Thai police failed to do their duty in body parts case

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'Police failed to do their duty in body parts case'
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- THE POLICE who briefly detained and questioned two Americans found attempting to courier human body parts via DHL should face charges of dereliction of duty for failing to charge them with filing false information during delivery registration, Lawyers' Council of Thailand chairman Dej-udom Krairit said yesterday.

Notified by DHL of delivery registration that stated the cargo was toys being sent to Las Vegas addresses, the Bang Phongphang police could have immediately charged Ryan Edward McPherson and Daniel Jamon Tanner with filing false information, after they admitted to it during brief questioning.

Dej-udom said both Americans, who left for Cambodia soon after being released, were also in criminal violation of customs regulations that bar postal delivery of human parts and organs. He said the police officers failed to nail them for this offence. They also failed to inspect delivery registration notes that both the accused had signed, making the crime complete and immediately chargeable.

He said law enforcement should be applied equally to all offenders committing crimes in Thailand. However, police in this case appeared to be lenient with both Americans.

Meanwhile, police who interviewed the custodians and staff at Siriraj Hospital, whose museum owned the five stolen human parts, said none of them were involved in the loss of the items.

A senior interrogator, Pol Maj-General Sombat Milinthajinda, said surveillance-camera footage handed over to the police by the Faculty of Medicine Siriraj Hospital, Mahidol University, only showed the two men entering and leaving the museum. The footage did not reveal them hiding anything inside their outfits on the way out.

He said security measures had been put in place after the loss of bodies of twin infants from the museum in 2003, but these involved only registration of visitors and installation of security cameras, while visitors could roam freely once they got inside.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Police-failed-to-do-their-duty-in-body-parts-case-30248162.html


-- The Nation 2014-11-20

[Jay Sata]

Par for the course with the Thai police.

Nothing to see here so move along.

[chooka]

Dereliction of duty is just part of the job for the BIB. Think it is bad now wait until police conscription comes in, more idiots who have no idea what they are doing running around with weapons and power.

[HeijoshinCool]

Thai police failed to do their duty in body parts case

Well, they have little if any training.

But for a major-general to come out and say, well, gee, heck, poopy face, we only have them on camera at the scene on the day of the theft, after they signed in, but not actually putting the items in their pockets, so what were we to do …?

Geez.

Then the RTP go public worldwide, whining for help from the FBI and Interpol, to return the thieves to the very room they sat in a conned their interrogators into releasing them on a "promise" to return from another country.

Can't make this stuff up.

EDIT: Maybe the RTP need to establish a new division of crack experts for damage control:

The Anti-Embarrassment Squad

Edited November 19, 2014 by HeijoshinCool

[The stuttering parrot]

Getting the Americans bak to Thailand won't be cheap.

It will cost a bloody arm and a leg!

[noitom]

Thai police would never be able to articulate their "duty." If you asked them to do it, they would say follow the law. If you asked them to tell you what law, they would smile and back away in Thai style.

[Crazy chef 1]

Thai police failed to do their duty in body parts case

Well, they have little if any training.

But for a major-general to come out and say, well, gee, heck, poopy face, we only have them on camera at the scene on the day of the theft, after they signed in, but not actually putting the items in their pockets, so what were we to do ?

Geez.

Then the RTP go public worldwide, whining for help from the FBI and Interpol, to return the thieves to the very room they sat in a conned their interrogators into releasing them on a "promise" to return from another country.

Can't make this stuff up.

EDIT: Maybe the RTP need to establish a new division of crack experts for damage control:

The Anti-Embarrassment Squad

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they would be busy sounds like a save job...

[selftaopath]

Thai police force is pathetic and degrades the reputation the world's dedicated real police.

With a country so focused on "appearance" i.e. "face" how can BIB wear their uniforms with any modicum of self respect?

[BSJ]

Someone once said they were "idiot's with guns". Hard to argue with that!

[NongKhaiKid]

Thai police force is pathetic and degrades the reputation the world's dedicated real police.

With a country so focused on "appearance" i.e. "face" how can BIB wear their uniforms with any modicum of self respect?

Some years ago a poll was published stating 44% of police officers surveyed said they did not like their job and were only in it for the salary.

Needless to say ' salary ' was not expanded upon.

Is it little wonder the BIB are a joke when so many openly admit they're not interested ? I would suggest 44% isn't in the least bit accurate and the true percentage would be very much higher.

[Bluespunk]

"He said the police officers failed to nail them for this offence."

He really said "nail"...someone's been watching too many cop shows.

[ChrisY1]

I wonder how much the 2 guys paid to be released.....

I'm sure that most cops, anywhere, that have people in their office that have tried to mail human body parts, and baby parts at that......there would have to be a 99% chance that the cops ears would prick up.............!

These guys paid for their release and permission to leave Thailand........

