chiangrai Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hi, I have a new notebook with windows 8. I turned on the notebook for the first time and downloaded Original Shell. So it now doesn't go to the windows 8 start page any more,it goes to the desktop. Any way I started to have reception problems and found that I was connected to the neighbors WiFi and that my WIFI wasn't on the available networks list. I then went to YouTube and found lots of videos on this problem but they showed how to fix it from the Windows 8 start page. Does any one know how to fix this problem from the desktop or how I can get to the windows start page from the desktop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Why not press the Windows key? You can alternate between the two. (I have Windows 8.1) http://blogs.msdn.com/b/zxue/archive/2012/03/07/win8-howto-1-switch-between-metro-ui-and-desktop.aspx Edit Why not upgrade to 8.1? Edited November 19, 2014 by ravip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 O.K I've gotten over the desk top problem. from the videos on YouTube it seems like I have a problem with the drivers. Does the program Slimdrivers work on windows 8.1 which is the version I have. Again the problem is that the notebook lists my neighbors' wi-fi as available but not my wi-fi conection, even though this Laptop is recieving it fine and is in the same room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Never install any sort of driver tracking programme. Just check for the latest drivers on the manufacturer's website. You should try changing the wifi channel of your connection first, and if that fails try renaming it. Both are done from the router. If both of those dont help then try changing the security type, also done from the router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Maybe your neighbor's using yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Never install any sort of driver tracking programme. Just check for the latest drivers on the manufacturer's website. You should try changing the wifi channel of your connection first, and if that fails try renaming it. Both are done from the router. If both of those dont help then try changing the security type, also done from the router. What sort of advice is that? SlimDrivers does a great job locating Drivers that are otherwise buried away somewhere. And yes, it works on WIndows 8.x. Edited November 20, 2014 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Since you said this is a "new" PC, I'm assuming your old PC connected to your Wifi router just fine? Take a look at this list of potential problems and fixes from the Microsoft website. Have you tried turning off your Wifi router for about 15 seconds. Also, do you have your router setup to broadcast its network name? Take a look at above link. Good luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 O.K, Turning the modem on and off worked My router is TP-LINK D48ESE and my notebook is Lenova Flex 10. I didn't think that the router was the problem because the other laptop was working perfectly. Now I must get Firefox,any suggestions on what version I should get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Aleman Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Same problem and I was ready to remove 8 but a fellow in Tuk Com, in Pattaya, was , for 500B, able to make my Detac air card work ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Switch off, switch on sure can fix problems sometimes. Over the years I have a couple of strange Wifi connection and/or internet surfing issues that were fixed by merely turning the modem/router off for approx 15 seconds. And you may have tried reinventing the computer wheel in trying to figure out and fix the issue. Computers are man's best friend (sometimes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mises Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 You will save yourself much grief and heartache by putting your new notebook in a drawer and leaving it there or simply put it out with the trash. You have made a start by installing Classic Shell, then you will need to disable the charms (bottom RH almost impossible) and the touch screen driver but no matter what you do it will still be slow and many simple functions such as copy and paste will not work as you have become accustomed to. You will also find that it will not print from I.E. but will from Firefox - amazing a Windows product that does not work on a Windows operating system. Finally, when you see "Outlook (or whatever function you are trying to use) is not responding" for the tenth time in an hour you will want to smash your notebook to bits with a large hammer. Trust me, give up with it now and find something with Windows 7. Windows 9 has been abandoned so it will be a long wait for Windows 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKAheng Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) A good free program to see the traffic on every channel, NetSurveyor. Look at those screen captures, the first one is the channel usage, you can see how many wi-fi router is using witch channel. The second one is the same, but it is called channel heat, the red ones are the most used so you can change for a less busy channel. Edited November 20, 2014 by NamKAheng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 You will save yourself much grief and heartache by putting your new notebook in a drawer and leaving it there or simply put it out with the trash. You have made a start by installing Classic Shell, then you will need to disable the charms (bottom RH almost impossible) and the touch screen driver but no matter what you do it will still be slow and many simple functions such as copy and paste will not work as you have become accustomed to. You will also find that it will not print from I.E. but will from Firefox - amazing a Windows product that does not work on a Windows operating system. Finally, when you see "Outlook (or whatever