NACC may sue Ms Yingluck by itself on the rice pledging scheme

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NACC may sue Ms Yingluck by itself on the rice pledging scheme



BANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission will have to decide on November 7 whether it will take the case of negligence of duty against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra to the court directly instead of through the public prosecution.

NACC spokesman Mr Vicha Mahakhun said that the NACC had submitted the case file pertaining to Ms Yingluck’s failure to stop corruption in the rice pledging scheme to the Office of the Attorney-General since August 4.

However, he said that the OAG ruled that the file was incomplete and a joint committee should be set up between the OAG and the NACC to scrutinize the case.

Mr Vicha noted that the NACC would give the OAG until November 7 to rule on the case otherwise the NACC would take the case to the court itself.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/nacc-may-sue-ms-yingluck-rice-pledging-scheme/


-- Thai PBS 2014-10-22

[ramrod711]

I'm not sure what was more screwed up, the rice scam or the effort to prosecute the perpetrators of the scheme. How many fake deadlines will there be?

[thesetat2013]

Maybe the public prosecutors want a future with advancements?

If the NACC truly has enough evidence and is willin to take it to court regardless of the prosecutors then their must be an alterior reason for their lack of willingness of the prosecutors office to take the case.

I think by the deadline you will find the NACC doing it themselves.

[See the bears]

These people are nothing short of the the establishment's hit-men.

[Boxclever]

Now they want to sue Yingluck??? They are making this up as they go along

[whybother]

Now they want to sue Yingluck??? They are making this up as they go along

They want to take her to court ... which is something they've wanted to do for months. The only thing that has changed is that they are talking about doing it themselves because the OAG doesn't seem to want to.

[tx22cb]

Strange - over a hundred complaints/cases have been referred to the NAAC over many years. Some cases have languished without any action for years.

How come this august impartial body suddenly decides to pursue this one particular case with exemplary haste - nay, with intense fervour, even to the extent of overriding the views of the Office of the Attorney-General?

[See the bears]

Strange - over a hundred complaints/cases have been referred to the NAAC over many years. Some cases have languished without any action for years.

How come this august impartial body suddenly decides to pursue this one particular case with exemplary haste - nay, with intense fervour, even to the extent of overriding the views of the Office of the Attorney-General?

Because those in power know that she would destroy them in the next election.

[15Peter20]

It is a shame that the NACC's impressive tenacity at curtailing corruption in this case isn't reflected in its ruling today that members of the National Reform Council don't have to declare their assets. I am sure, dear readers, we are all united in hoping the NACC isn't politically biased.

[chainarong]

Let sleeping dogs lie , resurrecting this every few weeks or months is not helping in the direction of stability, the NACC has had plenty of opportunity to prosecute Ms Yingluck , the wise move is to let this go to the outfield, the game has finished and remember that what goes around comes around , astute gamblers would not place bets on this one.

[oneday]

Wow, the NACC sure does know how to hold a grudge. There is no doubt in my mind this government body is totally biased in favor of the yellow shirts.

[stickyrice2000]

NACC has not been dismantled yet? Well I'll be darned. What a waste of taxpayers' money!

[whybother]

It is a shame that the NACC's impressive tenacity at curtailing corruption in this case isn't reflected in its ruling today that members of the National Reform Council don't have to declare their assets. I am sure, dear readers, we are all united in hoping the NACC isn't politically biased.

Does the NRC have any say over how any government money is spent?

[Ricardo]

These people are nothing short of the the establishment's hit-men.

Who have they killed ?

I've been away, and must have missed it.

[Eric Loh]

NACC better have a good think about going by themself as it may end up rather ambarassing. The OAG office which is the legal adviser to state agencies like the NACC has categorically stated that the evidence are simply not sufficient. This is the office that represent government in court and they have made a legal statement. Now the NACC is ignoring and by-passing them. How would that stand up in court? Money on that they would not have the fortitude to do as they said. Just lots of noise but really no substance. All about the bass...

[SOTIRIOS]

....it did not happen by itself.....

...shouldn't the orchestrators be punished.....???

