Gandtee Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 If my memory serves me right wasn't a certain absconded Prime Ministers' son let off from paying what was considered the correct amount of tax ?I wonder if that will be investigated again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rethaier Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Finance minister admits corruption in tax collection departments This statement constitutes in my mind a perfect, legitimate and valid legal argument to stop paying taxes to the government, until they have purged the system. How many times have I heard this in western countries. You sit back in your chairs and make these wild statements but are you organizing the revolution? Oh, of course not, you are just an idea warrior who expects the masses to heed your advice and start the revolution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Eric Loh post # 17. You mean corruption is still prevalent in this government and not exclusive to the Thaksin regime. Corrupt practices are ingrained into the Thai character and according to recent popular surveys condoned and considered an acceptable and normal part of daily life by Thai's. The removal or cure for this cancerous blight of corruption is going to be very slow and painful much as is the cure for cancer itself Sad to say we also know there is at this moment in time little chance of defeating cancer 100%, much the same situation as curing the cancer of corruption that is endemic to the Thai people among many other peoples too. Now Mr.Loh if you are so clever why don't you step up and announce your plans for dealing with the cancer of corruption? Talk is cheap, now let us all see you put your ideas forward in a positive fashion as opposed to using chap worthless rhetoric. I don't recall you being so active prior to the change of administrations regarding corrupt practices. Surely you do not have an hidden agenda do you? ; If I may take a little exception to this part " Corrupt practices are ingrained into the Thai character and according to recent popular surveys condoned and considered an acceptable and normal part of daily life by Thai's." I believe that getting rid of it was a part of the reasons the many groups against Shinawatism started up before Suthep united them. An "honest" man in government. Unlike the "not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS" obamy. Hi Barry, how's it going in the land of fools and how are the sheeple??? Why ask just look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanet Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Blah blah blah ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Finance minister admits corruption in tax collection departments This statement constitutes in my mind a perfect, legitimate and valid legal argument to stop paying taxes to the government, until they have purged the system. How many times have I heard this in western countries. You sit back in your chairs and make these wild statements but are you organizing the revolution? Oh, of course not, you are just an idea warrior who expects the masses to heed your advice and start the revolution. As I said: this constitutes in my mind..., meaning: it is my opinion and you better heed my advice and start the revolution, or I have to get out of my chair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Eric Loh post # 17. You mean corruption is still prevalent in this government and not exclusive to the Thaksin regime. Corrupt practices are ingrained into the Thai character and according to recent popular surveys condoned and considered an acceptable and normal part of daily life by Thai's. The removal or cure for this cancerous blight of corruption is going to be very slow and painful much as is the cure for cancer itself Sad to say we also know there is at this moment in time little chance of defeating cancer 100%, much the same situation as curing the cancer of corruption that is endemic to the Thai people among many other peoples too. Now Mr.Loh if you are so clever why don't you step up and announce your plans for dealing with the cancer of corruption? Talk is cheap, now let us all see you put your ideas forward in a positive fashion as opposed to using chap worthless rhetoric. I don't recall you being so active prior to the change of administrations regarding corrupt practices. Surely you do not have an hidden agenda do you? ; I take comfort knowing that you agreed that corruption was prevalent and ingrained and Thaksin was no exception. Somehow the PDRC and recent coups were about bringing down Thaksin corruption which seem rather lame which was never the real reason, just a poor excuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Let us not get so precious about this, we all have our price but there should be consequences for getting caught which is something that is sorely lacking in this unfortunate society. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHank Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 The Finance Minister's last name is "Phasi"?! Doesn't that mean "tax" in Thai? (I suppose it would depend on the tone and the spelling in Thai, but this is how I would write it in English. What an interesting coincidence!