function you are trying to use) is not responding" for the tenth time in an hour you will want to smash your notebook to bits with a large hammer. Trust me, give up with it now and find something with Windows 7. Windows 9 has been abandoned so it will be a long wait for Windows 10. Or just do the free upgrade to Win 8.1...works fine, super stable. But a person will need to learn how to switch back and forth between the Desktop and Metro environments (like pressing the Windows key) because he'll probably want to exist in both environments for certain programs since both have their pros and cons. I din't like Win 8.0 especially for the first few weeks (i.e., the learning curve) but after I learned a few things I liked it a little...and then when Win 8.1 came out I liked it a lot more. Yeap, Win 8 is different...requires a learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 O.K I've gotten over the desk top problem. from the videos on YouTube it seems like I have a problem with the drivers. Does the program Slimdrivers work on windows 8.1 which is the version I have. Again the problem is that the notebook lists my neighbors' wi-fi as available but not my wi-fi conection, even though this Laptop is recieving it fine and is in the same room lists my neighbors' wi-fi as available but not my wi-fi conection, Do a quick check on your Laptop & WiFi router frequencies - 2.4 or 5 GHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICECOOL Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Is it possible your modem had customised settings for your old laptop? Perhaps resetting your modem to default factory settings might be worth trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Dude chuck that cheap arse pantip special WIFI ROUTER and get a netgear wifi router I have one works great can even pickup signal from pool with extra USB stick that you can buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 What is the exact model of your Laptop & WiFi Router? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Guys....he got it working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Guys....he got it working Yeap...I was wondering when some of the folks might notice that...if they had only read his post #8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 You will save yourself much grief and heartache by putting your new notebook in a drawer and leaving it there or simply put it out with the trash. You have made a start by installing Classic Shell, then you will need to disable the charms (bottom RH almost impossible) and the touch screen driver but no matter what you do it will still be slow and many simple functions such as copy and paste will not work as you have become accustomed to. You will also find that it will not print from I.E. but will from Firefox - amazing a Windows product that does not work on a Windows operating system. Finally, when you see "Outlook (or whatever function you are trying to use) is not responding" for the tenth time in an hour you will want to smash your notebook to bits with a large hammer. Trust me, give up with it now and find something with Windows 7. Windows 9 has been abandoned so it will be a long wait for Windows 10. Windows 10 IS Windows 9. The only reason they renamed it is because of legacy code containing the string "Win9" apparently. Even the version number is 6.4. It won't be a long wait judging by the stability of the technical preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 A good free program to see the traffic on every channel, NetSurveyor. Look at those screen captures, the first one is the channel usage, you can see how many wi-fi router is using witch channel. The second one is the same, but it is called channel heat, the red ones are the most used so you can change for a less busy channel. NetSurveyor-1.jpgNetSurveyor-2.jpg That's handy, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKAheng Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 A good free program to see the traffic on every channel, NetSurveyor. Look at those screen captures, the first one is the channel usage, you can see how many wi-fi router is using witch channel. The second one is the same, but it is called channel heat, the red ones are the most used so you can change for a less busy channel. NetSurveyor-1.jpgNetSurveyor-2.jpg That's handy, thanks. NetSurveyor is also good for finding free wi-fi around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I found recently the wi-fi didn't want to connect up after a physical disconnection/attempted re-connection. It was because there was a piece of software blocking and its icon flashing at the bottom of the screen which I had previously ignored as something irrelevant. Clicked and 'approved' and the problem went away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggg88 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 You will save yourself much grief and heartache by putting your new notebook in a drawer and leaving it there or simply put it out with the trash. You have made a start by installing Classic Shell, then you will need to disable the charms (bottom RH almost impossible) and the touch screen driver but no matter what you do it will still be slow and many simple functions such as copy and paste will not work as you have become accustomed to. You will also find that it will not print from I.E. but will from Firefox - amazing a Windows product that does not work on a Windows operating system. Finally, when you see "Outlook (or whatever function you are trying to use) is not responding" for the tenth time in an hour you will want to smash your notebook to bits with a large hammer. Trust me, give up with it now and find something with Windows 7. Windows 9 has been abandoned so it will be a long wait for Windows 10. In my experience as an IT professional the above comments are pretty much true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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