Thai student 'shot by those who killed her dad'

[Bluespunk]

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Insurgents? What does that mean? The people from the religion of Compassion, Peace and Tolerance; the same ones who shoot young girls in Afghanistan? or ... are they political dissidents?

AND ,,, Why would the "people of interest" in the 2006 murder of the girl's father continue to be "people of interest" in 2014? What does that mean?

Discussions like this one always end up going on about religion, but this is mostly a territorial dispute and one where both sides of the dispute have some valid points.

You are of course having a go at Muslims and the islamic faith, but when you do that just be aware that pro-rata Muslims are statistically no more likely to be extremists (terrorists, insurgents, freedom fighters, resistance or whatever you want to call them) than than many other religions.

By far the vast majority of people in the world are peaceful, and Muslims are no different to the majority of people in the world. The number of Muslims who support violence is very small indeed. Remember it's minority groups and governments that cause the worlds problems, not the people.

For the record I'm not a Muslim myself, but I'm sick of the Islamophobia that is propagated by the mass media.

Well said . However

I lived (with residence and work permit) in Iran, Morocco and Malaysia, plus I spent 15 years in and out of Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar and the UAE for my business. I have met the good, the hypocrites, and those who hate non believers. There are some Muslims who are dear to me and some I really hate.

So I am not an Islam basher. I just think it is time to come out of denial.

I saw French speaking North Africans going in and out of non tourist areas in Malaysia, a country where where arranged marriages and FGM are practiced but officially denied. Islamist have a stronghold in many rural parts of Malaysia. Thats a fact. A Turkish friend (an Imam and a good man) confirmed all of this on his visit.

Islamist are people who believe Islam should be politicized and Sharia Law should be implemented world-wide

It is estimated 17-23 million Muslims are Islamist (a minority but still a lot of people)

Islamophobia. A phobia is an irrational fear.

- Islamist killed almost 3,000 people on 9/11 in the USA.

- Four Islamists detonated four bombsLondon Underground trains across the city and, later, a fourth on a double-decker killing 52 civilians and over 700 more were injured.

- The Madrid train bombings killed 191 people and injured 1,800 people.

- Islamist (Taliban) stopped a school van and shot a 14 year old girl, Malala, in the head.

- ISIS is sweeping through Iraq and Syria with vicious massacres, beheading, and rape as well as sex slavery of women who do not follow Sunni doctrine s they interpret it. Many are expats who will return to their homeland.

- Pakistan are intolerant of Christians and recently burned two Christians alive.

- Nigeria's Boco Haram .... murder, rape and slavery.

I can go on and on with examples but it's in the news.

Phobia? Not likely. Islamic fundamentalists (Islamist) are a Clear and Present Danger everywhere in the world. They do not respect the life of non-believers and as far as this news story goes... the murderers of this young girl are fighting a Jihad or they are psychopaths or both. To deny this is on our border is like inviting a vampire into your house.

Nope. Islamaphobic is an irrational hatred and fear of Islam rather than Islamic terrorist scum.

Hate the terrorists by all means, I'm with you there but to hate all Muslims because of them is islamaphobic, prejudicial bigotry.

Stupid as well.

Edited November 7, 2014 by Bluespunk

[northernjohn]

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Insurgents? What does that mean? The people from the religion of Compassion, Peace and Tolerance; the same ones who shoot young girls in Afghanistan? or ... are they political dissidents?

AND ,,, Why would the "people of interest" in the 2006 murder of the girl's father continue to be "people of interest" in 2014? What does that mean?

Discussions like this one always end up going on about religion, but this is mostly a territorial dispute and one where both sides of the dispute have some valid points.

You are of course having a go at Muslims and the islamic faith, but when you do that just be aware that pro-rata Muslims are statistically no more likely to be extremists (terrorists, insurgents, freedom fighters, resistance or whatever you want to call them) than than many other religions.

