NRC President confident reforms will be accomplished within expected time frame

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NRC President confident reforms will be accomplished within expected time frame

BANGKOK, 10 November 2014 (NNT) - The President of the National Reform Council is confident all reform plans will be accomplished within the expected time frame.

NRC President Tienchay Kiranant said on Sunday that even though council members appeared to have different points of view, that should not be any hindrance to the reform process.

Mr. Tienchay also said that in order to implement all reforms, all ideas will be streamlined and put into action through restructuring under the guidance of the interim Constitution.

He is confident that the NRC will accomplish its reform mission within one year after he has seen the spirit of collaboration among all fellow members.

The NRC President went on to say that the public is also a key element to achieving the goals of reforms, so the council has set up a committee to collect information from people on the streets to be input into the reform process.


-- NNT 2014-11-10

[Boxclever]

I wish they'd stop calling them reforms and call it what it is..."Peoples human rights suppression No. 129" or something like that

[SABloke]

And the expected time frame is???

[JOC]

<Mr. Tienchay also said that in order to implement all reforms, all ideas will be streamlined and put into action through restructuring under the guidance of the interim Constitution> quote

Or in other words: Our way or the highway!!

[JOC]

And the expected time frame is???

Anything between a decade and a century!!

[ginjag]

And the expected time frame is???

Anything between a decade and a century!!

To compare, only 1 government back, what reforms were made for the betterment of Thais, the only reforms were self benefit.

Now all the funnies about any being undertaken now.

[NongKhaiKid]

Within time frame will work when it's announced as consultation is limited to a chosen few, everyone will agree with everything and the reforms pass.

Cue another " Happiness Association ' poll that confirms the ' public ' are in agreement and in the background is Ken Dodd's song " Happiness, Happiness '.

How can anyone disagree ?

Edited November 10, 2014 by NongKhaiKid

[jaltsc]

"Mr. Tienchay also said that in order to implement all reforms, all ideas will be streamlined and put into action through restructuring under the guidance of the interim Constitution...He is confident that the NRC will accomplish its reform mission within one year after he has seen the spirit of collaboration among all fellow members."

If it's an interim Constitution, then it isn't permanent . Anything accomplished (I hate using that word in regard to any actions by the government du jour) can be overturned under the next constitution. Basically it's just which group gets screwed under this administration and which group gets screwed under the next regime. If you wait long enough, it will be you.

Edited November 10, 2014 by jaltsc

[djjamie]

Under the military council's road map toward democracy, a new constitution must be in place by October next year. During this period, the NRC is required to draw up guidelines and proposals for reform in 11 areas. If the reforms are not completed the next government will take over.

Now if one can believe the PTP's four promises to pay the farmers BEFORE the PDRC started protesting without questioning the PTP and believe the PTP promise that the amnesty WILL bring reconciliation without questioning the PTP (even though both were lies) then to believe the NRC to complete reforms by October next year will be a walk in the park for the bitter and twisted 7% supporters and the Junta with the backing of the majority (not a 7% majority like the hardcore red shirts or the 43% majority like the 2011 election results) we will see a better and brighter and PEACEFUL Thailand.

I for one hope to see this completed in the timeframe for the betterment of Thai society and just as I did not offer sarcasm or condescension when the PTP promised the above I will save it however for if they fail which, mark my words, I certainly did for the PTP when they broke there promise. Again because they failed Thai society.

Seems some follow the PTP mindset and forget about the betterment of society and only give agenda driven sarcastic remarks. Why not? It is all they have left.

[Fat Haggis]

What % of Muslims down South think you're talking out of your Hoop Jamie ?

[chainarong]

I am pretty sure that the time frame set Oct 2015 will be met, what it looks like and whether ordinary Thai's will benefit , that's another topic, I would anticipate an extension to the current junta mandate if not finished ,P.M. Prayth will not go to the people until there is stable ground for reforms to stand on.

Edited November 10, 2014 by chainarong

[Thailand]

What % of Muslims down South think you're talking out of your Hoop Jamie ?

And he made the post with only 7 mentions of PTP and as requested by the establishment no mention of Thaksin.

[jpeg]

Reform this reform that. Good grief what on earth are these 'reforms'? The BP ran a piece today with the NLA asking for input from 'the people'. Bearing in mind 'the people' have been disallowed from even talking about politics, it shows this is more mere motor mouthing and they haven't a bloody clue.

