Bredbury Blue Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 2 hours ago, alfieconn said: Well 3 players we didn't buy Townsend, Caulker, Livermoore sold for 28m, you can do the sums for your mob Here you go.... Unfortunately due to City's policy of undisclosed fees it's hard to know how much City have earned in 'Transfer Fees In'. How much are those players sold really worth (using *current value)? Well taking a stab at it: [*Used http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk for market values.] Dedryck Boyata £1,500,000 - sale value Micah Richards Free - market value, £4,250,000 (seems undervalued to me) John Guidetti Released - market value, £6,800,000 Jordy Hiwula £150,000 - sale value Karim Rekik Marcos 'Rony' Lopes Emyr Huws £2,500,000 - sale value Jeremy Helan Denis Suárez Greg Cunningham Undisclosed - market value, £425,000 Vladimir Weiss £1,500,000 - sale value Chris Chantler Undisclosed - market value, £150,000 Kieran Trippier Undisclosed - market value, £3,500,000 (value to Spurs) Nedum Onuoha £2,750,000 - sale value Ben Mee Undisclosed - market value, £3,000,000 David Ball £50,000 - sale value TOTAL = £26,575,000 If we extend the "since 2011" criteria to "since the commencement of the 2011/12 season" (i.e. an extra 4 months), we can add in to that: Stephen Ireland £8,000,000 - sale value TOTAL = £34,575,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 28 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said: Here you go.... Unfortunately due to City's policy of undisclosed fees it's hard to know how much City have earned in 'Transfer Fees In'. How much are those players sold really worth (using *current value)? Well taking a stab at it: [*Used http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk for market values.] Dedryck Boyata £1,500,000 - sale value Micah Richards Free - market value, £4,250,000 (seems undervalued to me) John Guidetti Released - market value, £6,800,000 Jordy Hiwula £150,000 - sale value Karim Rekik Marcos 'Rony' Lopes Emyr Huws £2,500,000 - sale value Jeremy Helan Denis Suárez Greg Cunningham Undisclosed - market value, £425,000 Vladimir Weiss £1,500,000 - sale value Chris Chantler Undisclosed - market value, £150,000 Kieran Trippier Undisclosed - market value, £3,500,000 (value to Spurs) Nedum Onuoha £2,750,000 - sale value Ben Mee Undisclosed - market value, £3,000,000 David Ball £50,000 - sale value TOTAL = £26,575,000 If we extend the "since 2011" criteria to "since the commencement of the 2011/12 season" (i.e. an extra 4 months), we can add in to that: Stephen Ireland £8,000,000 - sale value TOTAL = £34,575,000 Whats Market value got to do with it,it ses Man City have received over £26m in transfer fees we're talking about transfer fee's you know how much money your club was paid, Richards went on a free Guidetti, market value now 6.8m you sold him for 2.98m in July 2015 Huw's you bought from Swansea Tripper's value to Spurs 3.5m , what's that got to do with how much you sold him to Burnley for I could go on but i won't waste my time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, alfieconn said: Whats Market value got to do with it,it ses Man City have received over £26m in transfer fees we're talking about transfer fee's you know how much money your club was paid, Richards went on a free Guidetti, market value now 6.8m you sold him for 2.98m in July 2015 Huw's you bought from Swansea Tripper's value to Spurs 3.5m , what's that got to do with how much you sold him to Burnley for I could go on but i won't waste my time. "Unfortunately due to City's policy of undisclosed fees it's hard to know how much City have earned in 'Transfer Fees In'. How much are those players sold really worth (using *current value)? " - get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Steaua București (ROU) v Manchester City (ENG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Porto (POR) v Roma (ITA) Ajax (NED) v Rostov (RUS) Young Boys (SUI) v Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) Villarreal (ESP) v Monaco (FRA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Yesterday in the behind-doors friendly (why was that necessary!) City won 3-0 over St. Johnstone with Fabian Delph, David Silva and Fernandinho all scoring. lineup yet to be confirmed but i read that it "appears to have been Hart, Zabaleta, Kolorov, Clichy, Silva, Fernandinho, Sterling, Nolito, Toure and Aguero"...(continuing our CentreBack-less formation this summer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said: We’ve bought a player who will join us in January 2017. City will start paying Gabriel Jesus’s wages only once he leaves Palmeiras. ha ha,,,, for 27 mil,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnectionNotGuaranteed Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 1 hour ago, rijit said: ha ha,,,, for 27 mil,,,, Do you just come on to troll and bait or do you have a serious problem with reading and digesting information. Guys like you really make it difficult to discuss anything on these forums. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I sure will be glad when the season starts ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Manchester City to sign another Spaniard as part of relationship with Girona FC Manchester City’s relationship with Spanish Segunda División club Girona FC began a year ago and was one of the first hints that Pep Guardiola would soon take charge at the Etihad. Pep’s brother and football agent, Pere Guardiola, and his business partner in the Media Base Sports agency, Jaume Roures, purchased 80 per cent of the Spanish club, and then an alliance was formed with City. City made the interesting move of signing two players to benefit the help the Catalonia-based side. They purchased Florian Lejeune from Girona in an apparent strategy to stop him from joining another club, then loaned him back, before selling him to La Liga side Eibar for a £1 million profit this summer. Former Real Madrid youth forward Rubén Sobrino was also signed by City from Ponferradina for a small price and loaned to Girona. With Girona failing to achieve promotion, City had cash offers for the striker this summer, but instead loaned him to La Liga outfit Alavés. With Sobrino and Lejeune no longer eligible to play for Girona, Manchester City look set to act again in their efforts to help the Spanish club gain promotion to the top flight. According to many Spanish sources, including Marca, Mundo Deportivo, and local publication Diari de Girona, City are moving to buy 22-year-old central defender Pablo Marí from Girona’s Segunda rivals, Gimnàstic, before loaning him to Girona. Diari de Girona claims that Marí has a clause in his contract allowing him to join a first division side if he receives an offer. Therefore, Manchester City can sign the player, who wants to leave Gimnàstic, and hand him over to Girona. It seems like a logical move for City and Girona, and like with Lejeune, the Premier League club could benefit in the long-term by selling the Spanish defender for a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Manchester City’s revenue generating system explained by partner club, revealing stuff It would be no surprise if top Premier League clubs had a business model to buy young talent, knowing full well the players would unlikely make the first team, with the whole intention on making a profit. It would be an unspoken understanding, but not something clubs would really want to advertise, for fear of being questioned ethically, and through the danger of alienating possible future purchases. Therefore, Manchester City may not be thrilled with FC Twente’s technical director Jan van Halst. The Dutch club have Enes Unal and Yaw Yeboah on loan from City next season. Dutch website Soccer News quote Van Halst as saying: “They buy their selection of top players and they suffer losses, because you write off the huge transfer fees which can sometimes be 30, 40 and 50 million. “But then you try on the other hand to create a kind of profit by getting young talents. The club really knows already that they probably won’t get into the first team in the future.” Van Halst’s believes that Twente offer Manchester City a platform to advertise these players, and they can then grow and turn a profit. Lacking a little football romance isn’t it. In all reality, it’s probably not quite so cold in the vast majority of cases and there’s always a hope, and occasionally an expectation, that the players will reach Manchester City’s first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Manchester City have completed their seventh signing of the summer after agreeing a £4.75m deal with Atletico Nacional for Colombia forward Marlos Moreno, with the 19-year-old heading out on loan immediately to Spanish side Deportivo La Coruna. The 19-year-old has put pen to paper on a five-year deal aftercompleting a £4.75 million switchand he will now go on loan to La Liga side Deportivo La Coruna until the end of the 2016/17 season. He is seen by club officials as a “development player” and will continue his progression on loan before returning to City and fighting for a first-team place. Pep's bringing in youth with pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Third game where we played without recognised centrebacks. Understand Otamendi has a minor injury, Mangala left with the unwanted (Bony and Nasri) in Manchester, Denayer never made it off the bench so it was pairing of Fernando and Kolorov (he's played all 3 games at centre back. ..what!) who are both too slow. Adarabioyo didn't start for a change, came on 2nd half and had a shocker with his distribution and 'set up' Arsenal's 3rd with an awful pass. So we're none the wiser as to who's Pep's favoured CB pairing. Clichy looks to have claimed - quite rightly - LB position. We look better with Zaba playing Pep's passing game; Sagna never looks comfortable with the ball. Both Hart and Caballero don't look happy playing the ball out from the back. Hart had just come on but should have done better with their 1st goal. The whole of the defence looked uncomfortable playing the ball out from the back. The team have taken to pressing and winning the ball back; that has to be a big plus on Pellegrini's approach. Sterling looks far better on the rightside, has more room to manoeuvre, linked well with Silva and Zaba, and put over a fantastic cross for Aguero goal. Nolito on the left looks a hard worker but didn't standout. As usual enjoyed watching KdB late cameo; it was he who almost prompted a comeback. Unlike other teams I've seen preseason we don't look at all ready. We haven't created much but that will improve with kdb's return. Defense is a complete mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) One report I've read about Pep playing Kolorov, Clichy, Fernandinho and Fernando at CB preseason, is to show we're lacking in the position to