Baby Born In Bangkok

[christhomas82]

Hi,

hope someone can guide me on this:

I currently live in Britain,

My son was born 7 days ago in bangkok, I am in the process of obtaining a 6 month travel visa for my partner, I am using a VISA company in Pattaya.

Other than that I am stuck on what is the quickest and easiest way of bringing the baby back.

I have a THAI birth certificate which I am just about to get certified and translated, if I was to obtain a thai passport for the baby, would he be able to travel to the united kingdom, or would he in tern need a visa?

Other question, am I able to apply for a british passport for my son from Britain? Are there any steps to this process in which I would need to go to bangkok, or can it all be done from here as long as I register the birth here and obtain passport photos?

Would be great full for any assistance or guidance, severely stressed!!!

Many Thanks

CHRIS THOMAS

[Maestro]

I am moving this topic to the forum for visas to other countries.

[Richard W]

I'm beginning to think the quickest and easiest way is to get him a Thai passport and then pay £289 + currency swing cushion to have it endorsed with a certificate of right of abode. A better method would be to get him British and Thai passports (I fear he needs the Thai passport to leave Thailand), but the various threads suggest there is a lot of hassle if the father lives in the UK and the mother in Thailand.

Good luck with the visa for his mother - you'd probably be better going for a settlement visa for her, especially if you don't intend to separate mother and child.

[christhomas82]

Thanks for your response,

I guess the question I am looking for an answer to is how easy is it to get a British passport for a baby born in Thailand?, I was hoping I could do everything from here but have heard mixed messages.

With regard to my partner, I was going to get a settlement visa immediately, however I was advised that if she has not been here before it would be best to obtain a 6 month tourist first, then she would have to go back after six months, however when she is here I could get a speaking and listening test done which is far easier than the one that they have to sit in Bangkok? Apparently this document can then be used and taken back to thailand to obtain a settlement visa?

I would love nothing more than to get a settlement visa immediately however I am worried that my partner speaks english fine, however her reading and writing is poor.

I am extremely worried and anxious about loosing them after six months, as far as I am aware there is absolutely no way she could obtain a settlement visa after going back for six months sooner than waiting a six month period after the initial visit, could someone confirm this, the visa firm I am using seem to suggest that it could be done. However I am extremely questionable about this as I know visa firms are money orientated

Many thanks for your replies

CHRIS THOMAS

[Richard W]

I would love nothing more than to get a settlement visa immediately however I am worried that my partner speaks english fine, however her reading and writing is poor.

Reading and writing are formally not required - see discussions on tests for how to get round the unnecessary testing of these skills.

I am extremely worried and anxious about loosing them after six months, as far as I am aware there is absolutely no way she could obtain a settlement visa after going back for six months sooner than waiting a six month period after the initial visit, could someone confirm this, the visa firm I am using seem to suggest that it could be done.

From my ancient experience, I would say you are better going straight for a settlement visa. The six month waiting period you are talking of is a gap between visits. If I were an ECO, I would refuse your partner a visitor's visa on the basis that she would have no reason to return to Thailand. On the other hand, your relationship has already lasted at least 9 months, and the child provides reason to believe that she intends the relationship to last.

[elvisp1977]

For the child's passport( if you do in Thailand) you will need the child's birth certificate ( translated); tabien ban entry( translated) and a Thai passport. You will also need to copy every page of your passport in color. I would also copy every page of your wife's passport too in colour as they might want to have confirmed that you and your wife were together at the point of conception! You will also need your wedding certificate and a translation. Proof of your adress( if your base is in England then photo id; voter;s cards; letters from government/ medical card. they can also accept utility bills. In addition you could provide them with some family photo's. Not forgetting getting a UK friend in Thailand you have known for more than two years who can certify that the picture of the child is a true likeness. It's not too easy either to take a picture of a very young child either..you will need the picture taken with cream or white background...make sure you get the dimensions right too.

It's important to get this right as if your wife lives in the far reaches of Thailand she will be requested to go the trendy building on Soi 13 to submit the additional information.

If they require additional information the whole process could take about three months..you need to factor that into your plans possibly..

Some posters here have suggested that it is easier to do it over here in the UK...however you would have to get the child over here first on a family visit visa..

Cheers..

Edited September 29, 2014 by elvisp1977

[Richard W]

Some posters here have suggested that it is easier to do it over here in the UK...however you would have to get the child over here first on a family visit visa..

Or a certificate of right of abode. The problem with this pricier but more certain route is that I don't know the mechanics of transferring the evidence of the right of abode to a British passport. One can't have both a certificate of right of abode in a current passport and a British passport.

[7by7]

To obtain a British passport for your child see Overseas British passport applications. You do not have to be in Thailand, but do need to supply certain documents, such as your long form birth certificate.

Note that the application will take at least 8 weeks to process.

Alternatively, you could apply for an emergency travel document for the child. See under Emergency travel document for children on this page.

If your child has neither of the above, s/he will need a visa in their Thai passport to enter the UK.

If the intention is for your partner and child to live with you in the UK then a settlement visa is the obvious answer; see UK settlement visa basics.

Note that, unless you have been living together in a relationship akin to marriage outside the UK for at least 2 years prior to the application, you will either need to marry in Thailand so she can apply as your spouse, or she applies as your fiancée and you then marry within 6 months of her arrival in the UK.

You will see that the language requirement for the initial visa is speaking and listening only. She will need to pass a written test for Indefinite Leave to Remain, but will have 5 years in which to do so.

Normally, a visitor cannot spend more than 6 months out of any 12 in the UK; but there is no reason why your partner cannot spend 6 months in the UK as a visitor and then return top Thailand and immediately apply for settlement.

But return to Thailand she will have to do; visit visas cannot be converted to settlement inside the UK.

So I repeat, if the intention is to live in the UK then forget about a visit visa and go for settlement; unless she does not currently meet all of the requirements but will do so in 6 months time or you do not yet meet the financial requirement but will do so in 6 months time. In which case a visit visa so you can spend that 6 months together with your child is a good idea.

But to get one she will have to convince the ECO that this is just a visit and that she knows she has to return to Thailand to apply for settlement and will do so; or at least leave the UK when or before her visit visa expires.