Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge and David Miller may have argued in bar with gangster

[mataleo]

So he went behind the shop counter, took the smart phone off the shop assistant girl, took photo/s of the 2 guys following him and then posted it about on Facebook using the girls phone....

Where u got that from.

You will have to read a bit more stuff.

Found it.

This is worse

" Sean, a bar-tender and busker from Shotts, Lanarkshire, ended up sleeping rough before being escorted to the ferry"

After that they let him stay outside...

[jabis]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terrified-pal-murdered-brit-pair-4303495

Sorry, but why the xxx is the guy sitting with a guitar on the picture? That is just totally out of place...

Because the interview was taken on the ferry pier just before he left Tao - you can see that from the video as well.

[joedot]

if that were me i wouldn't have been sleeping anywhere. Impossible to sleep after that kind of encounter.

[Chutney]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terrified-pal-murdered-brit-pair-4303495

Sorry, but why the xxx is the guy sitting with a guitar on the picture? That is just totally out of place...

Well no not really. He's leaving, sitting on the boat, carrying his small backpack and his guitar. What else is he supposed to do with it?

No different to a thousand other young backpackers knocking around Asia with some kind of musical instrument ( or fire twirling sticks) and competing with one another to be the coolest lightest traveler. LPTT is awash with them earnestly discussing cutting their toothbrush in half to get the smallest lightest pack and bigging up their chilli tolerance.

He may be a bit of a knob but no reason to doubt his genuine distress and fear.

[khunpa]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terrified-pal-murdered-brit-pair-4303495

Sorry, but why the xxx is the guy sitting with a guitar on the picture? That is just totally out of place...

Because the interview was taken on the ferry pier just before he left Tao - you can see that from the video as well.

So he was playing his guitar to calm his nerves????

[jabis]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terrified-pal-murdered-brit-pair-4303495

Sorry, but why the xxx is the guy sitting with a guitar on the picture? That is just totally out of place...

Because the interview was taken on the ferry pier just before he left Tao - you can see that from the video as well.

So he was playing his guitar to calm his nerves????

Where the hell did you pick up _playing_ the guitar? Oh you people

[Chutney]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terrified-pal-murdered-brit-pair-4303495

Sorry, but why the xxx is the guy sitting with a guitar on the picture? That is just totally out of place...

Because the interview was taken on the ferry pier just before he left Tao - you can see that from the video as well.

So he was playing his guitar to calm his nerves????

He's on the boat. Have you ever been on those Island boats?! They are not equipped with special guitar racks. he's just holding it not serenading the journalists.

[Lukecan]

So what's happening now? Is Sean's accusation being followed up by an arrest or DNA test on the accused? As its a high profile figure has he made a statement defending the allegations? Or will we have to wait another day, oh painful ever so painful day until we see justice prevail in Thailand. Bring us justice and let them R.I.P

If a powerful local is involved in these murders, then I am sorry to say but you will not see justice. That has been proven again and again here in Thailand.

If there is pressure from Bangkok then it will be solved. Some local douche in that Island can't have enough power over Bangkok. The new PM has a good chance to prove his worth.

[mataleo]

So what's happening now? Is Sean's accusation being followed up by an arrest or DNA test on the accused? As its a high profile figure has he made a statement defending the allegations? Or will we have to wait another day, oh painful ever so painful day until we see justice prevail in Thailand. Bring us justice and let them R.I.P

If a powerful local is involved in these murders, then I am sorry to say but you will not see justice. That has been proven again and again here in Thailand.

If there is pressure from Bangkok then it will be solved. Some local douche in that Island can't have enough power over Bangkok. The new PM has a good chance to prove his worth.

PM left to Italy

[Wilsonandson]

If most of the British tabloids are reporting Seans story and if the British embassy is also helping then it must be followed up by Thai authorities with total transparency to prove without doubt either way whether this is true or not.

[Sampradaya]

Yes! Which westener will use something like a hoe to kill?

I guess its all about saving face, pass the buck.

[jabis]

@Chutney,

He's on the boat. Have you ever been on those Island boats?! They are not equipped with special guitar racks. he's just holding it not serenading the journalists.

Have to correct you somewhat - that's a tuk tuk he's sitting on by the looks of it Tho you're dead-on with the serenading part - I can't believe some of these folks here

[khunpa]

So what's happening now? Is Sean's accusation being followed up by an arrest or DNA test on the accused? As its a high profile figure has he made a statement defending the allegations? Or will we have to wait another day, oh painful ever so painful day until we see justice prevail in Thailand. Bring us justice and let them R.I.P

If a powerful local is involved in these murders, then I am sorry to say but you will not see justice. That has been proven again and again here in Thailand.

