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Magna Carta Goes on Display in Washington, D.C.
by Megan Gannon

WASHINGTON: -- Scrawled in Medieval Latin on yellowing parchment, an original copy of the Magna Carta is now on view at the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C.

The historic charter turns 800 next year. To celebrate, the Library of Congress is hosting a 10-week exhibition, "Magna Carta: Muse and Mentor."

The centerpiece of the show is the Lincoln Cathedral Magna Carta, on loan from its caretaker, the Lincoln Cathedral in England. [see photos of the Magna Carta texts on display]

The document is one of just four surviving copies from 1215. That year, English barons pressured King John (who was later villainized in the legend of Robin Hood) into signing the Magna Carta. The text had 63 clauses drawn up to limit John's power, but by far the most enduring article was this one:

"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled … except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land."

The clause protected free men in England from being unlawfully imprisoned, and that article became the basis for the writ of habeas corpus in the 17th century, when interest in the Magna Carta as an affirmation of individual liberties was revived. Habeas corpus is still invoked today to bring a prisoner before a court to determine if that person's imprisonment is legal, and it's considered one of the most important privileges associated with English civil liberties.

Full story: http://www.livescience.com/48679-magna-carta-exhibit-library-of-congress.html

-- live science 2014-11-14

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Habeas corpus.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Which is why many people in the UK are against the EU arrest warrant.

It allows for a British subject to be shipped over to countries like Greece upon request without being questioned by the British police or government. That citizen can then languish in a Greek prison for 2-3 years without even being given a trial yet. Because that is how some of the countries work in the EU.

This is a massive breech of Habeas Corpus and the citizen's rights under the Magna Carta.

Cameron is in fact defiling the Magna Carta and should be locked up himself..... Keep driving more voters to UKIP Dave..... You idiot.

Costa will love this as the prisons in Greece have been privatised just like the UK.I know he is a major share holder,wish I had listened to him when he gave me the tip.But that would have been insider dealing and I am above that.Costa where is my money,you cheap Zorba.

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"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled … except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land."

Eight centuries in place in England: though often violated, it eventually came true. Thailand is still waiting.

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"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled … except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land."

Eight centuries in place in England: though often violated, it eventually came true. Thailand is still waiting.

I think America is still waiting too. Easy to display it, try living it!!!

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Habeas corpus.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Which is why many people in the UK are against the EU arrest warrant.

It allows for a British subject to be shipped over to countries like Greece upon request without being questioned by the British police or government. That citizen can then languish in a Greek prison for 2-3 years without even being given a trial yet. Because that is how some of the countries work in the EU.

This is a massive breech of Habeas Corpus and the citizen's rights under the Magna Carta.

Cameron is in fact defiling the Magna Carta and should be locked up himself..... Keep driving more voters to UKIP Dave..... You idiot.

I don't think you can languish in prison without trial in any EU country, EU laws would prevent that, i say think because i don't know but it seems that everything else is regulated and they have a European court of humane rights.

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A truly great piece of history which in many ways can still bring it's wisdom to the world after 800 yrs, but do they listen do they <deleted>

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Compare the Manga Carta to the NCPO's warrantless arrest under martial law, absolute power under Articles 17 and 44 of the Interim Charter, and trial by military court. England has worked to preserve and improve on human rights for 800 years while it took the Thai military just four years to destroy it. Which peoples would be more optimistic about their future?

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A truly great piece of history which in many ways can still bring it's wisdom to the world after 800 yrs, but do they listen do they <deleted>

They hear, but they do not listen.coffee1.gif

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Compare the Manga Carta to the NCPO's warrantless arrest under martial law, absolute power under Articles 17 and 44 of the Interim Charter, and trial by military court. England has worked to preserve and improve on human rights for 800 years while it took the Thai military just four years to destroy it. Which peoples would be more optimistic about their future?

What a load of old twaddle.

Human in rights in England after Magna Carta were based on wealth, family, influence and connections. Many soldiers who fought and died in WW1 did not have the right to vote. Note it's rules apply to free men. Many were not free for centuries after Magna Carta.

Magna Carta limited the power of the ruler and protected the rights of the hiso ruling feudal hierarchy and a few other chosen ones.

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Habeas corpus.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Not really.