....and nobody mentions what really happened ..........to.............all the rice...... fit for consumption............and the money paid for it......!!!

[15Peter20]

It is a shame that the NACC's impressive tenacity at curtailing corruption in this case isn't reflected in its ruling today that members of the National Reform Council don't have to declare their assets. I am sure, dear readers, we are all united in hoping the NACC isn't politically biased.

Does the NRC have any say over how any government money is spent?

No. Their responsibility is greater than that.

[whybother]

It is a shame that the NACC's impressive tenacity at curtailing corruption in this case isn't reflected in its ruling today that members of the National Reform Council don't have to declare their assets. I am sure, dear readers, we are all united in hoping the NACC isn't politically biased.

Does the NRC have any say over how any government money is spent?

No. Their responsibility is greater than that.

What does that have to do with their financial position?

[Fat Haggis]

It's called transparency it was the Generals buzzword when he came to power, all it is doing is showing the country that the rich and elite are still running the country irrespective of their shirt colour

[ginjag]

It's called transparency it was the Generals buzzword when he came to power, all it is doing is showing the country that the rich and elite are still running the country irrespective of their shirt colour

So they are all the same------Remember Yinglucks "Buzzword" with the cabinet on camera---ending corruption campaign. No wonder they were kicked out again.

Any inroads on this issue has been welcomed, and many have been made in particular--municipal/provincial. A massive clear-out of officials guilty is ongoing.

It will take years for this past regimes cancer to be mopped up. no matter who is in charge.

[Baerboxer]

It is a shame that the NACC's impressive tenacity at curtailing corruption in this case isn't reflected in its ruling today that members of the National Reform Council don't have to declare their assets. I am sure, dear readers, we are all united in hoping the NACC isn't politically biased.

Does the NRC have any say over how any government money is spent?

I suppose this is your way, as an abject slave of military dictatorship, of suggesting it's not appropriate for the members of the NRC to declare their assets.The NRC is charged with redesigning the entire political system in which the eradication of corruption is a primary objective.

Hence the refusal of the NRC to declare personal assets sends a dreadful message.Since most are academics or similar on low level salaries this should not have been an embarrassing problem.Or is it the case that NRC members like the rest of the Junta's creations just happened to have inherited great wealth or married rich wives?

Frankly I feel soiled at the hypocrisy and dishonest contained when reading your recent posts.How you must feel is hard to imagine - but you can scarcely feel very proud.

His point was well made.. only those who can influence the spending of money or are in a position to profit from their position should be checked. However if they cant profit from corruption and stuff.. why ?

So Jayboy, do explain how are they going to coin their position ?

Whybother makes a good point, as usual. Jayboy's point could also be well made, but he spoils it by appearing condescending and insulting towards the originator.

The NRC may not have financial responsibility. But, they are charged with making reforms which should change the political landscape of Thailand. Certain interested parties may wish to influence and guide those reforms in ways which will be of significant future benefit. I'm guessing this or something similar is what Jayboy alludes to.

The obvious danger is overseas bank accounts which are never revealed. Many politicians seem to have acquired mansions and fleets of luxury cars and openly flaunt their wealth so I shouldn't think the NRC would have anything to fear by an asset declaration anyway. As usual, any laws are only ever selectively enforced.

[whybother]

It's called transparency it was the Generals buzzword when he came to power, all it is doing is showing the country that the rich and elite are still running the country irrespective of their shirt colour

Transparency of what? How could it make a difference whether you know their assets at the start of their tenure and their assets at the end, especially when they are not in a position to change those assets due to their NRC jobs?

[Fat Haggis]

That's one of the biggest problems Ginjag as no government seems to last a full term to make good the changes that are much needed, every 2-6 years there's a coup as the army don't agree with what's going on, there's a pattern there in its own The Military are always at the forefront of political problems.

[whybother]

That's one of the biggest problems Ginjag as no government seems to last a full term to make good the changes that are much needed, every 2-6 years there's a coup as the army don't agree with what's going on, there's a pattern there in its own The Military are always at the forefront of political problems.