P'raps their resident cheerleader can enlighten the rest of us as to just ONE proposed 'Reform'

[ginjag]

Within time frame will work when it's announced as consultation is limited to a chosen few, everyone will agree with everything and the reforms pass.

Cue another " Happiness Association ' poll that confirms the ' public ' are in agreement and in the background is Ken Dodd's song " Happiness, Happiness '.

How can anyone disagree ?

Ha ha and the diddy men from the jam butty mines were thrown out of a lousy government.-----from NUTTY ash. 55555555555

[ginjag]

And the expected time frame is???

Anything between a decade and a century!!

3 damn years were wasted with the PTP, and what reforms did they see through ??

[sjaak327]

Under the military council's road map toward democracy, a new constitution must be in place by October next year. During this period, the NRC is required to draw up guidelines and proposals for reform in 11 areas. If the reforms are not completed the next government will take over.

Now if one can believe the PTP's four promises to pay the farmers BEFORE the PDRC started protesting without questioning the PTP and believe the PTP promise that the amnesty WILL bring reconciliation without questioning the PTP (even though both were lies) then to believe the NRC to complete reforms by October next year will be a walk in the park for the bitter and twisted 7% supporters and the Junta with the backing of the majority (not a 7% majority like the hardcore red shirts or the 43% majority like the 2011 election results) we will see a better and brighter and PEACEFUL Thailand.

I for one hope to see this completed in the timeframe for the betterment of Thai society and just as I did not offer sarcasm or condescension when the PTP promised the above I will save it however for if they fail which, mark my words, I certainly did for the PTP when they broke there promise. Again because they failed Thai society.

Seems some follow the PTP mindset and forget about the betterment of society and only give agenda driven sarcastic remarks. Why not? It is all they have left.

I am dying to find out how you can claim the majority of the Thai electorate supports the current government, as far as I know they grabbed power by force and not by a general election.

As to mentioning election results of 2011, PT did receive 48.4% of the popular vote and together with the coalition partners that were part of Yingluck's government, that government had the backing of over 53% of the popular vote and 300 of 500 seats in parliament, both were clearly a majority. The current junta has not received a single vote. Better not play the support card, as PT and their previous iterations have consistenty shown to have massive backing amongst the electorate, end of story.

As to the support the junta does have, we simply cannot possibly asses, as they are not letting the Thai electorate have a say in who should lead their country. They are currently completely irrelevant. A true democrat should scream bloody murder at this reality.

Edited November 10, 2014 by sjaak327

[Fat Haggis]

Jamie isn't a true democrat so he's not crying anything apart from wolf on The odd occasion

[rubl]

And the expected time frame is???

Anything between a decade and a century!!

Since Thailand sometimes seems stuck in the (early) 20th century a decade more or less shouldn't really matter

[rubl]

Under the military council's road map toward democracy, a new constitution must be in place by October next year. During this period, the NRC is required to draw up guidelines and proposals for reform in 11 areas. If the reforms are not completed the next government will take over.

Now if one can believe the PTP's four promises to pay the farmers BEFORE the PDRC started protesting without questioning the PTP and believe the PTP promise that the amnesty WILL bring reconciliation without questioning the PTP (even though both were lies) then to believe the NRC to complete reforms by October next year will be a walk in the park for the bitter and twisted 7% supporters and the Junta with the backing of the majority (not a 7% majority like the hardcore red shirts or the 43% majority like the 2011 election results) we will see a better and brighter and PEACEFUL Thailand.

I for one hope to see this completed in the timeframe for the betterment of Thai society and just as I did not offer sarcasm or condescension when the PTP promised the above I will save it however for if they fail which, mark my words, I certainly did for the PTP when they broke there promise. Again because they failed Thai society.

Seems some follow the PTP mindset and forget about the betterment of society and only give agenda driven sarcastic remarks. Why not? It is all they have left.

I am dying to find out how you can claim the majority of the Thai electorate supports the current government, as far as I know they grabbed power by force and not by a general election.

As to mentioning election results of 2011, PT did receive 48.4% of the popular vote and together with the coalition partners that were part of Yingluck's government, that government had the backing of over 53% of the popular vote and 300 of 500 seats in parliament, both were clearly a majority. The current junta has not received a single vote. Better not play the support card, as PT and their previous iterations have consistenty shown to have massive backing amongst the electorate, end of story.

As to the support the junta does have, we simply cannot possibly asses, as they are not letting the Thai electorate have a say in who should lead their country. They are currently completely irrelevant. A true democrat should scream bloody murder at this reality.

