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LONDON: -- British police who travelled to Thailand to review the investigation into the murders of backpackers Hannah Witheridge and David Miller are due to return to the UK, having completed their work "as far as possible".


Metropolitan Police officers flew out to the Thai island of Koh Tao last month to work with the Royal Thai Police after an agreement between David Cameron and military ruler General Prayuth Chan-ocha.

It followed international concern about the way the case has been handled by the Thai authorities.

Mr Miller, 24, from Jersey, and 23-year-old Ms Witheridge, from Great Yarmouth in Norfolk, were found dead on a beach in September.

Scotland Yard said the British officers will compile a report from their review.

Source: http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-11-11/british-police-to-return-from-thailand-in-backpacker-murder-probe/

-- ITV 2014-11-11

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What ever the out comes they could only investigate as far as possible , that says that diplomatic talk will prevail and no media stops off the record will take place, pity, one would like to see the report however tossed up and feel good it is towards the RTP and Thai Administration, we can't have an international incident can we now.coffee1.gif

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Thailand murders: UK police to compile investigation report

(BBC) UK police are to return from Thailand after reviewing an investigation into the murders of two British tourists, Scotland Yard has said.


The bodies of David Miller, 24, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, were discovered on a beach in Koh Tao on 15 September.

Metropolitan Police officers flew out last month to work with Thai police, who are holding two Burmese suspects.

The UK detectives will now compile a report and "update the families of Hannah and David," a spokesman said.

"Detectives from the UK who are currently in Thailand reviewing the investigation into the murders of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller have completed their work, as far as possible," the Met Police said in a statement.

"They will now be returning to the UK to compile their report and to update the families of Hannah and David on their findings.

"The police team wish to thank the Thai authorities for facilitating the visit."

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29999735

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No one has mentioned anything about our Sean lately and he does seem to have a penchant for self-agrandissment and spaced out incoherence. However, he might be a person the British police would want to interview, if they haven't done so already, as a background witness, given his allegation that Mon and his police friend threatened to 'suicide' him and fit him up posthumously for the murders and the knife-like wounds he sustained in a motor bike accident around the time of the murders.

It shouldn't be hard to find him. When he fled KT journalists reported that he had gone to stay with his girlfriend, Francesca Mussi of Milan, at her home in Italy. Here is the lady in question.

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Notice the guitar which had the DNA of its bloodstains tested by KT police. They apparently met in Leeds where the lady was studying which seems to be the backdrop here and here.

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Perhaps the guitar will eventually end up for sale at Sothebys. 555

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"Detectives from the UK who are currently in Thailand reviewing the investigation into the murders of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller have completed their work, as far as possible," the Met Police said in a statement." This Met Police statement implies that there has been a critical appraisal of the RTP investigation. I sincerely hope so, anyway.

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As others have mentioned, an independent analysis of DNA taken from the 2 accused should be enough to verify that they indeed are the prime suspects. I wonder if the British police asked for and were given a sample to try a match against DNA of the victims, which they already have. I somehow doubt it.

The problem is that nobody, not Thai, Burmese, British nor anyone else in the World, who has taken an interest in this terrible affair, will believe that justice has been done if the 2 Burmese are convicted only on the existing evidence.

Those of us living in Thailand know that corruption is rife throughout the kingdom, most of us from experience.

The British ambassador offered British help in analysing the DNA very early on and was rejected. It is unclear whether the Thai police pathologists would have left any uncontaminated traces of the DNA on the body prior to repatriation. Even the suspects' blood groups would provide a very broad type of cross reference, as used to be done in the old days.

What is reassuring is that we already know that the British police have given the Thai police investigation a clean bill of health as having been done in accordance with the procedures of the Thai justice system. Certainly there can be no doubt that all the required forms were completed with the correct signatures and stamps.

Scotland Yard said the British officers will compile a report from their review.

Of course they will compile a report but will it be may public, given that this is in the public interest as so many British citizens travel to Thailand; or will it be suppressed in respect of the sensitivities of the RTG and the victim's families?

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As others have mentioned, an independent analysis of DNA taken from the 2 accused should be enough to verify that they indeed are the prime suspects. I wonder if the British police asked for and were given a sample to try a match against DNA of the victims, which they already have. I somehow doubt it.

The problem is that nobody, not Thai, Burmese, British nor anyone else in the World, who has taken an interest in this terrible affair, will believe that justice has been done if the 2 Burmese are convicted only on the existing evidence.

Those of us living in Thailand know that corruption is rife throughout the kingdom, most of us from experience.

Here we go again. If the DNA-result from the victim in the RTP's evidence-room is tainted/fake, it doesn't matter how many additional tests are taken from the B2, or who conducts the new tests!!

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In another similar case on New Year's Eve Nick Pearson who, according to his parents who identified his body on site, apparently died in a similar way to David (and Katherine Horton in Koh Samui) from battering about the head prior to being thrown into the sea to drown, the Thai police reported that he had accidentally fallen from his hotel room onto the rocks 50 feet below and bounced into the sea without sustaining any fractures and drowned. This happened on the same Sairee Beach, which is now being dubbed "Murder Beach" by German language media following the disappearance and presumed drowing of a Swiss tourist there at the week-end.

In Nick Pearson's case, it came out at the coroner's inquest that the UK pathologist had reported that Nick may have been attacked prior to drowning. That is probably about as far as UK authorities will be prepared to go to confront any discrepancies in a Thai police investigation that has been completed in accordance with Thai justice system procedures. After all its their jurisdiction.

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As others have mentioned, an independent analysis of DNA taken from the 2 accused should be enough to verify that they indeed are the prime suspects. I wonder if the British police asked for and were given a sample to try a match against DNA of the victims, which they already have. I somehow doubt it.

The problem is that nobody, not Thai, Burmese, British nor anyone else in the World, who has taken an interest in this terrible affair, will believe that justice has been done if the 2 Burmese are convicted only on the existing evidence.

Those of us living in Thailand know that corruption is rife throughout the kingdom, most of us from experience.

Here we go again. If the DNA-result from the victim in the RTP's evidence-room is tainted/fake, it doesn't matter how many additional tests are taken from the B2, or who conducts the new tests!!

If we had not already received such comprehensive assurances of the praise heaped on the Thai police investigation by the plods, a person with an uncharitable disposition might have suggested that the DNA profiles of the semen and saliva samples found on Hannah's body might actually have been left effectively blank to be completed later, making for greater efficiency in wrapping up the case. Of course this would be totally in line with British, Thai and international standards.

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Only way this case will be properly solved:

UK authorities were able to get DNA samples from the bodies when they arrived back in the UK.

The UK authorities are given legal rights to take DNA samples from suspects in Thailand, whoever they decide they might be.

Dream time. Will never happen. the case will never be properly solved.

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