Popular Post wellred Posted November 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2014 Csi la today noted that the 2 Burmese lads have always worn wristbands, and even had them on after being arrested. Yet if the person running around in the CCTV video was one of them where were the wristbands? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthEnergiser Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Any persons know to be holding information on this investigation should treated as suspects , the D.S.I have to step in to much covering up. With all the cameras on that island and no one can identify the number 9 in video shaking hands with David (yeah right ) The police are geeting a lot more pressure on them now and I honestly think Prayuth no a lot more than we are hearing i am sure he would have an undercover investigation ongoing. The Leg chains have been removed from the suspects that is telling something . There are too doubts about the DNA especially after the comedy show the other day . Why wont the police let the UK carry out all DNA testing on all eveidence . This Is not going to end nice for the a lot of police involve in this investigation. Also when will the UK police confirm that they were happy with the way Thai Police investigation was done and that they would have done it the same way ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Nong KhaiKid post # 26 Doesn't the NHRC realise the BIB won't talk to them about the case, the only ones the BIB communicate with is the media. Doesn't the NHRC realise the BIB won't talk to them about the case, the only ones the BIB communicate with is those who hold large monetary bills in their hands or are clutching bulky manila envelopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yes I agree it won't end nicely for the police, especially if they were involved in the murders. Why is an off duty police man allowed to go around chasing and threatening tourists. Shouldn't that be investigated.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustBucket Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Any persons know to be holding information on this investigation should treated as suspects , the D.S.I have to step in to much covering up. With all the cameras on that island and no one can identify the number 9 in video shaking hands with David (yeah right ) The police are geeting a lot more pressure on them now and I honestly think Prayuth no a lot more than we are hearing i am sure he would have an undercover investigation ongoing. The Leg chains have been removed from the suspects that is telling something . There are too doubts about the DNA especially after the comedy show the other day . Why wont the police let the UK carry out all DNA testing on all eveidence . This Is not going to end nice for the a lot of police involve in this investigation. Also when will the UK police confirm that they were happy with the way Thai Police investigation was done and that they would have done it the same way ? The UK police will not say a word until their official inquiry begins in January. By then the suspects will still not be in court. If there is a lot of doubt on the other side of the world, then this is going to end up hard core diplomatic, because the British public and the media will make sure of it. I can see it pretty much hurting Thailand a hell of a lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Briggsy Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 In order to predict the outcome of this case, simply look to the Kirsty Jones rape and murder in Chiang Mai and extrapolate. You will then see the police game plan. Keep kicking it down the road until the case becomes history and other events and news take the headlines. Kirsty Jones was murdered 14 years ago. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Some brave people in the NHRC!! Wonder if the Chief of Police are going jail them for 5 years as well?? Together with all the social media posters!! They are going to build new jails!! Maybe they'll get sent to Koh Tao as punishment Would they survive a night in kt? seems thats the question each person should ask themselves before they sentence themselves there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grumbleweed Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 ""By law, we can lodge a complaint with police against those who ignore our summons," Niran said. So they are going to lodge a complaint against the police..... with the police I bet they're really crapping themselves 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiamaster Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Csi la today noted that the 2 Burmese lads have always worn wristbands, and even had them on after being arrested. Yet if the person running around in the CCTV video was one of them where were the wristbands? That took some time before this overrated keyboard investigator noticed this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Thank goodness reasonable and decent Thais are getting invovled. Obviously, the RTP did not expect such an outcry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokheat Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 dna of an ostrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skildpadden Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 They were originally arrested for illegal entry - so they will face charges no matter what - so there is still ~a month + some days they can be detained legally without prosecuting - but looking at how the case has gone, I'm placing my bets on mistrial/deportation. Yes I believe they will be convicted of something, as the police has lost so much face already that they need to put something on these poor guys. However, I bet they are more than happy to get deported out of this place. probably the best outcome possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manbing Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Listen guys give them a break. How can they possibly manage to successfully fit up these boys with NCHR interfering and damaging their credibility. Let the trial be concluded, followed by fast execution, then as pertinent questions related to actual guilt later. We all know how it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Well according to the chief of police at the DNA test for Nomsod apparrently the investigation is complete. But now it is conveniently "ongoing". What is worse than a shambles? Because this is exactly that :/ According to Mr. Jaturong, there still is some investigation to be done: "Thai journalist, Mr. Jaturong, who covered this case went to market today. One of the vendor asked him, "Did Nomsod do it?". Mr. Jaturong said "I don't know. According to the police, Nomsod didn't do it." The vendor " How could police rely only on DNA evidence? The police should have done more investigation to find out that Nomsod was in Bangkok on that night. For example, they should check if Nomsod was at his dormitory at night. The police should check CCTV from Nomsod's university. The police should interview Nomsod teachers and friends. How about Nomsod's phone records? They should be able to locate him on the night of murder according to cellphone records. How come Nomsod didn't do the same right after the murder of Hannah and David? Nomsod's dad told the media that he could not contact Nomsod for several months." The question is, will they complete the investigation? Edited November 4, 2014 by fxe1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakajima Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Some brave people in the NHRC!! Wonder if the Chief of Police are going jail them for 5 years as well?? Together with all the social media posters!! They are going to build new jails!! The facebook page that criticize police for the investigation had 1.3M posts/shares/likes this week only, I don't see police starting a million case, it's all just talking as usual, they are not going to jail anyone for 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerakiss Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 >According to Niran, the NHRC summoned police to explain the allegation at a hearing today, but police refused on the grounds that any testimony given to the rights commission may affect the ongoing murder investigation<quote More police BS!! Hold the hearing behind closed doors!! So far all the leaks in this case have come from the police!! The police haver repeatedly said that the case is complete/perfect. At the time of nomsod's DNA test they stated that the test would not form part of the investigation, because that was "complete". Now they say it is ongoing. I say what I have said before, I have no idea if the Burmese are guilty or not, but either way the police have been disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Carrerakiss Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 Csi la today noted that the 2 Burmese lads have always worn wristbands, and even had them on after being arrested. Yet if the person running around in the CCTV video was one of them where were the wristbands? That took some time before this overrated keyboard investigator noticed this.... An interesting point though. When did you notice it btw? