing as risk, the way we understand it. That is rule number 1. Most people understand risk, as something scary, and riskier as something even more scary. I would like to clarify that. Time horizon with regards to fluctuations is risk. 1) Time deposits carry no risk, as their principal stays the same, and the income from interests is determined. 2) Bonds carry a higher risk, because they can be traded openly in the secondary market. If you bought a bond that pays you 3.5%, and then next year, the interest rate goes up to 4.5%, the price of your bond will drop, as investors rush to buy the higher interest product and sell your "3.5% product". Most investors would agree interest rates would probably fluctuate between 0-5% in Thailand in general. So maximum loss of principal is fixed in that bracket. I would like to point out, risk exists when you buy this #2 category product and seek to sell it within a few years. However risk may not be evident if you hold it for 5-10 years. You are almost guaranteed your principal back with bonuses of possible capital appreciation and higher interest rates. See the magic of risk now? It's affected by time duration. 3) Stocks will crash every 5 years or every 10 years usually. Am I scared? Are other real investors scared? The simple answer is no. The earlier we accept that fact, the earlier we get down to business and start earning money. I am sure most people know what a graph looks like, it goes up and down. It's just a matter of fact. Take Kbank for example, one of the leading listed banks on the SET, even though their performance has been solid and still on the rise, the price of Kbank will go up and down, that's what usually happens, with regards to investor behavior. I have another line which I call "The Earnings Line". This Earnings Line, is the true line of it's value. And the actual price line is the snake that crosses this Earnings Line. Whenever it drops below it, it's on sale, and the opposite is true. For simple figures, I will use a 3 point system. 2015 Kbank Price 200 2020 Kbank Price 120 2025 Kbank Price 200 Why I have pointed out, that the time duration is your best friend, which helps you determine risk. In other words, time destroys and minimizes risk. If you are ready to invest that money in less than 5 years, your risk is very high. You would end up with less than 60% of what you originally put in, because you just needed that money immediately at the year 2018. But if you hold it to 2025, I am very confident, even though you bought at the tip highest point in 2015, you would be able to return to that price 10 years later. Time gives you opportunity, gives you options. The 3 point system might scare you especially 2020, but ask any investors, we are really looking forward to a crash. It's our "mass on sale" time, where we get a lot of quality stocks at unimaginable cheap pricing. Don't be itching to sell stocks during 2020. There is only two paths in investing. The right way and the wrong way. Never both. Natural animal instincts and fear during 2020, will cause us to want to sell. But ask yourself is it the right path? Should I sell when it's cheap on bargain? Wait a minute, if I am selling, does that mean someone is buying my stock? Then isn't that guy smarter than me, since he is buying cheap? Bingo. Time safeness bracket 1) Time deposits/money market funds Anytime is safe 2) Bond Funds 5-10 years safe 3) Stocks 10+ years safe Safe meaning, your principal is highly probable to return to your original amount given the time frame. Anything less, do not touch. If you need your money in 4 years, don't touch stocks. (Sure you could make money, but I am an investor, not a gambler. Gamblers boast how much % they make in a few months or years, then 10 years later you see these losers out of money and complaining about how risky stock markets are. I chose to be an investor, and it works, that's why I am sharing with you.) Some mutual funds I would like to share, which I own myself. 1) AllianceBernstein-American Income Portfolio 4.7% Dividend Paid monthly (Over 64% investment grade, Inflation 2.09%) 2) AllianceBernstein-European Income Portfolio Clas 4.3% Dividend Paid monthly (50% investment grade, Inflation 0.9%) This fund is still dropping in NAV, very good enter point, but don't buy yet, it's still a falling knife, wait until it flats out. 3) BGF Euro Bond Fund (91% investment grade) This is my safe haven, not recommended in high percentage. Interest 0.96% Mutual fund inflation 0.49% = Gains of 0.47% Because of low inflation, my hopes is for currency appreciation if you take the mutual fund inflation of 0.49% to Thailand's inflation 2.16% = Expected gain 0.47+1.67= 2% (Note: This 2% is not comparable to your thai interest rate. If you want a comparable number, you take your thai interest rate minus your inflation rate, which I believe is close to 0%. So 2% is attractive.) I have considered other bond funds, however, I have refrained. Emerging bonds fund, inflation stands at 7-10%, where is the gain? Sure, capital appreciation due to investor behavior mass buy, but how long will it last? Gamble vs Investing? Global Bonds, most I am aware of are junk bonds. Over 90% in BBB or B related type bonds. Less than 10% investment grade bonds. Gains? Improvement of 1-2%, but at a higher risk. At this certain year of investment cycle, my personal idea is safety before gains. I rather earn less, but stay safe this particular year. 4) BGF Global Equity Income Fund (All