[Khun Paul]

It has been said many many times before , you pay peanuts you get monkeys, lack of training / discipline / decision making are some of the biggest problems the Thai Police face. Couple that with the inherent corruption to buy your way into a better job/ position, you have all the ingredients for a truly inept Police service . I am turly amazed at even the Maj Gen coming out with the comments he did.

BUT THIS IS THAILAND SO WHAT'S NEW EH !!

[chainarong]

Lets not get confused here , the RTP fail in their duty every-time, this is not an isolated phenomenon.

[newcomer71]

Yep, this is really a big dilemma. Utter incompetency or infamous corruption?

Not much different from many other stories coming daily from the beloved RTP forces...

[alfalfa19]

In the photos I've seen of the offender, he looks very confident and not at all uncomfortable in the cop shop. I wonder why?

[Katipo]

"He said law enforcement should be applied equally to all offenders committing crimes in Thailand."

.....yes, but we all know it never is. It would be a magical day for the Kingdom if this ever were to happen.

[mrtoad]

Isn't dereliction of duty a pre requisite for promotion with The BIB?

[deecee10]

Does the right arm know what the left is doing?

[Strangebrew]

I don't condone what those knuckleheads did by no means, But being an American they will be held accountable for there actions here in LOS upon return Stateside. We have statue of limitations on some crimes. Murder not being one unlike here. Though I'm not clear on what they did. But The BIB should put out a BOLA on them saying there armed and dangerous. Guess they will be blacklisted now for trying to get a foot in the door here. But must admit they did get a TAT but failed to get TIT with that TAT

[Lupatria]

Yep, this is really a big dilemma. Utter incompetency or infamous corruption?

Not much different from many other stories coming daily from the beloved RTP forces...

incompetency and infamous corruption

What a smooth combination if you look up the origin of the force on wiki - look for Phao Sriyanond - you may want to call it "culture and tradition"

Edited November 20, 2014 by Lupatria

[outsider]

Oh come on now... When did the bumbling idiots succeed in doing anything??? I wouldn't call flexing flaccid muscles at some rubbsih-collector-cum-DVD-peddlar a success! Real idiots. The headline should be more positive. As in "Police Succeeds in Shooting Own Feet Again".

[Lupatria]

Isn't dereliction of duty a pre requisite for promotion with The BIB?

another question is- was any cop ever charged for breaking the oath of office?

[SRC]

Dereliction of duty is just part of the job for the BIB. Think it is bad now wait until police conscription comes in, more idiots who have no idea what they are doing running around with weapons and power.

I am totally looking forward to living there. I like freedom, but this I definitely don't like or feel comfortable with. I understand it's a good idea to carry "tip" money....lol

[klauskunkel]

However, police in this case appeared to be lenient with both Americans.

the leniency had a price tag

[atyclb]

Yep, this is really a big dilemma. Utter incompetency or infamous corruption?

Not much different from many other stories coming daily from the beloved RTP forces...

incompetency and infamous corruption

What a smooth combination if you look up the origin of the force on wiki - look for Phao Sriyanond - you may want to call it "culture and tradition"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phao_Sriyanond

[brucec64]

Most likely what happened is that both of the Americans were escorted to an ATM and then were allowed to go on their merry way. Something that occurs many times a day in Thailand - usually for petty drug charges. The difference here is that the story has been picked up by the news networks.

Foreigners seem to be allowed to leave for much more serious offences. There was a case a couple of years ago where a Swedish man killed a New Zealander in the middle of a busy Pattaya street, in front of hundreds of witnesses. He was arrested, given bail, and then granted a court order allowing him to leave the country for urgent family matters. Obviously, he never returned...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8834932/Thai-police-chase-Kiwis-murder-accused

[thesetat2013]

Thai police force is pathetic and degrades the reputation the world's dedicated real police.

With a country so focused on "appearance" i.e. "face" how can BIB wear their uniforms with any modicum of self respect?

Because they need the uniform to show power to enforce their collections from the average Joe. Without the Uniform would you stop and pay a bribe to someone just because they said they were the BIIB?

[CapFarmer]

Thai police force is pathetic and degrades the reputation the world's dedicated real police.

With a country so focused on "appearance" i.e. "face" how can BIB wear their uniforms with any modicum of self respect?

Some years ago a poll was published stating 44% of police officers surveyed said they did not like their job and were only in it for the salary.

Needless to say ' salary ' was not expanded upon.

Is it little wonder the BIB are a joke when so many openly admit they're not interested ? I would suggest 44% isn't in the least bit accurate and the true percentage would be very much higher.

I'd guess that a 56% job satisfaction rating is higher than most industries. Where I work, I don't imagine anyone would show up if it weren't for the salary.

[Don Aleman]

" Police failure ", ---- Number 236.785 !