If there is pressure from Bangkok then it will be solved. Some local douche in that Island can't have enough power over Bangkok. The new PM has a good chance to prove his worth.

PM left to Italy

For meetings in Sicily?

[SteveFong]

his facebook pleas of death threats have already been processed by law enforcement, as those words are keywords that go right to the FBI and CIA in the US. Also, Facebook reports directly to law enforcement all threats.

this was a good thing he did posting the threats,

if people will now upload the video interview to their own pages, which they will, this gruesome crime will just now begin to receive substantially more attention than before,

Sean may have just assisted in the case in ways that no one expected,

the pictures of those two guys, are the key, and, while they may have been taken off the profile page of Sean's facebook, they are in trhe hands of law enforcement, you can bet your life on it that they are being followed up, and I would expect now when this young man lands in Briton, there will be more reporting and he will be interviewed by the police there.

[Number 3]

So what's happening now? Is Sean's accusation being followed up by an arrest or DNA test on the accused? As its a high profile figure has he made a statement defending the allegations? Or will we have to wait another day, oh painful ever so painful day until we see justice prevail in Thailand. Bring us justice and let them R.I.P

If a powerful local is involved in these murders, then I am sorry to say but you will not see justice. That has been proven again and again here in Thailand.

If there is pressure from Bangkok then it will be solved. Some local douche in that Island can't have enough power over Bangkok. The new PM has a good chance to prove his worth.

If there is pressure from Bangkok ? Then it will be solved ?

That's a brilliant idea why hadn't we simply thought to ask Bangkok to pressure the police is it ?

Or the mafia ? Or the subservient island folk ? Or the westerner that was chased out lucky not to have been hanged.

Days into the investigation can someone sing out to Bangkok for some pressure now please as this case will now be solved.

[andyIslandMan]

@Chutney,

He's on the boat. Have you ever been on those Island boats?! They are not equipped with special guitar racks. he's just holding it not serenading the journalists.

Have to correct you somewhat - that's a tuk tuk he's sitting on by the looks of it Tho you're dead-on with the serenading part - I can't believe some of these folks here

There aren't any tuk tuk's on Koh Tao - if you look closer it's the back of a pick up truck which given who run the local taxi's I'm not sure I would be sitting in giving an interview!

[Wilsonandson]

How much is this gangstar worth? Cause he took 2 precious lives. I believe in the saying "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" if you are the killer?

[jabis]

@Chutney,

He's on the boat. Have you ever been on those Island boats?! They are not equipped with special guitar racks. he's just holding it not serenading the journalists.

Have to correct you somewhat - that's a tuk tuk he's sitting on by the looks of it Tho you're dead-on with the serenading part - I can't believe some of these folks here

There aren't any tuk tuk's on Koh Tao - if you look closer it's the back of a pick up truck which given who run the local taxi's I'm not sure I would be sitting in giving an interview!

Ah I stand corrected - I was on mainland with the tuk tuk-estimation, tho songthaew / other public transport mean was my gist.

And I'd suggest being surrounded by a bunch of foreign journalists with videocameras would ease ones mind to relative safety at the time being, at least to some degree.

[lucaswallachia]

And also the fact the island is crawling with police now, its very unlikely any crime would be committed at the moment.

[Wan123]

There is a wise guy there, I could tell some years ago when I saw him at the table: he was untypically loud and seemed to act very friendly with women. I later asked someone about him and they said he was the local Thai mafia--who shouldn't be there in the first place....

[mataleo]

his facebook pleas of death threats have already been processed by law enforcement, as those words are keywords that go right to the FBI and CIA in the US. Also, Facebook reports directly to law enforcement all threats.

this was a good thing he did posting the threats,

if people will now upload the video interview to their own pages, which they will, this gruesome crime will just now begin to receive substantially more attention than before,

Sean may have just assisted in the case in ways that no one expected,

the pictures of those two guys, are the key, and, while they may have been taken off the profile page of Sean's facebook, they are in trhe hands of law enforcement, you can bet your life on it that they are being followed up, and I would expect now when this young man lands in Briton, there will be more reporting and he will be interviewed by the police there.

He is going to italy to his gf

[Wilsonandson]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByJST9-CMAAEVhn.jpg Seen this on twitter?