Before you die maybe read the topic with "POLL: Most Thai support NCPO" ?

BTW I think a true democrat would scream "bloody murder" with a part of the population wanting to have a billionair who has a reputation of taking care of himself. A criminal fugitive who controlled both the Yingluck government, his Pheu Thai party and directed what they were supposed to do. The January 2013 New York Times article would turn all true democrats away from Thaksin. IMHO

[metisdead]

Nonsense posts and replies have been removed.

[sjaak327]

Under the military council's road map toward democracy, a new constitution must be in place by October next year. During this period, the NRC is required to draw up guidelines and proposals for reform in 11 areas. If the reforms are not completed the next government will take over.

Now if one can believe the PTP's four promises to pay the farmers BEFORE the PDRC started protesting without questioning the PTP and believe the PTP promise that the amnesty WILL bring reconciliation without questioning the PTP (even though both were lies) then to believe the NRC to complete reforms by October next year will be a walk in the park for the bitter and twisted 7% supporters and the Junta with the backing of the majority (not a 7% majority like the hardcore red shirts or the 43% majority like the 2011 election results) we will see a better and brighter and PEACEFUL Thailand.

I for one hope to see this completed in the timeframe for the betterment of Thai society and just as I did not offer sarcasm or condescension when the PTP promised the above I will save it however for if they fail which, mark my words, I certainly did for the PTP when they broke there promise. Again because they failed Thai society.

Seems some follow the PTP mindset and forget about the betterment of society and only give agenda driven sarcastic remarks. Why not? It is all they have left.

I am dying to find out how you can claim the majority of the Thai electorate supports the current government, as far as I know they grabbed power by force and not by a general election.

As to mentioning election results of 2011, PT did receive 48.4% of the popular vote and together with the coalition partners that were part of Yingluck's government, that government had the backing of over 53% of the popular vote and 300 of 500 seats in parliament, both were clearly a majority. The current junta has not received a single vote. Better not play the support card, as PT and their previous iterations have consistenty shown to have massive backing amongst the electorate, end of story.

As to the support the junta does have, we simply cannot possibly asses, as they are not letting the Thai electorate have a say in who should lead their country. They are currently completely irrelevant. A true democrat should scream bloody murder at this reality.

Before you die maybe read the topic with "POLL: Most Thai support NCPO" ?

BTW I think a true democrat would scream "bloody murder" with a part of the population wanting to have a billionair who has a reputation of taking care of himself. A criminal fugitive who controlled both the Yingluck government, his Pheu Thai party and directed what they were supposed to do. The January 2013 New York Times article would turn all true democrats away from Thaksin. IMHO

According to the life expectancy of a Dutch male, I have a whopping 39 years to read it, however I did read it,

Actually I even posted on that very thread, which makes me wonder if you read the thread carefully, or only the posts you happen to agree with.

As to the billionaire you are referring to, it's not like Yingluck made her ties and alliance with this particular "criminal" a secret !

Anyway, you probably don't have the slightest clue how opinion poles are conducted and when such a pole has even a remote chance of credibility. Hint, a poll conducted on 626 community leaders isn't. Not only is the number of people polled uncredible, the make off of the people polled isn't either.

Of course I support my argument with real elections in which over 27 million members of the Thai electorate have casts their votes, yet you return with 626 community leaders being polled by the Junta.

Maybe to remain at least a bit credible, you should refrain from even mentioning this opinion pole ? At the end of the day opinion poles don't settle the balance of power, elections do, so you frankly have absolutely nothing to support your silly argument.

Speaking of billionaires, it seems the dear leader has an accummalated wealth way far above his yearly salary, but I suppose corruption isn't the reason right ? Or maybe he's been a general for 600 years or so.

Silly uncle rubl...

Edit to add: I don't support Thaksin, and I believe he is corrupt to the core. However there is very strong evidence to suggest he and his proxies have massive electoral support. As a true democrat I cannot and should not ignore this. Any country and electorate gets the government they deserve.

I also have no doubts that the competition is equally corrupt to the core, evidence of this is hardly scarce.

Edited November 10, 2014 by sjaak327

[fobuff]

crapola

[blaze]

Under the military council's road map toward democracy, a new constitution must be in place by October next year. During this period, the NRC is required to draw up guidelines and proposals for reform in 11 areas. If the reforms are not completed the next government will take over.