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norvid Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Terrible murder and bizarre/queer case; Unbelievable police search for suspects. Plenty of strange stories, which doesn't hold and plenty of police statements that are fantasies, or whatever you want to call them. Playing guitars and singing songs. Hardly this is a preparation for a murder. Unless we are dealing with psychopaths, which is unlikely the case. Test again DNA under supervision of English team and compare it then with the English samples. This Thai's police process is ridicules, unreliable, lacks of logic and straightforwardness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sz1a Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 "...police refused on the grounds that any testimony given to the rights commission may affect the ongoing murder investigation." Although unintentional on part of the police, this statement confirms how rudimentary their investigation was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 ....'may affect the case'.....??? ...yeah, like 'the case may be dropped'........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Acharn Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 For the first time ever the RTP are being challenced, first by social media and now by NHCR. Hope their house of cards will come tumbeling down!! If I am enjoying it?? You bet, every second of it!! I'm glad you're enjoying it, but this isn't the first or only time. I've been here a long time and the events tend to kind of blur together, but there was a murder of a farang woman in Chiang Mai several years ago, and the policeman who shot the tourist couple up there. The whole case of the stolen Saudi Jewels came up several times with accusations of police cover-up. There was even a claim there that a photo of the wife of a police general at some society ball showed her wearing one of the necklaces. Murder of environmentalists. Disappearance of a labor organizer (high ranking police officer claimed he knew where the guy was, and that he was with a woman; the body has still never been found).There have been others that don't stick in my memory, but why do you think the outcries of a police frame-up came so quickly? It was because this is not an unusual occurrence. The usual tactic is to just stall until everybody loses interest or has to go to work or something. In this case they may have run into groups that will not give up so easily. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan michaud Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Well according to the chief of police at the DNA test for Nomsod apparrently the investigation is complete. But now it is conveniently "ongoing". What is worse than a shambles? Because this is exactly that :/ Shambles, my thesaurus suggests; mess; muddle; hash; fiasco; disaster, I would also add debacle and farce. I suggest adding an expletive before any of those choices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler19491 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The plot thickens .... Maybe a movie in the future ? It'll have to be a comedy. Wonder if they can get Adam Sandler or Will Ferrell to play the Chief of Police? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for real Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The crime should have been given to Police General Seripisut to handle. The forensics to Porntip. The amount of evidence left behind would have meant a speedy,correct outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Csi la today noted that the 2 Burmese lads have always worn wristbands, and even had them on after being arrested. Yet if the person running around in the CCTV video was one of them where were the wristbands? Indeed. But JD and JTJ will have you believe that you have to be a homicide detective to understand this - just like you have to be a forensic pathologist to know that the wounds on the male victim were not from a hoe. Right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Some brave people in the NHRC!! Wonder if the Chief of Police are going jail them for 5 years as well?? Together with all the social media posters!! They are going to build new jails!! The facebook page that criticize police for the investigation had 1.3M posts/shares/likes this week only, I don't see police starting a million case, it's all just talking as usual, they are not going to jail anyone for 5 years. The police don't need to jail many. A few clear cut violations of the CCA and a few more investigations, followed by some defamation cases filed against people by the headman and his family is all that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The crime should have been given to Police General Seripisut to handle. The forensics to Porntip. The amount of evidence left behind would have meant a speedy,correct outcome. Why would Khunying Pornthip be acceptable? Think GT200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HUH Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 Some brave people in the NHRC!! Wonder if the Chief of Police are going jail them for 5 years as well?? Together with all the social media posters!! They are going to build new jails!! The facebook page that criticize police for the investigation had 1.3M posts/shares/likes this week only, I don't see police starting a million case, it's all just talking as usual, they are not going to jail anyone for 5 years. The police don't need to jail many. A few clear cut violations of the CCA and a few more investigations, followed by some defamation cases filed against people by the headman and his family is all that is needed. The RTP carrying out investigations Please not again I hope they actually have the wisdom to step back and realize the implications of this. The threats of criminal lawsuits by the RTP have already been reported internationally. If they were to be so hypocritical as to actually try and sue people for criticizing the way the investigation (the perfect case) has been run then the whole world will laugh more, but in reality it will be another very sad day for Thailand. If the head man of Koh Tao tries to bring criminal defamation suits against people he will also create the final nail for the coffin that awaits Koh Tao 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I suggest you read the CCA and defamation laws in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HUH Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 I suggest you read the CCA and defamation laws in Thailand I'm aware of the draconian CCA although not in detail, that does not change what my post said however about the consequences of it should they be stupid enough to use them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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