Popular Post webfact Posted November 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2014 NACC seeks life ban for false asset filingsThe NationBANGKOK: -- THE NATIONAL Anti-Corruption Commission is seeking a lifetime - instead of a five-year - ban for politicians filing a false financial declaration.Sansern Poljiak, secretary-general of the NACC, said yesterday that Provision 12 is one of 28 in the draft bill that would come up for first reading in the National Legislative Assembly on Thursday.The provision states that if the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Office finds politicians guilty of reporting false assets or debts or failing to report their assets from holding political posts in regard to their declarations as required by law, they would be deprived of their right to hold political posts for the rest of their life.Provision 19 shuts a loophole in the law that allows suspects to flee the country and return after their statute of limitations expires.The provision states that the period of time that suspects escape prosecution would not be counted."This way, if they do not want to face prosecution and want to escape the arm of the law, they must run for all their life,'' he said.Provision 18 seeks to give NACC operatives the same enforcement authority as police officers to apprehend suspects when they fail to report by the time given in a summons or they are wanted under a court-approved arrest warrant.Now the NACC has to depend on police to go after suspects."Many times we know the whereabouts of the suspects but we do not have the power to arrest them, as we have to coordinate with police. This is a loophole that enables suspects to escape,'' he said.The bill would let NACC agents carry firearms when making arrests and also receive the same self-defence and weapons-shooting training that the police get at the Police Academy.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/NACC-seeks-life-ban-for-false-asset-filings-30248410.html-- The Nation 2014-11-24 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted November 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2014 They should all be banned for life for vote-buying and abusing their positions for personal or political gain and for any criminal behavior if it is proven they are associated with it. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StealthEnergiser Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 Stronger rules should include prosecuting police for not doing there duty of reigning these people in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Life time ban: Excellent idea. Carrying guns: Not such a good idea. Make the police do their jobs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If the law is only about political office holders and non violent crime then I agree with getting rid of the statute of limitations. Lifetime bans makes sense as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Life time ban: Excellent idea. Carrying guns: Not such a good idea. Make the police do their jobs. Having a separate force for arresting suspects in criminal proceedings makes sense. Trying to arrest local political bosses using local police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This would narrow things down a bit IF it were to be enforced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So who were the guy's that protested and declined to give their list of assets??????? seems to be a Good for others but not good for me situation going on here, but hey TIT..... we are all equal, some are more equal than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So who were the guy's that protested and declined to give their list of assets??????? seems to be a Good for others but not good for me situation going on here, but hey TIT..... we are all equal, some are more equal than others. They all declared their assets ... in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So saying "it was an honest mistake", wont be allowed anymore. regards Worgeordie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Let's hope that in the interests of fairness, proper criminal charges are laid and convictions brought down before assets are seized, unlike in America. Also, when assets are seized, they should be thoroughly vetted and audited. It seems that when assets are seized, there is no proper scrutiny to decide whether additional criminal charges can be laid if those assets are deemed to have been acquired by illegal means. They are simply seized, and that's the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Let's hope that in the interests of fairness, proper criminal charges are laid and convictions brought down before assets are seized, unlike in America. Also, when assets are seized, they should be thoroughly vetted and audited. It seems that when assets are seized, there is no proper scrutiny to decide whether additional criminal charges can be laid if those assets are deemed to have been acquired by illegal means. They are simply seized, and that's the end of it. I don't think they're talking about seizing any assets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 The actual numbers in the asset fillings are not that interesting, but it must be of public interest to know how the amazing wealth of some politicians and highranking officials are achieved!! I for one would like a little digging into the National Chief of Police Mr Somyot's economic affairs!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Does that include the current members of the NLA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 >>The bill would let NACC agents carry firearms when making arrests and also receive the same self-defence and weapons-shooting training that the police get at the Police Academy.<<QuoteSo the supposedly good guy's, the NACC agents, are going to learn how handle weopons by Chalerm son, who got away with murder and became a shooting-instructor at the Police Academy!! Only in Thailand!! Who need fiction, when living in Thai reality?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 >>."Many times we know the whereabouts of the suspects but we do not have the power to arrest them, as we have to coordinate with police. This is a loophole that enables suspects to escape,'' he said.<< Quote Clearly Thaivisa-posters are not the only ones with no confidence in the RTP!! "As we have to coordinate with police, this is a loophole that enables the suspects to escape" Maybe the NACC should have a look at the RTP for starters?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 They should all be banned for life for vote-buying and abusing their positions for personal or political gain and for any criminal behavior if it is proven they are associated with it. But that would leave the Government House empty!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 They should all be banned for life for vote-buying and abusing their positions for personal or political gain and for any criminal behavior if it is proven they are associated with it. No for vote buying, the buyer should get a jail term and his and his family assets (unless it can be proof that this assets aren't his) should be seized. The vote seller should be stripped of voting rights for life and should pay 10x what he received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab5BKK Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 BUT, with offshore bank accounts, offshore companies, tax havens, nominees, trusts, etc. it'll change very little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustBucket Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 How about 10 years in prison which will automatically mean they can't run as a candidate in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxclever Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 "NACC agents carry firearms"...NACC Gestapo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yes, a lifetime ban and a 700 baht fine just to throw some salt on that wound!!! How about full prosecution with proper jail time like all criminal deserve!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This would narrow things down a bit IF it were to be enforced. I agree, the first thing that crossed my mind was "what politician is going to vote for this". They won't even force the people in the NLA to reveal their assets, never mind tell the truth about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Doesn't make sense. Definitely NOT sustainable. There will be no more politicians in Thailand then... no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 and make it retrospective, that would remove a lot of the scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Have asset whistle blowers get 20% of the amount over what was declared. Ban the politicians or police for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 This would narrow things down a bit IF it were to be enforced. I agree, the first thing that crossed my mind was "what politician is going to vote for this". They won't even force the people in the NLA to reveal their assets, never mind tell the truth about them. I think you will find that the NLA did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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