Now if one can believe the PTP's four promises to pay the farmers BEFORE the PDRC started protesting without questioning the PTP and believe the PTP promise that the amnesty WILL bring reconciliation without questioning the PTP (even though both were lies) then to believe the NRC to complete reforms by October next year will be a walk in the park for the bitter and twisted 7% supporters and the Junta with the backing of the majority (not a 7% majority like the hardcore red shirts or the 43% majority like the 2011 election results) we will see a better and brighter and PEACEFUL Thailand.

I for one hope to see this completed in the timeframe for the betterment of Thai society and just as I did not offer sarcasm or condescension when the PTP promised the above I will save it however for if they fail which, mark my words, I certainly did for the PTP when they broke there promise. Again because they failed Thai society.

Seems some follow the PTP mindset and forget about the betterment of society and only give agenda driven sarcastic remarks. Why not? It is all they have left.

I am dying to find out how you can claim the majority of the Thai electorate supports the current government, as far as I know they grabbed power by force and not by a general election.

As to mentioning election results of 2011, PT did receive 48.4% of the popular vote and together with the coalition partners that were part of Yingluck's government, that government had the backing of over 53% of the popular vote and 300 of 500 seats in parliament, both were clearly a majority. The current junta has not received a single vote. Better not play the support card, as PT and their previous iterations have consistenty shown to have massive backing amongst the electorate, end of story.

As to the support the junta does have, we simply cannot possibly asses, as they are not letting the Thai electorate have a say in who should lead their country. They are currently completely irrelevant. A true democrat should scream bloody murder at this reality.

Before you die maybe read the topic with "POLL: Most Thai support NCPO" ?

BTW I think a true democrat would scream "bloody murder" with a part of the population wanting to have a billionair who has a reputation of taking care of himself. A criminal fugitive who controlled both the Yingluck government, his Pheu Thai party and directed what they were supposed to do. The January 2013 New York Times article would turn all true democrats away from Thaksin. IMHO

You have lost it-- you were ok before---well- desperation and drvie the mind into stange places.

Edited November 10, 2014 by blaze

[marcusd]

And the expected time frame is???

Anything between a decade and a century!!

To compare, only 1 government back, what reforms were made for the betterment of Thais, the only reforms were self benefit.

Now all the funnies about any being undertaken now.

I for one supported this coup.

I for one am disillusioned.

I see lots of hot air. Lot of garbage spewed and nothing really changing for the ordinary people or business.

The plot is again lost

[marcusd]

Under the military council's road map toward democracy, a new constitution must be in place by October next year. During this period, the NRC is required to draw up guidelines and proposals for reform in 11 areas. If the reforms are not completed the next government will take over.

Now if one can believe the PTP's four promises to pay the farmers BEFORE the PDRC started protesting without questioning the PTP and believe the PTP promise that the amnesty WILL bring reconciliation without questioning the PTP (even though both were lies) then to believe the NRC to complete reforms by October next year will be a walk in the park for the bitter and twisted 7% supporters and the Junta with the backing of the majority (not a 7% majority like the hardcore red shirts or the 43% majority like the 2011 election results) we will see a better and brighter and PEACEFUL Thailand.

I for one hope to see this completed in the timeframe for the betterment of Thai society and just as I did not offer sarcasm or condescension when the PTP promised the above I will save it however for if they fail which, mark my words, I certainly did for the PTP when they broke there promise. Again because they failed Thai society.

Seems some follow the PTP mindset and forget about the betterment of society and only give agenda driven sarcastic remarks. Why not? It is all they have left.

DJ...give up. It's all hot air.

Look at the murder investigations? Cover up like yingluck.

Look at how the pander to Chinese and screw the Japanese and Europeans.

Not one single business advancement for foreign enterprises which account for over 80% of the Thai economy.

All talk of we will we will and nothing at all.

Give up

[recycled]

How in the world can you put a bunch of intellectually challenged people in the same room and expect intelligent results. They are mad I tell you, bloody mad.

[surangw]

if he does show signs of success, he will probably be "promoted" out of his controlling position

[bangrak]

...And when time gets tight, we will discard all the reforms there's not enough time left to achieve. Which 'reforms' are the true Thai people still, vaguely, hoping for anyway, today, the real 'changes' have visibly already to be forgotten about...? Different vessels, same wine? 2006 revisited? I hope not, but to be true...

[Fatty123]

Under the military council's road map toward democracy, a new constitution must be in place by October next year. During this period, the NRC is required to draw up guidelines and proposals for reform in 11 areas. If the reforms are not completed the next government will take over.