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Forensic accountants to go over the assets of all politicians and government officials who make decisions on awarding government projects. That would be where I would start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 We understand there you say you want to stop corruption. Start saying how you will aggressively find and prosecute them and show results. Until then.... Well there will be meetings maybe for the worst cases even warnings. I doubt so hard actions like moving someone on an inactive post (at full salary) are necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab5BKK Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 It'll be quicker to show where there's no corruption at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab5BKK Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "TiT" "falangs don't understand thai culture" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suriya4 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 You mean corruption is still prevalent in this government and not exclusive to the Thaksin regime. I think he said that there are many corruption by Thaksin. Since Prayuth took over, all civil servants received the order from Prayuth to stop the practice, and they did. Remember this: No Shin, No Corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "Remember this: No Shin, No Corruption." What planet are you living on? Have you ever been to Thailand? This is most absurd conclusion I have read on TV in years, and that is saying something! In a related story, government inspectors went to several gogo bars and were shocked and amazed that some of the employees were willing to have sex with customers for money.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 An 11% shortfall in expected Tax receipts has recently been published for the fiscal Y/E . Now thats a lot of money. I really dont know just how rotten Thailand has become with all the corruption and graft, but one thing is for sure, Its still there, and its huge, so the " Government " for all the hot air, really need to soon start making some high profile court cases to save the little remaining credibility that Thailand has. This load of corruption has been inherited from previous governments so why aren't the whingers and moaners complaining about those governments too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "Representatives from the Association of Siamese Architects, Association of Thai Engineers and the National Anti-Corruption Commission will be invited to observe the procurement process." But not representatives from the Purchasing and Supply Chain Management Association of Thailand, who happen to be experts, affiliated to international professional bodies, in procurement processes and ensuring corruption free tender and contract award processes. We're going to buy some buses, let's invite the architects. Next time we commission some building works we can invite the police again, that'll work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatyaier Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Glad to hear him admit it. I want to be optimistic and admitting it is a start. Corruption is so rampant in government positions that to even slow it down would be a gigantic task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) We understand there you say you want to stop corruption. Start saying how you will aggressively find and prosecute them and show results. Until then.... Good point. Where's the usual strong ' crackdown ' type language ? That's not to say crackdowns ever achieve much if they actually happen but he hasn't even gone through the motions. Exactly, next week you will see yet another "CRACKDOWN" which means absolutely nothing will change,,, I believe Thailand has had a number of CORRUPTION HOT LINES proclaimed, Try actually doing something instead of announcing crackdowns as someone is making waves so the need to show the public there is action, <deleted>!!!!!!!! Here's an idea instead of some one announcing a crackdown how about they instead announce a successful prosecution and then throw themselves in gaol for the same crime... Well it is like this. They have only been in office 5 months. Remember when you were all excited waiting for Yingluck to solve the worlds problems after 6 months were up. Also it takes time to prosecute. Should be a crackdown on goofy posting on Thai Visa. 5 months beaches cabs national forests people should open their eyes instead of their mouth. Just the beginning. Or are you one of the horde who thinks the government should check with you every time they make a move? Edited October 17, 2014 by northernjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzman Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Thailand, the hub of crackdowns, unfortunately it's not the hub of indictments! Just blowing air thru their mouths, of course there is always the transfer to an inactive post if found not sharing the spoils,haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 To begin with, he disclosed that within a month from now, a hotline will be opened at the Finance Ministry to enable members of the public to file reports or complaints of suspected corruption. Would be interesting if they created a hotline for public servants to report or complain anonymously or with "whistle blower" protection. Contrary to popular TV belief not all Thais condone corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "Remember this: No Shin, No Corruption." What planet are you living on? Have you ever been to Thailand? This is most absurd conclusion I have read on TV in years, and that is saying something! In a related story, government inspectors went to several gogo bars and were shocked and amazed that some of the employees were willing to have sex with customers for money.... you have to excuse him suriya4 is Thai,he can't help it it's not his fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "Remember this: No Shin, No Corruption." What planet are you living on? Have you ever been to Thailand? This is most absurd conclusion I have read on TV in years, and that is saying something! In a related story, government inspectors went to several gogo bars and were shocked and amazed that some of the employees were willing to have sex with customers for money.... you have to excuse him suriya4 is Thai,he can't help it it's not his fault. Everyone can have his/her own opinion especially the educated high heel Bangkokian just like Ms Chitpaz. Will be very hard for reconcilation for those stuck with disdain for the uneducated low heel peasants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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