stocks with dividends, McDonalds, Imperial Tobacco Group, Coca Cola, Nestle, Microsoft, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Chevron, etc.) In my honest opinion, very solid stocks, which I could sleep quietly even if stocks do crash, which I do believe a crash will occur soon this year or next. If I remember correctly, they pay 3% dividend, and I would suggest not a lump sum investment, but a regular fixed monthly investment. Why? Stocks fluctuate. If you are not experienced enough to choose when to enter, you may be always entering at the wrong time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacChang Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The big banks in Lao are now paying 7 -7.5% per year for 3 year fixed deposit, and the pay the interest yearly in advance. Not saying how secure this is, but there is some government guarantee up to a certain level. I just checked on the website Laos Interest rate 5% Inflation 3.7% Thailand Inflation 2.16% Could you please post the quote for the 7%? If not, I'll use my 5% for now. Laos 5%-3.7% = Gain 1.3% Inflation Difference 3.7% - 2.16%= 1.54% 1.3%-1.54%= True Gain/Loss = -0.25% Loss Thailand > Laos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fletchsmile Posted August 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) Some Aberdeen funds are ok but they are no city darlings - I can't think of an Aberdeen fund that is leading its sector. There are far far better alternative funds with identical risk producing far healthier returns than the ones quoted above AND with lower fees! A few questions/ points: Are you referring to Aberdeen globally or Aberdeen Thailand? Let's make sure we're comparing apples to apples The range of funds generally is much more limited in Thailand but Aberdeen in particular usually do well compared to their peers in Thailand. The main exception being their US fund sold here which seems to be consistently poor. Highlights not all fund houses do well for every fund. Aberdeen Growth for example, which invests in Thai equities, I've held for over 15 years. My annualised return is over 20% p.a after charges (not saying that will continue BTW). It is consistently in the top bracket over longer periods. No fund is going to be top every year and over every time period. As you can see over for 10 years, it ranks 3rd out of about 80. Aberdeen Thailand's small cap fund is top over 5 years. I've consistently struggled whenever I look to find a fund outside Thailand which is superior over my holding period for Thai equities. There are others in Thailand tho over shorter time frames. It makes sense the best performing fund would be located in Thailand. http://tools.morningstarthailand.com/th/fundquickrank/default.aspx?Site=th&LanguageId=en-TH On the subject of fees that also depends on where you buy. eg UK you can get discounted down to 0% for initial charge, Thailand 1% is common. Singapore 5% is common unless you find discounts. I find 1% in Thailand using money here reasonable compared to shipping my money overseas. Of course I also buy funds in other locations with no charge but 1% is OK here given convenience. For someone buying thru Thailand they offer a reasonable rate with usually good performance (except the US fund). Obviously if you compare all funds in the world in all countries there will be different answers, but that strays away from convenience and simplicity of buying in Thailand. I'm always open to wider scope so would be particularly interested in, if you have any recommended funds please post them: - Particularly for Thai equity funds - Particularly for funds bought in Thailand Cheers Fletch Edited August 30, 2014 by fletchsmile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted August 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2014 I will not advise, as anything above a fixed bank account will include some risk. But I can tell what I have done for my daughter as information and inspiration: 1) My GF talked about a child savings in Government Bank, but knowing from friends in my homeland a child saving bank account often loose some against inflation. However you will always need cash, so I said »yes, but only a little, like 500 baht a month«; something all should be able to afford without feeling it – anyway the amount is not that important, the important is that you save something up… Okay 500 baht a month becomes 6,000 a year, and over the coming 16 to 20 years, the last in my case, it does become both some savings and inflation partly covered by interest; 150k and up is always nice to have on hand. 2) Land, we bought a plot of land in my daughters name – she’s Thai and Thai children can own land – a plot of farmland in grandma’s village. My daughter leases the land out for farming and receives a fee of average 500 baht par rai per year. Grandma kindly enough takes care of all that, so my daughter ends up with cash money instead of bags of rice, or a share of whatever has be grown… Admit we got a bargain with the land plot as someone in village needed cash, so compared to other plots close to, it has gained 200 percent in 9 years; normally it will be a fair average to count a double up of 100 percent gain over a 8-10 year period. That means in 16-20 years you can gain 300 percent or 4 times the initial investment. Land takes (sometimes long) time to sell and is not instant cash, and of course there can be areas or times where you don’t gain much or gain a lot more, so some risk; but looked at over a 16-20 year period I consider it as a fairly inflation safe investment. 