By far the vast majority of people in the world are peaceful, and Muslims are no different to the majority of people in the world. The number of Muslims who support violence is very small indeed. Remember it's minority groups and governments that cause the worlds problems, not the people.

For the record I'm not a Muslim myself, but I'm sick of the Islamophobia that is propagated by the mass media.

Well said . However

I lived (with residence and work permit) in Iran, Morocco and Malaysia, plus I spent 15 years in and out of Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar and the UAE for my business. I have met the good, the hypocrites, and those who hate non believers. There are some Muslims who are dear to me and some I really hate.

So I am not an Islam basher. I just think it is time to come out of denial.

I saw French speaking North Africans going in and out of non tourist areas in Malaysia, a country where where arranged marriages and FGM are practiced but officially denied. Islamist have a stronghold in many rural parts of Malaysia. Thats a fact. A Turkish friend (an Imam and a good man) confirmed all of this on his visit.

Islamist are people who believe Islam should be politicized and Sharia Law should be implemented world-wide

It is estimated 17-23 million Muslims are Islamist (a minority but still a lot of people)

Islamophobia. A phobia is an irrational fear.

- Islamist killed almost 3,000 people on 9/11 in the USA.

- Four Islamists detonated four bombsLondon Underground trains across the city and, later, a fourth on a double-decker killing 52 civilians and over 700 more were injured.

- The Madrid train bombings killed 191 people and injured 1,800 people.

- Islamist (Taliban) stopped a school van and shot a 14 year old girl, Malala, in the head.

- ISIS is sweeping through Iraq and Syria with vicious massacres, beheading, and rape as well as sex slavery of women who do not follow Sunni doctrine s they interpret it. Many are expats who will return to their homeland.

- Pakistan are intolerant of Christians and recently burned two Christians alive.

- Nigeria's Boco Haram .... murder, rape and slavery.

I can go on and on with examples but it's in the news.

Phobia? Not likely. Islamic fundamentalists (Islamist) are a Clear and Present Danger everywhere in the world. They do not respect the life of non-believers and as far as this news story goes... the murderers of this young girl are fighting a Jihad or they are psychopaths or both. To deny this is on our border is like inviting a vampire into your house.

Nope. Islamaphobic is an irrational hatred and fear of Islam rather than Islamic terrorist scum.

Hate the terrorists by all means, I'm with you there but to hate all Muslims because of them is islamaphobic, prejudicial bigotry.

Stupid as well.

What you say is true. How ever to trust them is not a wise thing to do. How do you know the difference. To they have signs around their neck saying extremists. How do you spot the ones who never do any thing the extremists but send them money. The extremists are far more than just the ones with the guns and bombs they are the people who support them.

Reminds me of a time I was in Bali and mentioned that I was closed minded when it came to Islam. A friend living there gave me the song and dance about having good friends and what not. Next week I mentioned to him I was going to go to Java the next time I came back to Bali. He immediately warned me to bee careful there I asked him why and he told me they were Muslim there. Islamic terrorism is a world wide threat. Name me one other religion that is guilty of that.

Fear the terrorists is right but do not trust the ones who silently back them up. Islamic beliefs are more than terrorism what about the way they treat their women? Honor Killings are an excepted way of life in the Islamic world. Say some thing anti Islamic and recieve death threats. How about the lady politician in Holland that was receiving death threats for nor pushing for the Islamic way of life.

When I hear of Islamic groups rising up and actively seeking out the terrorists and their supporters not trying to change the world to their Sharia law way of life not destroying social support systems (check Denmark) in fact actively trying to make the world a better place to live I will rethink my position on them. Talk is cheap but their action is drowning it out.

[northernjohn]

Nostalgia – Imagine if we had the psycho-babble labels during the 1980-81 IRA bombings in London, (they were close to my office). How about Eire-o-phobia. Or when ETA bombed one of my favorite restaurants just outside Madrid. Phobia-del-ETA.

You are taking a pea shooter to a gun fight. Just on the same planet no other similarities.