Koh Tao murder suspects retract confessions: 'interpreter assaulted us'

[SteveFong]

I have good reason to now strongly believe

that the cover-up of the murders is now fully exposed

and that we will all soon see the headman and the other people involved,

in handcuffs,

hiding their faces in shame,

as they are forced to re-enact their crimes

I expect a wave of arrests as a result of an article I read, on an un-named social media page, quoting un-named sources who quoted the Ware brothers, and who have named the Nom Sod group as the main and only suspects

We will have to wait for it to be translated to english or for some other means of its reposting capability,

but, this is going to be a very long day for certain un-named people, on a certain un-named island, who were certainly caught on CCTV, and are now, the only suspects

I wonder out loud

what a certain un-named police chief, will have to say about all this

and, will we get to see the people who truly did this crime, paraded on international television screens?

This is truly, something to behold.

The entire Thai society deserves the truth,

everyone deserves the truth

Edited October 23, 2014 by SteveFong

[jaidam]

they say,

every picture tells a story

it is clear why Scotland Yard pulled the surprise early arrival move

Well, they could both be doing Jeremy Beadle impersonations, although it is more likely to be a physical gimp. Interesting.

[changnaam]

The parents are here, they have confirmed that their sons are innocent.

I believe them

[Number 3]

Then I would implore you to consider giving to the fund set up to help these two boys and their families to fight corruption and have a fair and transparent trial. I have posted and posted on TVf however it is continuously taken down.

It may prove detrimental to the fabric of Thai society to help clear the names of and thus allow two innocents to live I guess!

You ll find the site now up on csi la.

[MJP]

Then I would implore you to consider giving to the fund set up to help these two boys and their families to fight corruption and have a fair and transparent trial. I have posted and posted on TVf however it is continuously taken down.

It may prove detrimental to the fabric of Thai society to help clear the names of and thus allow two innocents to live I guess!

You ll find the site now up on csi la.

It's not through any sort of malice Number 3, it's just . . .

Forum rule 22) Members are forbidden to ask for or accept donations, gifts or commissions from other members, any charities must contact support for approval before joining. before joining to be approved.

. . . one of the TVF rules.

[changnaam]

Then I would implore you to consider giving to the fund set up to help these two boys and their families to fight corruption and have a fair and transparent trial. I have posted and posted on TVf however it is continuously taken down.

It may prove detrimental to the fabric of Thai society to help clear the names of and thus allow two innocents to live I guess!

You ll find the site now up on csi la.

I have contributed, and I am sure if people can use google they can too.....

Hint .... You caring

[jdinasia]

The parents are here, they have confirmed that their sons are innocent.

I believe them

LOL.. They confirmed it?? They were in Thailand, on KT, with the 2 Burmese men when they were murdering 2 and raping 1?

[SteveFong]

The parents are here, they have confirmed that their sons are innocent.

I believe them

LOL.. They confirmed it?? They were in Thailand, on KT, with the 2 Burmese men when they were murdering 2 and raping 1?

jd in asia,

John is it?

how long have you been friends with the A/C bar owner?

how well do you know him?

what do you think about the other girls who have come forward to say they were drugged and raped in Kho Tao?

[jdinasia]

The parents are here, they have confirmed that their sons are innocent.

I believe them

LOL.. They confirmed it?? They were in Thailand, on KT, with the 2 Burmese men when they were murdering 2 and raping 1?

jd in asia,

John is it?

how long have you been friends with the A/C bar owner?

how well do you know him?

what do you think about the other girls who have come forward to say they were drugged and raped in Kho Tao?

Not John.

Actually in Thailand (unlike the fong)

Not friends with anyone associated with the AC bar.

Don't know him.

Not relevant.

Not drunk enough to ask stupid questions

[boomerangutang]

You mentioned, "3 should be plenty." 3 is a small number, particularly when squared up against the full force of Thai police and army brass, all of whom are locking arms to maintain the cover-up.

By all indications, the UK specialists are in Thailand as observers only. That could mean; they can look at things, but can't do anything tangible to further the investigation. When I go to an art museum, I'm an observer. I'm not participating in creating art or how the paintings are displayed.

In sum, there are 3 hamstrung observers versus dozens of police brass supported by dozens of army brass. All the brass can make decisions re; the case. The Brits are essentially helpless. I hope I'm wrong, but to allow the Brits to do anything tangible would risk derailing the cover-up, and you get one guess re; whether Thai brass want to do that.

Yes. 3 observers.

They get to observe /evaluate, not interfere.

That sounds like wishful thinking on your part. But you're backed by the self-appointed Thai PM, so you're probably right.

Note: PM Cameron thought he had an agreement with the Thai PM (during their recent meeting) that UK experts would be allowed to contribute to (or aid) the investigation. However, when the Thai PM returned to Thailand, he declared the Brit experts would only be allowed as 'observers.' In other words, 'you can look at the data we've collected, you can look over our shoulders, but don't do any investigative processes without prior approval by us. And by all means: DON'T EVEN MENTION THE HEADMAN'S PEOPLE! They've already been removed from the investigation.'