push management to buy Stones or another CB. Maybe. I'm sure Pep had made his mind up on players at the club from videos he'd have been receiving pre-commencement and he just needs a while with them on the training pitch to conclude his opinion on them. What's confusing is why play Kolorov at CB in all 3 games; you don't have to be a Premier manager to see Kolorov ain't going to be the answer in that position. Fernandinho however might convert to a CB (Kompany, played in midfield, and he initially only got picked by Hughes as a CB due to an injury crisis). I'm surprised Pep didn't give Denayer a bigger run out who seems to have dropped behind Tosin in the pecking order. Most of City's defenders aren't that comfortable with the ball at their feet; Zaba and Clichy are ok, Kompany not too bad, the rest panic. Most of City's defenders aren't blessed with pace; Clichy and Kompany being the exception. If you're slow and uncomfortable with the ball you shouldn't fit under Pep, so why is he picking Kolorov. All very strange. I can definitely see Pep using some of our kid defenders this season (Angelino, Tosin, maybe Maffeo). Defense and competitiveness is where Pellegrini let it slip - Bobby Manc's teams in the seasons he was at the helm had the best goals against record - and this is where I expect Pep to improve us most. I read we're the bookies favourites. Can't see it myself; maybe next season but hopefully Pep will have us offering more - last season never got going. Edited August 8, 2016 by Bredbury Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 City pre-season minutes in full (max.270) 235: Fernandinho 219: Aleks Kolarov 207: Tosin Adarabioyo 170: Gael Clichy 163: Fernando 158: Fabian Delph 135: Willy Caballero, Pablo Maffeo 127: Jesus Navas 126: Angelino 113: Sergio Aguero 112: Kelechi Iheanacho 102: David Silva 100: Aleks Zinchenko 96: Yaya Toure 90: Angus Gunn, Wilfried Bony 86: Raheem Sterling 80: Aleix Garcia 69: Nolito 64: Pablo Zabaleta 45: Joe Hart, Jason Denayer, Nicolas Otamendi, Brandon Barker 35: Bersant Celina 27: Kevin De Bruyne 26: Bacary Sagna 25: Sinan Bytyqi (0: Eliaquim Mangala, Vincent Kompany, Leroy Sane, Ilkay Gundogan, Samir Nasri, Manu Garcia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Man City must cut three foreign stars from Champions League squad by Monday night http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-champions-league-squad-11721728 Interesting article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 city name john stones in their squad list submitted to UEFA for the champions league. whoops. so they've lashed £50m at another lad who can't actually defend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 47.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Stones becomes City’s eighth signing of the 2016 summer transfer window, following in the footsteps of Ilkay Gundogan, Nolito, Aleksandar Zinchenko, Aaron Mooy, Leroy Sane, Gabriel Jesus and Marlos Moreno. Stones, Sanes, Moreno and G.Jesus in a week...not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Hopefully now Pep will be able to jettison his Kolorov at CB nonsense for the opening day fixture. Stones and OtaKamikazeMendi (if he's fit), or Stones and Tosin (bit too similar) or Stones and Fernandinho (prefer him CM) or.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Uh oh...the vultures are gathering ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Come on then let's hear you justify your latest extravagance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Stone me! 50 million for a bag of nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 City buy a player and the vultures are out on the City page. ManU BUY BACK Pogba for 90m...I repeat, 90m (and the highest salary in the Premier)...No comments on the ManU page. Curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said: City buy a player and the vultures are out on the City page. ManU BUY BACK Pogba for 90m...I repeat, 90m (and the highest salary in the Premier)...No comments on the ManU page. Curious. Is he getting more than Rooney then? Hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bredbury Blue Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Announced yesterday that 19yr old Bersant Celina has won City's EDS Player of the Season (Under-21 Premier League); seen him play a few times but yet to catch my eye. Received a 3yr contract last May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 11 hours ago, MrRed said: Stone me! 50 million for a bag of nerves. Personally, I didn't want him at any price. Hope I'm proved wrong and he turns out to be a good buy. I will need a lot of convincing though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 hour ago, mrbojangles said: Personally, I didn't want him at any price. Hope I'm proved wrong and he turns out to be a good buy. I will need a lot of convincing though He has a good attitude but for 50m theres an awful lot of wrinkles need ironing out. But, one, you can afford him and two, he has the potential. It will be interesting to see his progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 8 hours ago, mrbojangles said: Personally, I didn't want him at any price. Hope I'm proved wrong and he turns out to be a good buy. I will need a lot of convincing though Same here. I would have rather had the Italian or nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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