3) The outcome from the farmland plot and whatever extra money there may be, my daughter invests in a so-called Fund Book in one of the major banks. She has wisely chosen a LTF (Long Term Fund) with a mix of equity and some bonds. The LTF is tax-exempt when kept for five years or longer. The paid dividends she reinvest, but she could have chosen a LTF-series with no dividend payouts, however she may like to receive some cash profit for fun or gadgets when she becomes teen. Yes, there is a risk involved in a stock market investment, but so far the total gain has been more than 25 percent over something like a 7 year period, which she think is “Okay”, as she has been saving her land profit yearly so the first years saving has gained a lot more… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceicol Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Not sure if they have them in Thailand but in the UK we have crowdfunding websites. For those that don't know what they are, they are basically where normal people join together and lend a person/business finance at an agreed rate. Often it's good for people as the loan is cheaper than the banks will lend them, and quicker depending on how attractive it is. I've been lending some money this way to businesses and have been getting around 8% return for my money. It's a win win really, with the exception of the banks. The business gets a cheaper rate and I get a better return on my savings. At the moment as I'm not in any urgent need for the money I just reinvest the returns each month. There is the risk of that business going bust but you can choose which businesses you invest in based on their credit rating, obviously the better it is, the less return you will likely get. The idea is to split your lending around a number of different businesses so if one goes belly up it doesn't hurt too much. It does require a bit of work on your behalf, but I find it weirdly interesting making decisions on who to lend money too. Good luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I would find a way to put it in fiscal Gold. According to some very top investment guys there is going to be a melt down of the $USA within the next 1-2 years and huge stock market crashes far worst than the USA crash in the 1920's, buy good gold coins like the Kruger, Gold Eagles or Canada one's. If this does happen a lot of banks are going to crash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBrainer Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The big banks in Lao are now paying 7 -7.5% per year for 3 year fixed deposit, and the pay the interest yearly in advance. Not saying how secure this is, but there is some government guarantee up to a certain level. I just checked on the website Laos Interest rate 5% Inflation 3.7% Thailand Inflation 2.16% Could you please post the quote for the 7%? If not, I'll use my 5% for now. Laos 5%-3.7% = Gain 1.3% Inflation Difference 3.7% - 2.16%= 1.54% 1.3%-1.54%= True Gain/Loss = -0.25% Loss Thailand > Laos Sorry but I can not post a direct link. I only posted it as something to check into. A friend of mine made a term deposit last year at one of the larger Lao banks, (it had a french name) and that was the terms that he received. He received his first years interest deposited to a second account within a week of making the term deposit. He has recently received his second years interest automatically deposited to the same account without incident. His negotiated interest rate is 7% PA. He was also offered 7.5% this year, if he wished to make a further deposit. The deposit is based in U.S. Dollars. He is very reliable & has no reason to deceive me. When he first asked me what I thought about it, i had some concerns, but he was convinced by another friend who has been using this bank for more than ten years, and it seems to be legitimate. That is all I can tell you. Good luck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 15 years is just too long to lock up your money for a minimum term. Yes it requires little effort and little return. I can show you a way to make $600 usd paid monthly into your account, but the investment you would need to come up with is 380,000 baht. Downfall is your money will be locked in for 18months contract. You can take your money out then, or you can choose to reinvest the 380,000. If you want more info. My email is <removed> What you're offering here is an annual return of well over 50%. Scammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaray74 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I actually trust this big Asian firm more than the bank in Laos. Everything is a risk. You want to keep it minimal. 6% return a month is more than 60% annually. They invest it for you.. I'm joining up because I seen it with my own eyes. The return and bank statement. A lady invested $50000 she is receiving $4000 every month. Above 30k is 8% return monthly. No black jack gambling. All legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) I actually trust this big Asian firm more than the bank in Laos. Everything is a risk. You want to keep it minimal. 