[jdinasia]

Where did Cameron say he thought he had an agreement to that end?

[SteveFong]

You mentioned, "3 should be plenty." 3 is a small number, particularly when squared up against the full force of Thai police and army brass, all of whom are locking arms to maintain the cover-up.

By all indications, the UK specialists are in Thailand as observers only. That could mean; they can look at things, but can't do anything tangible to further the investigation. When I go to an art museum, I'm an observer. I'm not participating in creating art or how the paintings are displayed.

In sum, there are 3 hamstrung observers versus dozens of police brass supported by dozens of army brass. All the brass can make decisions re; the case. The Brits are essentially helpless. I hope I'm wrong, but to allow the Brits to do anything tangible would risk derailing the cover-up, and you get one guess re; whether Thai brass want to do that.

Yes. 3 observers.

They get to observe /evaluate, not interfere.

That sounds like wishful thinking on your part. But you're backed by the self-appointed Thai PM, so you're probably right.

Note: PM Cameron thought he had an agreement with the Thai PM (during their recent meeting) that UK experts would be allowed to contribute to (or aid) the investigation. However, when the Thai PM returned to Thailand, he declared the Brit experts would only be allowed as 'observers.' In other words, 'you can look at the data we've collected, you can look over our shoulders, but don't do any investigative processes without prior approval by us. And by all means: DON'T EVEN MENTION THE HEADMAN'S PEOPLE! They've already been removed from the investigation.'

I seriously doubt that the Thai PM said any of those things,

I think the opposite happened, that the leader of arguably the european side of the British American empire told the PM that the people of the UK are demanding the truth, and, we will send a team to "help you" since, you have enough on your plate, ok? yes, thanks lad

[Number 3]

The parents are here, they have confirmed that their sons are innocent.

I believe them

LOL.. They confirmed it?? They were in Thailand, on KT, with the 2 Burmese men when they were murdering 2 and raping 1?

jd in asia,

John is it?

how long have you been friends with the A/C bar owner?

how well do you know him?

what do you think about the other girls who have come forward to say they were drugged and raped in Kho Tao?

Here's the plan. These trolls - skip past their post. Happy to say I have identified who not to be knackered reading as they are trolls that are full of their own self importance and vested interests. Leave em to it I say. They will not go away so don't read them. It's cut down my readying time by half as their posts are so boring tedious and unimportant. One big yawn from me sorry guys !

[PoorSucker]

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[boomerangutang]

I'll paraphrase it again, the way I observed it:

PM Cameron and the Thai PM met in person. Among other things, the Brit PM asked if British investigative experts could be allowed to aid in the investigation. It would seem obvious, the Brit PM was referring (among other things) to looking at (and perhaps collecting) evidence, and possibly checking out leads which might lead toward more viable suspects. In a phrase: 'assisting with the investigation.'

However, when the Thai PM returned hours later to Thailand, he emphasized the word 'observers.' There's a difference. Observing only means; watching and perhaps asking a few questions. That's different than pursuing evidence.

In sum, the Thai PM is trying to limit British involvement in the investigation as much as diplomatically possible. No surprise (to me) as it fits snugly in with the cover-up scenario.

[jdinasia]

Your "paraphrase" does not match reality nor what was reported. It is based on assumptions.

[petercool]

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[PaPiPuPePo]

Your "paraphrase" does not match reality nor what was reported. It is based on assumptions.

Actually, it's a very good summary of what happened. I would love to see the alternate version you're proposing, no need to be coy.

I will give you this: you are tireless.

[boomerangutang]

Your "paraphrase" does not match reality nor what was reported. It is based on assumptions.

Actually, it's a very good summary of what happened. I would love to see the alternate version you're proposing, no need to be coy. I will give you this: you are tireless.

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing, and get such varied interpretations.

There could be a brown loaf of bread on a table with 5 people sitting around, each asked to describe what they see.

>>> one sees a Congolese birthday cake

>>> one sees something elitist

>>> one sees glutten, which she's allergic to

>>> one sees a rhino turd

>>> one sees a loaf of bread

[jdinasia]

Your "paraphrase" does not match reality nor what was reported. It is based on assumptions.

Actually, it's a very good summary of what happened. I would love to see the alternate version you're proposing, no need to be coy. I will give you this: you are tireless.

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing, and get such varied interpretations.

There could be a brown loaf of bread on a table with 5 people sitting around, each asked to describe what they see.

>>> one sees a Congolese birthday cake

>>> one sees something elitist

>>> one sees glutten, which she's allergic to

>>> one sees a rhino turd

>>> one sees a loaf of bread

It is nice being the one that sees the bread. The other 4 are wearing tin foil hats. Of them..

1 sees Sean and a push knife

1 sees the uncle and a gun

...

