Lite Beer Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 NATIONAL REFORMGraft fight a 'national priority'The Sunday Nation Participants of the event take part in a group photoBANGKOK: -- Prayuth reaffirms his commitment to tackling issue that has 'divided' ThaisPrime Minister General Prayuth Chan-ocha has promised that his government regards the fight against corruption as a national agenda assignment and a key element of national reform.Speaking yesterday, he said that corruption would be among the first reform issues to be tackled, adding that the problem had been accumulating for a long time in Thailand and was causing severe damage to the country's economy and reputation.Prayuth blamed the deep-rooted problem for the social division and political conflict which led to fatal street protests and other violent acts over the past decade."The worsening corruption problem has led to political unrest, a division between people in the country, social inequality, and a bad image of Thailand in the eyes of foreigners," he said."The government and the National Council for Peace and Order treats as a top priority the fight against corruption. This problem must be tackled urgently and there must be concrete results. If we allow the problem to continue, there will be more damage to the country in many ways."He also warned that younger people would copy the wrong values about corruption if they discovered that many corrupt officials and politicians could get away with it.Prayuth, who also heads the NCPO, spoke while presiding over the launch of Anti-Corruption Day, which was held for the fourth consecutive year by the Anti-Corruption Organisation of Thailand (ACT).This year's event, with the theme "Hand in Hand - Reform the Fight for Sustainable Victory", was held at the Centara Grand Hotel.ACT chairman Pramon Sutivong expressed his optimism over the fight against corruption, pointing to increased support from the public."Over the past four years, the social attitude towards corruption has shifted from the realisation of considerable damage caused by corruption to an intolerable feeling [about it]," Pramon said."Thais have joined hands to take action for tangible results. This year marks a remarkable year for Thailand as we have seen the public and private sectors reconcile. The two sectors have prominent roles in suppressing corruption effectively."Noted figures yesterday presented their anti-corruption vision and measures at the ACT's event.National Security Council secretary-general Thawil Pliensri said human greed was beyond anyone's imagination. He said recent surveys showed that "under the table" money accounted for 20-60 per cent of the cost of projects due to conspiracies by politicians, civil servants and businessmen. It was time Thais united to stop corruption, he said."If you want to be corrupt, you should think of low-ranking officials and poor people in the upcountry and you may want to stop corruption," he said.Commerce Ministry permanent secretary Chutima Bunyaprapatsorn said to prevent corruption in the long run it was vital that people were instilled with good values so they did their job with integrity."The anti-corruption job is not optional. Everyone has the duty to clean up the country so that it is free of corruption,'' she said.Thai Chamber of Commerce president Issara Wongkusolkit said the agency was determined to build a corruption-free society and instil Thais with honesty and integrity.Federation of Thai Industries president Supan Mongkolsuthee said corruption would not be wiped out if it were not attacked at the root causes and without harsh punishments being imposed.He said one of the anti-corruption measures was to disclose the names of companies with transparency issues.Engineering Institute of Thailand president Suchatvee Suwansawat said the agency would like to take part in the fight against corruption with the goal of a sustainable victory."If we do not do this part, what does the future hold for our children?" he said. "Corruption is the root cause of every problem. It destroys the dreams of the next generations and stops opportunities being given to competent people who want to bring about innovation for the country.'' Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Graft-fight-a-national-priority-30242700.html -- The Nation 2014-09-07 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted September 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2014 Corrupt officials and politicians shouldn't be getting away with it but so many do one way or another. Send a proper message to youth that your position, family name, connections etc do not protect you from wrongdoing but it will require a sea change in attitudes and Thainess which isn't going to happen anytime soon, if at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Probably well illustrated in Thai Society and on this board by the initial Amnesty Bil corruption supporters vs the initial Amnesty Bill corruption opponents. Some however can only relate colours. Either way there are one third of Thai's no doubt well represented in the marches against the Amnesty Bill who are not corrupt and they now have the leadership in front of them who are prepared to lead against corruption. First time this century there is positive hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBerg Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Ok the general sounds good. But will he try to pull in the convicted fugitive and the red bull cop killer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted September 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2014 It wouldn't be a new government in LoS without making all the right noises about corruption but the proof of the pudding etc. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 When he fears that younger people copying the wrong values when they discover that many corrupt officials and politicians get away with it how comes that no action will be taken against Yinluck(till now) and all the Land Department officials on Phlukhet who issued wrong title deeds? Do these people ever think before making such remarks? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurnell Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Thailand sure can talk the talk, and never walk the walk. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Lets face it , this will be an issue in a hundred years time , they don't get it , you can solve some of this corruption but not the grassroots level , even Mum and Dad, Grandad, Sister cousin are in corruption, the population is corrupt, question is how did you change this mind set, all that Thailand has going for it in this area is some of it's Asean cousins are in the same boat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Thailand has never been against corruption. They have only been divided over who gets a share. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Lets face it , this will be an issue in a hundred years time , they don't get it , you can solve some of this corruption but not the grassroots level , even Mum and Dad, Grandad, Sister cousin are in corruption, the population is corrupt, question is how did you change this mind set, all that Thailand has going for it in this area is some of it's Asean cousins are in the same boat. More anti-Thai BS. The grassroots people in this country are not corrupt they have put up with corruption because they have had no choice. If they wanted something done on an official level they had to grease the wheels, if a cop stopped them they had to reach into their pocket. The people on the street don't cheat each other nor do they cheat others, sure there are those in tourist destinations or big cities who do for the crooks and cheats migrate to where they think they can find easy targets. Edited September 7, 2014 by Robby nz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nontabury Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Lets face it , this will be an issue in a hundred years time , they don't get it , you can solve some of this corruption but not the grassroots level , even Mum and Dad, Grandad, Sister cousin are in corruption, the population is corrupt, question is how did you change this mind set, all that Thailand has going for it in this area is some of it's Asean cousins are in the same boat. More anti-Thai BS. The grassroots people in this country are not corrupt they have put up with corruption because they have had no choice. If they wanted something done on an official level they had to grease the wheels, if a cop stopped them they had to reach into their pocket. The people on the street don't cheat each other nor do they cheat others, sure there are those in tourist destinations or big cities who do for the crooks and cheats migrate to where they think they can find easy targets. I would like to agree with you, however I recall a few years ago, there was a survey carried out asking Thai's if they thought corruption was OK, approx 80% said YES. Like wise don't think you are correct when you state people on the street don't cheat each other.Some certainly do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timewilltell Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 The punishment has to fit the crime. If you engage in HUGE corruption yet simply get moved to a different job - an inactive one at that - then the crime can't be very serious in the eyes of those who are mouthing off about how important it is to tackle the problem. Ridiculous! Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Ok the general sounds good. But will he try to pull in the convicted fugitive and the red bull cop killer? How about the submarine base? The bomb detectors? The Swedish jet fighters? The current telecoms scams (post-Yingluck and massively dwarfing any wrongs she may or may not have committed in scale - and ongoing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brucec64 Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 " The PM also announced that as a show of good faith, all military members of the NLA, the cabinet and the NCPO would declare all assets and assets in family member's name. Further, the military budget would be transparent, military members would no longer be board members of state enterprises, and the military would divest itself of its multiple private enterprises. This would show the military's full commitment to ending corruption. " Wait. That didn't happen... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Ok the general sounds good. But will he try to pull in the convicted fugitive and the red bull cop killer? Did you ask that question to the last government especially when the foreign ministers cousin had the ministry open during the floods of 2011 to issue a passport to the convicted fugitive? I don't think that I heard your voice when the Red Bill policeman killer ran away under the lasy government either. Your question should be addressed to the previous government before this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Obviously the General has not passed this message onto his procurement department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBerg Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Ok the general sounds good. But will he try to pull in the convicted fugitive and the red bull cop killer? Did you ask that question to the last government especially when the foreign ministers cousin had the ministry open during the floods of 2011 to issue a passport to the convicted fugitive? I don't think that I heard your voice when the Red Bill policeman killer ran away under the lasy government either. Your question should be addressed to the previous government before this one. Nothing compares to the shinaclans government in robbing the country empty. The present government is doing well. But they MUST put the bad leaders in prison for a long time. If not, all they did will be useless and forgotten soon. Lil sis, Chalerm, Tarit and their cronies MUST be put in prison. Their assets should be taken. The bad guy in Dubai MUST serve his time and face many other court cases. If nothing is done against the top rats, Thailand is lost. The country will be plundered and pillaged more in future because the bad guys know they will never be put away for their crimes. Only in a few lawless countries a drunk driver can kill a policeman and remain unpunished. It's an outrage that the Prayuth government MUST deal with. They can't do all the same time, but an international arrest warrant for the red bull killer will not be as complicated as one for the missunderstood fugitive. Sondhi committed crime too and got a fair conviction IMO. Yet he is hopping around on bail in freedom. And that is what happened before to big shots. What about Calerm's son? Acquitted from a murder case where there were plenty of eye-witnesses seeing him committing the murder? If the Prayuth government wants to break corruption as they are doing with small fish now they MUST lock up the sharks. Do they fail to do so, then a later government consisting of rats like the shinas will be back to business as usual. Prayuth has a difficult task ahead. Fight corruption, reconciliation, do jusitice. Justice means simply locking up criminals. Petty thieves get small sentences. Big ones long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireMedic Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The anti-corruption job is not optional. Everyone has the duty to clean up the country so that it is free of corruption,'' Just don't file a complaint or tell anyone because you could be charged under the Computer Crimes Act/ Criminal Defamation..... Again, I'm tired of all the soap box speeches and mafia crackdowns....let me know when someone is sentenced to 20 years in Bang Kwan for corruption or abuse of power. Until then, he sure does make a good entertainer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useronthenet Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 How do you eradicate corruption when it has existed for 100's if not 1000's of years ? Furthermore, those that have evaded prosecution will continue with this practice until they are caught. Corruption is of course deep-rooted, and it will be difficult to alter the mindset