Eric Loh Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Can the smuggling and corruption in the restive south carried out over the years where there is an emergency law and large military presence? Will be interesting to see how this investigation will develope and who else will be implicated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongtourist Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Shocking, this will really make havoc for the ponzi/ pyramid police scam, all this money taken out of the pot!! And no money for the up and comers! but seriously these guys must have been doing this for many years to have saved that much. i do think they must have been giving a cut to others. Maybe army wasnt one of the benefactors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I have a feeling that nothing is going to come of this....it will disappear from the headlines, then disappear from the inner pages before sinking without trace from the media....and everyone will start going about their usual business. There is vast money to be had being head of Marine Police...oil smuggling is huge and the demand for duty free gas will only increase as the military remove the subsidies from energy next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 EX-CIB chief and three officers granted bail BANGKOK: -- Former Central Investigation Bureau (CIB) commissioner Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat Chayaphan, his former deputy, Pol Maj-Gen Kowit Muangnuan and two other police officers charged with malfeasance in office, bribery, money laundering among other charges were released on bail Monday afternoon. Police did not give details about the amount of money or property put up as bail by each of the four officers who also included Pol Maj-Gen Boonsueb Praithoen and Pol Col Kowit Muangnuan. Six other suspects were detained for another 12 days as police rejected their request for bail. They were identified as Pol Col Wutthichart Luensukhan, Pol Acting Sub-Lt Surasak Chan-ngao, Pol Acting Sub-Lt ChakarinLaothong, Mrs Sawong Moongthiang, Mr Chob Chinprapa and Mrs Tiyaphan Chinprapa. Two more suspects, Mrs Sudathip Muangnuan and Mr Roengsak Saknarong are still on the run. Pol Gen Somyot Poompanmuang, the national police chief, is to hold a press conference tomorrow morning to divulge more details about the case against this gang. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-cib-chief-three-officers-granted-bail -- Thai PBS 2014-11-25 Did he secure his bail with illegally obtained assets? If so, he has nothing to lose here and is free to join the rest of his wealth in Europe or elsewhere. He should never have gotten bail as he will do a 'Vatana' or a 'Thaksin'. Bribes are powerful hard to resist; especially when the briber is worth two Billion Baht. I guess the six lesser criminals didn't have enough money to OK a bail being set. Well with the Thai courts it will need 10 years till anything is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This could be the reason the troubles down South never change.... Yes, create the problem so they call you to fix the problem. Sort of like the fireman committing arson or the US CIA starting wars for the US Army to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norvid Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 To me what they did in the south could be interpreted as against their own people and the country and it could call for capital punishment. It could start real reforms under the martial law with serious consequences to those who commit the crime. Will it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The type of activities in the Deep South referred to in the OP have been mentioned a number of times in media reports. IMO the people in the OP should be charged with treason. I assume treason charges would mean no bail, no release from detention if conviction appealed, no ability to abscond overseas whilst waiting out the Statute of Limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 EX-CIB chief and three officers granted bail BANGKOK: -- Former Central Investigation Bureau (CIB) commissioner Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat Chayaphan, his former deputy, Pol Maj-Gen Kowit Muangnuan and two other police officers charged with malfeasance in office, bribery, money laundering among other charges were released on bail Monday afternoon. Police did not give details about the amount of money or property put up as bail by each of the four officers who also included Pol Maj-Gen Boonsueb Praithoen and Pol Col Kowit Muangnuan. Six other suspects were detained for another 12 days as police rejected their request for bail. They were identified as Pol Col Wutthichart Luensukhan, Pol Acting Sub-Lt Surasak Chan-ngao, Pol Acting Sub-Lt ChakarinLaothong, Mrs Sawong Moongthiang, Mr Chob Chinprapa and Mrs Tiyaphan Chinprapa. Two more suspects, Mrs Sudathip Muangnuan and Mr Roengsak Saknarong are still on the run. Pol Gen Somyot Poompanmuang, the national police chief, is to hold a press conference tomorrow morning to divulge more details about the case against this gang. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-cib-chief-three-officers-granted-bail -- Thai PBS 2014-11-25 Did he secure his bail with illegally obtained assets? If so, he has nothing to lose here and is free to join the rest of his wealth in Europe or elsewhere. He should never have gotten bail as he will do a 'Vatana' or a 'Thaksin'. Bribes are powerful hard to resist; especially when the briber is worth two Billion Baht. I guess the six lesser criminals didn't have enough money to OK a bail being set. Well with the Thai courts it will need 10 years till anything is happening. The case will be 'on hold' while the general is out of the country long enough for the statute of limitations kicks in and the good general can return say, about twenty years. There are some editorials calling for a new law excluding political corruption from any statute of limitations. The problem with that is, politicians will have to vote on it. Maybe the new constitution drafting committee can make it part of the new constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 can you say 'purge'? This is definitely a good start and happy to see, but wouldn't yet qualify as a 'purge' yet. Let's see 100 more similar cases and I will then use the word 'purge' I have a feeling the OP was alluding to how unfair this arrest is because these are red-shirt police. Whenever red-shirts have no way to excuse what someone did, their last line of defence is 'other people do it as well'. They NEVER admit they did anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's a start. I hope that corruption on both sides of the political spectrum are wiped out and also in all government departments and agencies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrosman Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 They catch a big fish and they throw him back out on bail, what is wrong with these people. Like they won't vanish before court? Who gets all the money they found another corrupt cop next in line for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm sure the new head of the DSI, or any other official for that matter, will not comment but it would be nice to know if this case has just suddenly appeared on the radar or was it known about, suspected or even hinted at previously. The question cannot be answered because it would beg the question why was nothing done ? I'm sure many will suspect that political affiliations, loyalties etc may have something to do with the current action and possibly why nothing was done