liddelljohn Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Applied for new Non IMM visa after 2 weeks it did not come back ,, should be 4 days max tried phoning embassy 6 times but they never answer ,, 2 trips each way 150miles to embassy and all they will admit is they have received my passport and documents and fee which they cashed , and No they have not sent back the passport yet as they dont know where it is ??????? so its not lost in the post problem is they will not accept responsibility or seem very worried about it , when i contacted UK passport office and London police I have been told that thsi is not uncommon recently !!!!! they are also angry and will look into it . I am now very worried as i am due to return to Far east next week also its a security risk and not very proffessional by the Thai embassy attitude . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crudski Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 What do you do now?Apply for new passport?What did the police say they can do about it?I need to send away for mine this week and i believe only London can give you non O visas now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) I would write an urgent registered letter, give them time until the very same day of receipt, then file a police report with direct blame on them, obtain a new urgent passport and if time allows obtain the visa in person at another consulate on the same day. Save all receipts and when you return make a claim https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/overview Edited November 4, 2014 by paz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythmworx Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I would go to the passport office get a new passport fast tracked and visit the embassy in person to get your stamp. Otherwise you wont be going to the far east next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 ...What did the police say they can do about it?... Diplomatic immunity, but the police should at least give a copy of the report of the loss of the passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythmworx Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I would also notify the MI5 don't expect the police will do it they don't care, Some terrorist is now holding your passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I always take my passport, things can go wrong and will sometimes go wrong, I believe Birminham are now doing non'o's on the same day, hull are doing the next day but will take details by email to save one trip. same day passport service is good, i rang on a Monday and had an appointment the following day at 8.30am, passport in hand at 12.30. that was Peterborough, get a jumbo passport works out better value. about £130. Thinking further as yours is lost maybe they will not issue same day. all the best i hope it turns up in the mean time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythmworx Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Either way post #6 was read by the agency shortly after I posted it, expect your passport and yourself to be on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 You are learning that Thainess, especially when it comes to accepting responsibility and losing face, even applies overseas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 ...What did the police say they can do about it?... Diplomatic immunity, but the police should at least give a copy of the report of the loss of the passport. Any small claims court action, referred to in post #4, would presumably prove unsuccessful for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFC Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Sorry to hear about your situation. Hope you can get a fast track passport in London. If you have a police report and its happening often you should be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Actually, the embassy has civil liability and must pay its bills. There is no immunity from that. It is the enforcement of paying bills that is difficult as many measures that normally can be taken are not possible against a diplomatic mission. You can't for instance enter the premisses and confiscate things for selling them to pay the bill. Same goes for traffic tickets, they can and are issued against diplomats. But you can't force them to pay. So in such cases the ambassodor is informed and sometimes the foreign minister of the country in question. Sometimes that is succesful, many times not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 They are supposed to send it back to you via Specail Delivery so must have a tracking number. Specail delivery also comes with 100 insurance against loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Any small claims court action, referred to in post #4, would presumably prove unsuccessful for the same reason. You're very off track, diplomatic immunity doesn't apply to damages and crimes done by clerks. It also has limitations even for true diplomatic personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 First basic question - do you have a scanned copy of the old passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddelljohn Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Situation has now been solved .. my missing passport has been found and should be back to me soon via registered post with requested visa as well I received a call from Thai emabassy consolar section to confirm that today,, much apology from the lady calling seems they were chivvied with some help from British authorities putting pressure on someone in Thai embassy ,, what exactly happened was described as adminstrative error???? als well anyway what a relief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 A good outcome for you, and no more sweating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 You are learning that Thainess, especially when it comes to accepting responsibility and losing face, even applies overseas when my wife applied for a new passport at [london] they didnt lose it,but put somebody else's photo in the new one. not possible was the reply from the embassy,then they said she will have to pay again.that was until mr.john eyle's the thai consulate in cardiff told them NO she wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 You are learning that Thainess, especially when it comes to accepting responsibility and losing face, even applies overseas when my wife applied for a new passport at [london] they didnt lose it,but put somebody else's photo in the new one. not possible was the reply from the embassy,then they said she will have to pay again.that was until mr.john eyle's the thai consulate in cardiff told them NO she wont. And to redress the balance, the British Embassy here in Bangkok put completely the wrong address for me in an income confirmation letter they issued to me a number of years ago - despite the fact that I had clearly stated the address to be entered in my letter to them! So we are equally talking about Britishness as well as Thainess, I think!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhamBam Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Glad you got it sorted. Must have been a mite stressful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddelljohn Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 Next time i will go in person to the Birmingham consolate and do it in person with a british local comsol and not by post even if it means an overnight trip of 250miles the london thai run embassy is a shambles ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Contact Commonwealth Ombudsman, they would have the authority or give you the correct advice on who to contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Contact Commonwealth Ombudsman, they would have the authority or give you the correct advice on who to contact The "what" ? read in full, OP has found passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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