of those who accept that this behavior is justifiable in Thai society. Asking an old dog to do new tricks is almost impossible. Therefore it will take a generation of two to dilute this cancer from within. A good start is with the schools, and at home, and hopefully this teaching of basic principles of working hard, and earning money honestly will start sinking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Corrupt officials and politicians shouldn't be getting away with it but so many do one way or another. Send a proper message to youth that your position, family name, connections etc do not protect you from wrongdoing but it will require a sea change in attitudes and Thainess which isn't going to happen anytime soon, if at all. Corruption in law enforcement and justice system has first to be addressed, that is, in the police force, the OAG and the courts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It was doomed the second they started cracking down on petty vices. The hallmark of non-functional governments. Corruption will increase on the grass roots level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piersbeckett Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 IMHO the Thai attitude towards corruption is of tolerance; what's needed to change that is, in my view, education. My feeling is that generally the Thais, perhaps the majority, that are not directly benefiting from corruption don't understand that corruption is a major cause of their inability to improve their lot. Tackling corruption, I believe, has to start from the top with zero tolerance in the state controlled sector accompanied by the existence of a truly independent judiciary dishing out harsh penalties for convicted offenders. The government is tasked with protecting the populous which surely should include protecting them via the rule of law from what is theft. Definition is also required; what constitutes 'corruption' and what might be 'unfair trading', right down to what is to be considered mutual 'back-scratching'. The earliest evidence Quote Investigations found for this type of remark appeared in a syndicated newspaper column by Leonard Lyons in 1962. The popular Oscar-winning actress Celeste Holm attributed the words to an anonymous theatre actor (LLCH): Westinghouse Broadcasting Co. invited a panel of performers including Celeste Holm and Shelly Berman - to discuss the trends in show business. Miss Holm spoke of the vogues in acting and said she heard one actor say: "Honesty. That's the thing in the theatre today. Honesty.... and just as soon as I can learn to fake that, I'll have it made" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Lets face it , this will be an issue in a hundred years time , they don't get it , you can solve some of this corruption but not the grassroots level , even Mum and Dad, Grandad, Sister cousin are in corruption, the population is corrupt, question is how did you change this mind set, all that Thailand has going for it in this area is some of it's Asean cousins are in the same boat. More anti-Thai BS. The grassroots people in this country are not corrupt they have put up with corruption because they have had no choice. If they wanted something done on an official level they had to grease the wheels, if a cop stopped them they had to reach into their pocket. The people on the street don't cheat each other nor do they cheat others, sure there are those in tourist destinations or big cities who do for the crooks and cheats migrate to where they think they can find easy targets. Your funny " the people on the street dont cheat each other"..... go to any village and see how it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drand11 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) It is comical to hear Prayuth make such accusations when he takes over a nation & installs himself & Cronies into the new Interim Govt! Now how hypocritical is that!! Edited September 7, 2014 by drand11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 This from a man who's just put all his mates in parliament? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Wake me up when he makes this speech - until then keep on supping at the kool-aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I suggest the good general first do an internal purge on corruption to show he meant what he said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 they can start with a corruption report hotline ? my so called brother in law (not really, just boyfriend of sister-in-law) ... bought 2 nice 30 million baht houses in hi-so village ... does (did) lobby work for YL , connecting entreprises that would like to get gov. contracts, do i need to say more ? was so kind to put one house on the girlfriends name and one on his mother's name ... just in case things would get sauer ... mother in law, loves him ... she loves money even more ... she does not care where it comes from ... not that he has to give money to her, she is more than rich enough being a mia noi of a rich businessman 5555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) I have a dream.... ...Where the budgets voted for public projects actually end up being used 100% (OK, 80, let's not get carried away) for said projects... Where the huge holes that were dug in the lovely and wide sidewalks near my place only months after they were finished and for some mysterious purpose which was never achieved, will finally be filled in after more than 2 years of being used as garbage dumps, collecting dead animals, annoying pedestrians and occasionally causing body injuries. Oh, by the way, on the subject of corruption, here's something I've been wanting to say for months (but keep forgetting) : Just before the coup, the '200 baht police rackets' on the roads around Pattaya and Jomtien had reached an unprecedented level of hassle, to the point where I used my motorbike only when absolutely necessary, and expected to be stopped at least once or twice if I went anywhere far. Since the coup, these 'money gathering roadblocks' have all but disappeared. I feel for the poor cops who must now be struggling to pay back the bank loans on their SUVs, big houses, and expensive schools for the kids ... and can only guess that they are now doing police work, how remarkable ! Edited September 7, 2014 by Yann55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonypace02 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 No leader will survive long while cleaning corruption out of government. Even Pope John XXIII could not survive the purification of the Vatican. A leader's power is only as lasting and as strong as the power of his supporters. And since many of the powerful hierarchy in any political entity achieved their influence through corruption, they need contimued corruption for their own survival as well as their leaders'. Corruption is as essential to politicians as breathing. If Prayeuth wants to persist in this mission, he'd better watch his back, and never have a meal without a food taster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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