Has any Thai government in the 20 years *started* any of the "changes that are much needed"?

[Fat Haggis]

It's called transparency it was the Generals buzzword when he came to power, all it is doing is showing the country that the rich and elite are still running the country irrespective of their shirt colour

Transparency of what? How could it make a difference whether you know their assets at the start of their tenure and their assets at the end, especially when they are not in a position to change those assets due to their NRC jobs?

Because normal and simple academics don't normally amass huge fortunes mate they're not in high paid positions in society that makes their wealth leap out at you

For example If a professor of literature has 60million baht in his account wouldn't you be curious as to HOW he got that?

That's the transparency I'm on about

[Baerboxer]

There are far too many government agencies with overlapping responsibilities and pursuing different agendas.

Sorting that out, should be one of the first priorities of anyone trying to initiate a massive change program. Leaving these old hierarchical structures, with their old allegiances in place is simply allowing blockers in the process.

The OAG have been very favorable to the Shin family. Refusing to prosecute Thaksin for offences to do with the 2010 insurgency as he was not physically in the country at the time although there was enough evidence to do so and accepting Tarits inventive definition of perjury so Yingluck, who had just been appointed PM was not prosecuted. Not just the Shins. No follow up on prosecuting Red Bull boy, other murder cases involving hiso's also allowed to stagnate.

Not exactly a crusading department of justice.

The NACC seem all mouth and no delivery too. What happened to the cases against Tarit for encroachment, Chalerm for tax evasion on his luxury fleet, the MP "with alzheimers" caught voting for his mates, and his mates for handing over their ID's, the forged export rice sales of Arisman's missus company, etc etc.All corruption.

There seems to be a habit of sensational media exposure about a case, then it all just dwindles away. Wonder why that is?

[Baerboxer]

That's one of the biggest problems Ginjag as no government seems to last a full term to make good the changes that are much needed, every 2-6 years there's a coup as the army don't agree with what's going on, there's a pattern there in its own The Military are always at the forefront of political problems.

Has any Thai government in the 20 years *started* any of the "changes that are much needed"?

No.

[Fat Haggis]

That's one of the biggest problems Ginjag as no government seems to last a full term to make good the changes that are much needed, every 2-6 years there's a coup as the army don't agree with what's going on, there's a pattern there in its own The Military are always at the forefront of political problems.

Has any Thai government in the 20 years *started* any of the "changes that are much needed"?

Why just 20 years ? Could it be that it's because your aluding to the PTP tenure years being he biggest issue ?

It's been a mess for over 30 years by all accounts and before the Thaksin era again by all accounts the poor and majority of the country never had any say or input into how things should be.

The problem with many of the elite on both sides is they care nothing for the common man, and yet they need his vote to get into power.

Once the them and us attitude changes in Thailand things might get more stable politically, but as long as people look down on the Issan people it's never going to happen, Thaialnd is a divided country at best between the haves and the have nots nothing will change that.

Anyways it's getting off topic

[whybother]

That's one of the biggest problems Ginjag as no government seems to last a full term to make good the changes that are much needed, every 2-6 years there's a coup as the army don't agree with what's going on, there's a pattern there in its own The Military are always at the forefront of political problems.

Has any Thai government in the 20 years *started* any of the "changes that are much needed"?

Why just 20 years ? Could it be that it's because your aluding to the PTP tenure years being he biggest issue ?

It's been a mess for over 30 years by all accounts and before the Thaksin era again by all accounts the poor and majority of the country never had any say or input into how things should be.

The problem with many of the elite on both sides is they care nothing for the common man, and yet they need his vote to get into power.

Once the them and us attitude changes in Thailand things might get more stable politically, but as long as people look down on the Issan people it's never going to happen, Thaialnd is a divided country at best between the haves and the have nots nothing will change that.

Anyways it's getting off topic

I picked a number. 20 years goes back before Thaksin. The point is that the army stepping in hasn't stopped changes being made, when the changes weren't even started.

[Fat Haggis]

How do Thais move forward then? Not like they care about the thoughts of a few opinionated farangs lol