[MJP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByJST9-CMAAEVhn.jpg Seen this on twitter?

So could be the "guy on the left" is genuinely concerned, perhaps looking for Sean to make sure he was okay.

[Wilsonandson]

Mr Nice or Mr Nasty? Just take his DNA and see if it matches that at the crime scene.

[balo]

The fact is that Sean was threatened to get killed by two thai guys , not the ones on the pitcure. It would be easy for Sean to give the description of them to the police, I am sure he already did that .

SO lets focus on that instead of innocent bar owners .

Edited September 22, 2014 by balo

[Lozza]

Hello, I've been lurking these threads since last week and I've decided to make an account to post something quite interesting.

Watch the last video at the bottom of this artcle, and pay close attention to a guy at the 38 second mark, who is at the crime scene with the police.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2764576/My-David-died-hero-Father-backpacker-murdered-Thailand-says-son-tried-save-female-victim-s-revealed-raped-two-local-men.html

Now it's not exactly conclusive, but he looks remarkably like the guy on the left from the pictures Sean Mc posted on facebook last night, saying he was the leader.

Seems suspicious that he'd be with the police at the crime scene doesn't it.

Dailymail is banned here... got another link to the vid?

See screen shot attached.

Well without sounding like judge and jury- the resemblance to a very clear shot posted on Sean's veevo account is uncanny. I would have to agree with that. What is his role there on the main stage with police ? Odd to simply have an islander tagging along. Has to be from a ruling island family to be allowed near this lot wouldn't you say ?

I noticed this a week ago and posted questioning why he was with the police can't find my previous post, jn a rush sorry but the general made a comment in his report saying the suspect is in the video (which is this video the 1st one) I highlighted the comment. This guy appears to have turned up with the police lagging behind, my first thought was destroying evidence and I was right that would be the only reason for him to there.

I also noticed on the 'runner' on the left hand side of the photo there's a guy watching the runner he appears to be a well dressed farang.

I'm praying hard this will all end soon and karma has arrived.

[Lozza]

Hello, I've been lurking these threads since last week and I've decided to make an account to post something quite interesting.

Watch the last video at the bottom of this artcle, and pay close attention to a guy at the 38 second mark, who is at the crime scene with the police.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2764576/My-David-died-hero-Father-backpacker-murdered-Thailand-says-son-tried-save-female-victim-s-revealed-raped-two-local-men.html

Now it's not exactly conclusive, but he looks remarkably like the guy on the left from the pictures Sean Mc posted on facebook last night, saying he was the leader.

Seems suspicious that he'd be with the police at the crime scene doesn't it.

Dailymail is banned here... got another link to the vid?

See screen shot attached.

Well without sounding like judge and jury- the resemblance to a very clear shot posted on Sean's veevo account is uncanny. I would have to agree with that. What is his role there on the main stage with police ? Odd to simply have an islander tagging along. Has to be from a ruling island family to be allowed near this lot wouldn't you say ?

I noticed this a week ago and posted questioning why he was with the police can't find my previous post, jn a rush sorry but the general made a comment in his report saying the suspect is in the video (which is this video the 1st one) I highlighted the comment. This guy appears to have turned up with the police lagging behind, my first thought was destroying evidence and I was right that would be the only reason for him to there.

I also noticed on the 'runner' on the left hand side of the photo there's a guy watching the runner he appears to be a well dressed farang.

I'm praying hard this will all end soon and karma has arrived.

[phuketandsee]

his facebook pleas of death threats have already been processed by law enforcement, as those words are keywords that go right to the FBI and CIA in the US. Also, Facebook reports directly to law enforcement all threats.

this was a good thing he did posting the threats,

if people will now upload the video interview to their own pages, which they will, this gruesome crime will just now begin to receive substantially more attention than before,

Sean may have just assisted in the case in ways that no one expected,

the pictures of those two guys, are the key, and, while they may have been taken off the profile page of Sean's facebook, they are in trhe hands of law enforcement, you can bet your life on it that they are being followed up, and I would expect now when this young man lands in Briton, there will be more reporting and he will be interviewed by the police there.

He is going to italy to his gf

PM and Sean both going to Italy? Hmmmm

[Fat Haggis]

With regards to the Richard Barrow tweets, I'm sure Fred West and Harold Shipmans neighbours and friends thought the very same thing as Claus feels

[phuketandsee]

I'm trying to keep up on multiple threads so I may have missed this but has anyone passed the screen shot pics of the alleged bar owner/guy on the beach to the Western media?