Now if one can believe the PTP's four promises to pay the farmers BEFORE the PDRC started protesting without questioning the PTP and believe the PTP promise that the amnesty WILL bring reconciliation without questioning the PTP (even though both were lies) then to believe the NRC to complete reforms by October next year will be a walk in the park for the bitter and twisted 7% supporters and the Junta with the backing of the majority (not a 7% majority like the hardcore red shirts or the 43% majority like the 2011 election results) we will see a better and brighter and PEACEFUL Thailand.

I for one hope to see this completed in the timeframe for the betterment of Thai society and just as I did not offer sarcasm or condescension when the PTP promised the above I will save it however for if they fail which, mark my words, I certainly did for the PTP when they broke there promise. Again because they failed Thai society.

Seems some follow the PTP mindset and forget about the betterment of society and only give agenda driven sarcastic remarks. Why not? It is all they have left.

I am dying to find out how you can claim the majority of the Thai electorate supports the current government, as far as I know they grabbed power by force and not by a general election.

As to mentioning election results of 2011, PT did receive 48.4% of the popular vote and together with the coalition partners that were part of Yingluck's government, that government had the backing of over 53% of the popular vote and 300 of 500 seats in parliament, both were clearly a majority. The current junta has not received a single vote. Better not play the support card, as PT and their previous iterations have consistenty shown to have massive backing amongst the electorate, end of story.

As to the support the junta does have, we simply cannot possibly asses, as they are not letting the Thai electorate have a say in who should lead their country. They are currently completely irrelevant. A true democrat should scream bloody murder at this reality.

Before you die maybe read the topic with "POLL: Most Thai support NCPO" ?

BTW I think a true democrat would scream "bloody murder" with a part of the population wanting to have a billionair who has a reputation of taking care of himself. A criminal fugitive who controlled both the Yingluck government, his Pheu Thai party and directed what they were supposed to do. The January 2013 New York Times article would turn all true democrats away from Thaksin. IMHO

According to the life expectancy of a Dutch male, I have a whopping 39 years to read it, however I did read it,

Actually I even posted on that very thread, which makes me wonder if you read the thread carefully, or only the posts you happen to agree with.

As to the billionaire you are referring to, it's not like Yingluck made her ties and alliance with this particular "criminal" a secret !

Anyway, you probably don't have the slightest clue how opinion poles are conducted and when such a pole has even a remote chance of credibility. Hint, a poll conducted on 626 community leaders isn't. Not only is the number of people polled uncredible, the make off of the people polled isn't either.

Of course I support my argument with real elections in which over 27 million members of the Thai electorate have casts their votes, yet you return with 626 community leaders being polled by the Junta.

Maybe to remain at least a bit credible, you should refrain from even mentioning this opinion pole ? At the end of the day opinion poles don't settle the balance of power, elections do, so you frankly have absolutely nothing to support your silly argument.

Speaking of billionaires, it seems the dear leader has an accummalated wealth way far above his yearly salary, but I suppose corruption isn't the reason right ? Or maybe he's been a general for 600 years or so.

Silly uncle rubl...

Edit to add: I don't support Thaksin, and I believe he is corrupt to the core. However there is very strong evidence to suggest he and his proxies have massive electoral support. As a true democrat I cannot and should not ignore this. Any country and electorate gets the government they deserve.

I also have no doubts that the competition is equally corrupt to the core, evidence of this is hardly scarce.

This.

You're right that these polls are not representitive of the population. What next?

Measuring the average IQ of Thais with a poll of 200 Phd students?

[bangrak]

How in the world can you put a bunch of intellectually challenged people in the same room and expect intelligent results. They are mad I tell you, bloody mad.

You visibly don't remember about the previous ones 'barking', do you? Still 'no good' but 'less bad', as Thais'd say, with a wry smile...

And 'intelligence' is a very dangerous good to have in store here for true Thais, as much as heroin and explosives, as many an 'engaged' student and 'socialist' intellectual could witness about, when they would still be alive... Leave the 'intelligence' to the Thai-Chinese, they have education and they own the country already anyway... For sure they will know how to 'intelligently' manipulate the impaired bunch you wrongly call mad, making good use of their immense greed, to achieve the Chinese goals of their own... What about the Thais, then? Yeah, what about them, indeed... It's as if we are the only ones left asking that question... As if they are lost forever, unless, maybe, someday, THEY become 'mad', as mad as hell, then, maybe I wrote...