Dad and 120 million

...

But there are more than just 4 of them.

[changnaam]

So who are the others?

I reckon you have an idea?

[boomerangutang]

Your "paraphrase" does not match reality nor what was reported. It is based on assumptions.

Actually, it's a very good summary of what happened. I would love to see the alternate version you're proposing, no need to be coy. I will give you this: you are tireless.

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing, and get such varied interpretations.

There could be a brown loaf of bread on a table with 5 people sitting around, each asked to describe what they see.

>>> one sees a Congolese birthday cake

>>> one sees something elitist

>>> one sees glutten, which she's allergic to

>>> one sees a rhino turd

>>> one sees a loaf of bread

It is nice being the one that sees the bread. The other 4 are wearing tin foil hats. Of them..

1 sees Sean and a push knife

1 sees the uncle and a gun

Dad and 120 million

But there are more than just 4 of them.

I wrote some paragraphs, 2 weeks ago, describing how I saw the crime happening (I don't have link on hand). For starters, I don't see the Burmese involved more than minimal (heard noises or helped dispose of evidence, etc). I see NomSod and friends as perps. Some of those friends could be: Mon, the cop with Mon (who threatened Sean), perhaps one or two others. I see Sean as peripherally involved, perhaps coming to see what was going on, and then getting stabbed by knuckle blade in arm (same weapon which killed David). Perhaps Sean was involved with clandestinely supplying date-rape drug (prior, along with other perps) to Hannah.

I could elaborate, but that's it in a gory nutshell.

[jdinasia]

So who are the others?

I reckon you have an idea?

Conspiracy theorists?? Scads of them

[jdinasia]

Your "paraphrase" does not match reality nor what was reported. It is based on assumptions.

Actually, it's a very good summary of what happened. I would love to see the alternate version you're proposing, no need to be coy. I will give you this: you are tireless.

It's interesting how different people can look at the same thing, and get such varied interpretations.

There could be a brown loaf of bread on a table with 5 people sitting around, each asked to describe what they see.

>>> one sees a Congolese birthday cake

>>> one sees something elitist

>>> one sees glutten, which she's allergic to

>>> one sees a rhino turd

>>> one sees a loaf of bread

It is nice being the one that sees the bread. The other 4 are wearing tin foil hats. Of them..

1 sees Sean and a push knife

1 sees the uncle and a gun

Dad and 120 million

But there are more than just 4 of them.

I wrote some paragraphs, 2 weeks ago, describing how I saw the crime happening (I don't have link on hand). For starters, I don't see the Burmese involved more than minimal (heard noises or helped dispose of evidence, etc). I see NomSod and friends as perps. Some of those friends could be: Mon, the cop with Mon (who threatened Sean), perhaps one or two others. I see Sean as peripherally involved, perhaps coming to see what was going on, and then getting stabbed by knuckle blade in arm (same weapon which killed David). Perhaps Sean was involved with clandestinely supplying date-rape drug (prior, along with other perps) to Hannah.

I could elaborate, but that's it in a gory nutshell.

LOL, sitting with you I would see bread and you would see all the rest

.

Edit -you do know that suggesting someone is guilty who is not a suspect is actionable. I sincerely hope you are using a VPN.

Edited October 27, 2014 by jdinasia

[AGareth2]

I have been scrolling through these threads

one individual seems to be acting in a sociopathic way

why?

[SteveFong]

he is not aa sociopath

he is someone who has a personal interest in the "killers of Kho Tao" remaining free

there is no need to speculate, who and what he is, as, he is clearly acting in the interests of the "rapists on Kho Tao"

he is also working to get as many people as he can to violate the terms of service, so the threads will calm down during this critical two week period,

do NOT fall for this ploy as he is already getting long term posters banned for losing their cool

[boomerangutang]

question for JDinasia: if evidence showed the headman's people were the culprits, would you accept that?

[jdinasia]

question for JDinasia: if evidence showed the headman's people were the culprits, would you accept that?

Absolutely. Real evidence not the crap from conspiracy theorists.

[jdinasia]

question for JDinasia: if evidence showed the headman's people were the culprits, would you accept that?

Absolutely. Real evidence not the crap from conspiracy theorists.

Question back at you. If the semen DNA matches will you accept the guilt of the 2 Burmese men? (it is a little unreasonable to think that they raped but didn't kill- there is still the rest of the circumstantial evidence)

[mark131v]

question for JDinasia: if evidence showed the headman's people were the culprits, would you accept that?

Absolutely. Real evidence not the crap from conspiracy theorists.

Question back at you. If the semen DNA matches will you accept the guilt of the 2 Burmese men? (it is a little unreasonable to think that they raped but didn't kill- there is still the rest of the circumstantial evidence)

Absolutely if the DNA the British Police have from the body matches the DNA the Thai Police Farce have.....would I accept the Thai Police DNA without external verification....would I <deleted>@kk!!!