6% return a month is more than 60% annually. They invest it for you.. I'm joining up because I seen it with my own eyes. The return and bank statement. A lady invested $50000 she is receiving $4000 every month. Above 30k is 8% return monthly. No black jack gambling. All legal Well give us the name then. 8% monthly return is simply not even remotely possible. Edited August 30, 2014 by 12DrinkMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denby45 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The big banks in Lao are now paying 7 -7.5% per year for 3 year fixed deposit, and the pay the interest yearly in advance. Not saying how secure this is, but there is some government guarantee up to a certain level. I just checked on the website Laos Interest rate 5% Inflation 3.7% Thailand Inflation 2.16% Could you please post the quote for the 7%? If not, I'll use my 5% for now. Laos 5%-3.7% = Gain 1.3% Inflation Difference 3.7% - 2.16%= 1.54% 1.3%-1.54%= True Gain/Loss = -0.25% Loss Thailand > Laos You forgot to deduct the amount you will be charged for changing the money (twice) and also forgot to mention the huge currency risk. Also do we even trust these banks to not go bust, result= -100%? Den Edited August 30, 2014 by denby45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denby45 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) My take on all of this is clear. I am sitting on my hands right now and waiting for the huge crash and/or rampant inflation to get a better picture. I believe locking money into very long term even if possible would be a big mistake. Mutual funds as far as I am concerned are sharks in disguise. They profess to manage your account and charge excessive fees while following like sheep the rest of the herd. 90% of the time they don't even match or better the stock market oftentimes doing much worse. In saying that the usual relative safe low cost index fund haven (long term) at the moment should not be considered. The downside risk today is just too great. We should all be patient for now. I am not sure how long the Central Banksters can play their game so there is even risk to sitting on the sidelines but for sure their house of cards has to come down one day. After the smoke has cleared I will re-assess my position. However for now I am doing short term deposits 3-6 months then rolling it over each time. I am completely out of the stock markets and sold my gold. (not quite at the right time but I did OK.) Please do not be enticed by the post above professing he can return >60%. You will lose all of your money. I think the guys name is Mr. Ponzi. Den Edited August 30, 2014 by denby45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceicol Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I actually trust this big Asian firm more than the bank in Laos. Everything is a risk. You want to keep it minimal. 6% return a month is more than 60% annually. They invest it for you.. I'm joining up because I seen it with my own eyes. The return and bank statement. A lady invested $50000 she is receiving $4000 every month. Above 30k is 8% return monthly. No black jack gambling. All legal Do me a favour mate and search out and read some stuff on former billionaire Bernie Madoff before you invest any of your own money in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaray74 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Hope it's not.. hopefully a few of you guys can do some research. .. maxim trader is the name of the group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Buy 300k of Gold and stick it in a safety deposit box at the bank. . Depending on who you read or listen to, some say gold may go up to 10K USD an oz. while others think it could easily fall back to 600/oz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denby45 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Hope it's not.. hopefully a few of you guys can do some research. .. maxim trader is the name of the group We don't have to do research to see this is a Ponzi Scheme. I can only reiterate what others on here have advised you. For your own good, please do not get involved in this Scheme. Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 15 years is just too long to lock up your money for a minimum term. Yes it requires little effort and little return. I can show you a way to make $600 usd paid monthly into your account, but the investment you would need to come up with is 380,000 baht. Downfall is your money will be locked in for 18months contract. You can take your money out then, or you can choose to reinvest the 380,000. If you want more info. My email is <removed> . If what you're posting is legitimate why don't you just post the details on the open forum? That way it could be open to discussion in relation to this thread. Surely you aren't hiding anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denby45 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Hope it's not.. hopefully a few of you guys can do some research. .. maxim trader is the name of the group We don't have to do research to see this is a Ponzi Scheme. I can only reiterate what others on here have advised you. For your own good, please do not get involved in this Scheme. Den OK you don’t seem convinced so I will do you a favor. It appears they are also busy in Malaysia. Check out the Financial Consumer Alert list on the BNM website http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_financialconsumeralert〈=en Hope this helps you to make up your mind. Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 12DrinkMore Posted August 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2014 15 years is just too long to lock up your money for a minimum term. Yes it requires little effort and little return. I can show you a way to make $600 usd paid monthly into your account, but the investment you would need to come up with is 380,000 baht. Downfall is your money will be locked in for 18months contract. You can take your money out then, or you can choose to reinvest the 380,000. If you want more info. My email is <removed> If what you're posting is legitimate why don't you just post the details on the open forum? That way it could be open to discussion in relation to this thread. Surely you aren't hiding anything. Well, he sort of did. Here is the "reported returns" on their managed fund until May. June and July do not seem to be available. http://partner.maximtrader.com/download/downloadFundManagementReport/p/may_2014 Totally awesome! I wonder why they want other people join in the fun and give away all those "profits"? Anyway here is the brilliant team: http://maximtraders.blogspot.com/ Note they just around to saying that if you deposit USD 5,500 they will deduct USD 500 up front. Wonder why, in the light of all the profits they shower on you every month? And Maxim Traders is a subsidiary of the Royale Globe Holding Inc. Maybe check out what these guys are up to. http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/financials/financials.asp?ticker=ROGP OH! Not exactly a whole lot. That is a bit strange. Put your trust in the management team. Mr Eric Teh Ms Windy Wong Ms Debbie Tan Ms Pinky Kuok They will take care of you! And as they claim to have an Asian Honesty Award 2013, maybe we had better check out the winners? http://www.honestyaward.asia/kerisaward/winners.htm Oh NO! Surely that cannot be? They do not appear on the list. Must be a mistake. Somewhere. Come on guys, liquidate everything and let's pile in. We are surely onto a winner here. (Sorry, too much time on my hands today) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denby45 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 15 years is just too long to lock up your money for a minimum term. Yes it requires little effort and little return. I can show you a way to make $600 usd paid monthly into your account, but the investment you would need to come up with is 380,000 baht. Downfall is your money will be locked in for 18months contract. You can take your money out then, or you can choose to reinvest the 380,000. If you want more info. My email is <removed> If what you're posting is legitimate why don't you just post the details on the open forum? That way it could be open to discussion in relation to this thread. Surely you aren't hiding anything. Well, he sort of did. Here is the "reported returns" on their managed fund until May. June and July do not seem to be available. http://partner.maximtrader.com/download/downloadFundManagementReport/p/may_2014 Totally awesome! I wonder why they want other people join in the fun and give away all those "profits"? Anyway here is the brilliant team: http://maximtraders.blogspot.com/ Note they just around to saying that if you deposit USD 5,500 they will deduct USD 500 up front. Wonder why, in the light of all the profits they shower on you every month? And Maxim Traders is a subsidiary of the Royale Globe Holding Inc. Maybe check out what these guys are up to. http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/financials/financials.asp?ticker=ROGP OH! Not exactly a whole lot. That is a bit strange. Put your trust in the management team. Mr Eric Teh Ms Windy Wong Ms Debbie Tan Ms Pinky Kuok They will take care of you! And as they claim to have an Asian Honesty Award 2013, maybe we had better check out the winners? http://www.honestyaward.asia/kerisaward/winners.htm Oh NO! Surely that cannot be? They do not appear on the list. Must be a mistake. Somewhere. Come on guys, liquidate everything and let's pile in. We are surely onto a winner here. (Sorry, too much time on my hands today) Me thinks you are being a little bit sarcastic. No? Anyway I have lots of money I want to lose so count me in. Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Me thinks you are being a little bit sarcastic. No? Anyway I have lots of money I want to lose so count me in. Den OK, you are IN!!!! Well done, this could be the best financial investment you have ever made. I'll PM you with my bank account details, indeed anybody else who wants to join in can PM me. I offer a 100% honesty guarantee. You will see absolutely nothing back. But rest assured, your place in heaven will have my total guarantee. You can come and haunt me forever if it doesn't quite work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaray74 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Denby45 that's weird I actually have seen the honesty award it was on there, how the hell did you remove it...photo shop...lol Also if it's such a hoax why are they all making 5-8 % per month. I have seen them log in. I have seen their statements. .. While we are sarcastically laughing at them, they are collecting... you will not find one customer here or anywhere who registered invested, and lost or not received the targeted amount. ...hmm I wonder why. Come smart butt where are all these thousands of investors who have lost all their money. I'm sure you can find a blog out their, or just make one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaray74 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Nope. Maxim is flagged in malaysia due to malaysia gov wan all forex company to register but