A brief history of habeas corpus

It does not determine guilt or innocence, merely whether the person is legally imprisoned. It may also be writ against a private individual detaining another.

If the charge is considered to be valid, the person must submit to trial but if not, the person goes free.

Which is why many people in the UK are against the EU arrest warrant.

It allows for a British subject to be shipped over to countries like Greece upon request without being questioned by the British police or government. That citizen can then languish in a Greek prison for 2-3 years without even being given a trial yet. Because that is how some of the countries work in the EU.

This is a massive breech of Habeas Corpus and the citizen's rights under the Magna Carta.

Cameron is in fact defiling the Magna Carta and should be locked up himself..... Keep driving more voters to UKIP Dave..... You idiot.

The European arrest warrant is a tool to make it easier to extradite suspected criminals from one EU state to another; it has it's flaws, yes, but does make extradition within the EU quicker and simpler.

Q&A: European Arrest Warrant

Why is the European Arrest Warrant so controversial?

Oddly enough, many of those arguing that the UK should withdraw from it are the same people who complained about how long it took to get Abu Hamza extradited to the States and similar lengthy extradition hearings!

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Was never intended to benefit ordinary people. It was to give more rights to the aristocracy instead of the king being an absolute ruler.

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Compare the Manga Carta to the NCPO's warrantless arrest under martial law, absolute power under Articles 17 and 44 of the Interim Charter, and trial by military court. England has worked to preserve and improve on human rights for 800 years while it took the Thai military just four years to destroy it. Which peoples would be more optimistic about their future?

The Manga Carta would be the Japanese version?

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So First Steps in an ancient time - were not to be understood as steps toward democracy - however painfully slowly taken?

Only modern minds of spoiled people can be so shallow to not understand the significance -- From the absolute King - no sharing of power or privilege to Aristocracy and later to the People ... step by step ... Perfection does not happen at first glance.

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So First Steps in an ancient time - were not to be understood as steps toward democracy - however painfully slowly taken?

Only modern minds of spoiled people can be so shallow to not understand the significance -- From the absolute King - no sharing of power or privilege to Aristocracy and later to the People ... step by step ... Perfection does not happen at first glance.

Of course it's significant, but the fact that we benefit from it now was never the intention of its original authors, who were perfectly happy to treat their serfs as beneath the law.

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So First Steps in an ancient time - were not to be understood as steps toward democracy - however painfully slowly taken?

Only modern minds of spoiled people can be so shallow to not understand the significance -- From the absolute King - no sharing of power or privilege to Aristocracy and later to the People ... step by step ... Perfection does not happen at first glance.

Of course it's significant, but the fact that we benefit from it now was never the intention of its original authors, who were perfectly happy to treat their serfs as beneath the law.

And that somehow negates the whole thing ? ... time and progression ...

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So First Steps in an ancient time - were not to be understood as steps toward democracy - however painfully slowly taken?

Only modern minds of spoiled people can be so shallow to not understand the significance -- From the absolute King - no sharing of power or privilege to Aristocracy and later to the People ... step by step ... Perfection does not happen at first glance.

Of course it's significant, but the fact that we benefit from it now was never the intention of its original authors, who were perfectly happy to treat their serfs as beneath the law.

And that somehow negates the whole thing ? ... time and progression ...

Did I say that at all? Or even intonate it?

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Nice to see those with O level history getting their say in.......try to remember that England was very much part of Europe in those days and we shared a common currency....

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"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled … except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land."

Eight centuries in place in England: though often violated, it eventually came true. Thailand is still waiting.

You could say the same about Parking tkts in the UK , No fines or forfeits can be imposed on any man , without the right to appear in a Court of law. all fines and forfeits shall be deemed as illegal,

We have an original Magna carter near us, most of the worlds Justice systems are based on it.

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"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled … except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land."

Eight centuries in place in England: though often violated, it eventually came true. Thailand is still waiting.

You could say the same about Parking tkts in the UK , No fines or forfeits can be imposed on any man , without the right to appear in a Court of law. all fines and forfeits shall be deemed as illegal,

We have an original Magna carter near us, most of the worlds Justice systems are based on it.

In fact of course if you choose, you can take such things as fixed penalty motoring fines to court....I have a couple of times.....and won!

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