earlier. The current head of the DSI was appointed only last month. Maybe one of his enemies delivered his head on a silver platter to the new DSI. This is Thailand so just about any story you can think up is plausible. Yes. Same same the world over though, as this article mentions happening elsewhere. I like your Dr. Ron Paul quote RametinDallas in your signature. What kills me is the masses all over (many are here), that blindly do whatever "The Government" says to do, no matter how stupid it is. They continue to spout "but it's the law!". Granted, any functioning society needs a few rules, but when they are selectively enforced, it tends to make them all pretty damned stupid. In the USA, there is precious little one cannot be arrested for, if the cop wants to screw with you. In Thailand they have a giant "Law" called Lesse Majeste where they can sweep up anybody they want to on an allegation, which I am still waiting to hear details of in this case. I have no love nor hate for Thaksin, but, aside from his arrest warrants in Thailand, he has the ultimate in Freedom, which is more than one passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Pierre Jacquot Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Released on bail??? This is a <deleted> joke, they will just join the other rich fugitive in Dubai. There is no justice in our country!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Sounds like they are going to hang these guys out to dry. I guess the good old boy network only goes so far, even in Thailand. Didn't you read it------- your "old boys network" are out on BAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 They should not have got bail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Some time ago when talking with a Thai friend who is in a position of some prominence within the civil administration network he let it slip that a certain gentleman who suffers from a chronic ongoing ear affliction was rather heavily involved in somewhat disruptive and aggressive acts in the South as was a ''political crusader who had donated ground for a public park in Bangkok in the past and who had been a somewhat controversial M.P. too who was recently seen carrying a lamp to light the way to the path of democracy? Well that's what the said character claimed anyway. Now was the controversial ex M.P. perhaps seeking a refund on his past ''investments'' due to poor returns, perhaps a chronically ill person was or is trying to scramble back into favour along with consolidating his errant sons police position thus these recent starling revelations concerning a flexible renta cop? Indeed it is a tangled web of deceit, dishonesty and intrigue along with mysterious deaths too. Well well, hope springs eternal? Could it be arranged to hang both of these miscreants and the sons of one in the aforementioned "public " park, between the hours of 10 am and 4 pm of course?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This beast and his cronies have betrayed Thailand and the RTP and therefore deserve to be executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpharma Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 ...Should hang them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzodun Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I suspect that only the red shirt supporters within this group of alleged criminals will ever face any serious consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerakiss Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Well a few red shirt police seem to have been cut out of this business. Two questions: 1. Will the authorities continue investigation into illegal police activities beyond simply known red shirt sympathisers, in other words based on the law rather than political affiliation. 2. Who will step in and take over this business? Because sure as eggs are eggs, someone will. Again, I hope the law prevails in terms of stopping any new entrepreneur, rather than it being just a case of new owners of a different political persuasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Contraband to "back" the insurgents... it is why the "insurgents" exist in the first place. They are nothing more than gangsters running rackets and protection rings, using separatism/religion as a front. The contraband is not how they are funded... it is the entire modus operandi and explanation for their existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Big fish caught, shame the pond is so damn huge! Oh and he's been let back into the water.... It's good news but there is a huge network in place in not only the police but other government agencies and separate 'mafias' too. But hey, gotta start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 So the plebs with little money or power were refused bail whilst the big influencial boys got it. Yep. There was another influential guy who was even granted the right to leave the country to visit the Olympic games and never came back. They never learn indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunMoo Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Bail....? They found a BILLION baht.... Oh well, i guess it was not a blow to corruption, just a change of seats, on the gravy train...oh well, i guess, we all had our doubts.Sad for the country... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 corruption to a scale of billions of baht. granted bail. words fail me. And connected to the insurgency in the south of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 inactive post would be my bet Hope the penalty is more than an inactive post, supporting the insurgency is killing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumteufel Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Being that the RTP are notorious for flashing and parading their hauls and suspects in the media it is very strange that in this instance there are no pictures of the money and gold and other items siezed??? Likewise with another very recent and similar case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderkaufman Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I remember a case of petrol smuggling that was reported in the news about a year or so ago. Many were murdered in some type of currency exchange activity. Is this related? And does anybody know if that case was solved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) <deleted> I cant believe that they Bailed the Police Chief after finding 1BN in his house !!!!! ???? This is sending the wrong message to every other corrupt cop Edited November 25, 2014 by metisdead Profane acronym 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm sure the new head of the DSI, or any other official for that matter, will not comment but it would be nice to know if this case has just suddenly appeared on the radar or was it known about, suspected or even hinted at previously. The question cannot be answered because it would beg the question why was nothing done ? I'm sure many will suspect that political affiliations, loyalties etc may have something to do with the current action and possibly why nothing was done earlier. Of course it hasn't suddenly appeared on anyone's radar and the question can be easily answered. Thaksin has spent the past 15+ years installing his own (paid for) men and women in the ranks of the Police and other Govt agencies, with all of them protecting each other. Nothing was done because they were all making too much money whilst always claiming they were doing it for "the people". Simple. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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