many don't wan to. Cos once u have the license,it is universal. Malaysia wan to tax the company. That why maxim is on that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaray74 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 http://www.myfxbook.com/members/MaximCapltd01 http://www.myfxbook.com/members/maximasiapacific http://www.myfxbook.com/members/maximsingapore01 http://www.myfxbook.com/members/maximtaiwan01 http://www.myfxbook.com/members/maximaustralia01 http://www.myfxbook.com/members/maximnewzealand http://www.myfxbook.com/members/maximpolish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaray74 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Trading profit history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccw Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I would find a way to put it in fiscal Gold. According to some very top investment guys there is going to be a melt down of the $USA within the next 1-2 years and huge stock market crashes far worst than the USA crash in the 1920's, buy good gold coins like the Kruger, Gold Eagles or Canada one's. If this does happen a lot of banks are going to crash. The South African ones are a bit bellow par don't you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) When My Daughter was born 19 years ago, I enrolled at a college fund program available in her home state of Florida USA, It locked the price of her tuition at the day we entered the program and it had a small monthly fee of $120 usd until she graduated from High school and was ready for College.With it she can attend any state University in Florida and if she decides not to go to Uni, the funds are returned to her. Most states in the US have similar programs, I wonder if a similar program is available where you are located. in Investing the 300,000 bht keep the flowing principle in mind, it is called the rule of 72 and it pertains to the length of time or the percentage necessary to double your money 72 divided by years = rate necessary to double your funds so 72/16=4.5% or if you need a bigger return let's say you wanted to double your money in 2.4 years you will need a return of 72 /30=2.4 30 being the necessary percentage rate of return Edited August 30, 2014 by sirineou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDBUGGY Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Buy a Good Thai Bank Stock. Stock generally always outdo inflation. You will seldom lose on one of those and over the years they will grow. They also pay dividends, which can be reinvested. No Tax Obligation until they are sold, but no sure about the rules on dividends here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Denby45 that's weird I actually have seen the honesty award it was on there, how the hell did you remove it...photo shop...lol Also if it's such a hoax why are they all making 5-8 % per month. I have seen them log in. I have seen their statements. .. While we are sarcastically laughing at them, they are collecting... you will not find one customer here or anywhere who registered invested, and lost or not received the targeted amount. ...hmm I wonder why. Come smart butt where are all these thousands of investors who have lost all their money. I'm sure you can find a blog out their, or just make one up. We have progressed from you knowing one lady to seeing a bunch of people log in and seeing their statements. How do you know such investors? Why can you personally see their statements? And there may not be thousands of investors who have lost their money. Because there may not have been thousands of investors. Or even just a few investors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Simple answer is regarding an investment of 300000 baht in Thailand on a continual 15 year basis, is that there are very few decent options. Firstly, buying land outside of a desirable area would hardly be an investment, probably will be impossible to sell later on without a loss unless by chance the area is developed and then there are the legal implications to consider regarding foreigners purchasing land on behalf of Thais, even if it`s for a family member. Fixed bank accounts are mostly always promotions that only last for a small number of years and their interest rates are hardly worth mentioning unless one is thinking of placing a few million bahts into the accounts. As for considering investing the money in gold, for the amount of 300k it would hardly be worth the effort and of course gold prices can go down, so you could lose out here big time. There are Thai Government bonds that will probably yield better interest rates than the regular banks accounts, but these are not risk free and I would only recommend the purchase of Government bonds to those who have money marketing experience and know the score. The best bet would be to open a savings insurance policy at a well known established Thai bank, one that will mature in the next 15 years or for whatever period the policy holder requires. Also it is possible to add and pay into the policy each month that should pay good dividends once the policy matures at the end of it`s term, much higher returns than with a bank account. Check with the bank that the money is protected if in the event the insurance company goes bust and terms and clauses that are subject to the policy. This would be my first main line of inquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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