Aust Immigration Minister Morrison granted broad new powers

[Will27]

More good news continues from the Australian Immigration department.

http://australia.news.net/article/2347398/scott-morrison-granted-broad-new-powers

"Immigration Minister Scott Morrison has been granted broad new powers to cancel or refuse visas to non-citizens who commit crimes in Australia.

The Senate on Wednesday passed legislation that broadens the existing grounds for not passing a character test and lowers the threshold for the cancellation of temporary visas for non-citizens.

Assistant immigration minister Michaelia Cash said the federal government had low tolerance of criminal behaviour by non-citizens.

"Entry and stay in Australia by non-citizens is a privilege, not a right," she told the chamber on Wednesday.

"The Australian community expects that the Australian government can and should refuse entry to non-citizens or cancel their visas if they do not abide by Australian laws."

No one should really be surprised by that loony from the left, senator Sarah Hanson-Young opposing it by rolling

out the old chestnut "risked breaching fundamental human rights."

[Mudcrab]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

[ezzra]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

[moojar]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

[simple1]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

As of last week 73 Australian residents have had their passports revoked for being identified as IS supporters. IS members murder, rape, torture & sell into slavery Muslims & non-Muslims; including women and children. Is it OK by you to facilitate this activity by allowing them to depart Australia & join IS?

[Saan]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

As of last week 73 Australian residents have had their passports revoked for being identified as IS supporters. IS members murder, rape, torture & sell into slavery Muslims & non-Muslims; including women and children. Is it OK by you to facilitate this activity by allowing them to depart Australia & join IS?

Would you rather they did all of the above in Australia. If they want sharia law it is better for everyone that they return to countries that have sharia law rather than have them try and impose it on Australia.

[makkam]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

Plenty of multi generation white trash that need sorting before licking your lips at the possibility of a pogrom on newly arrived non white , non Christians.

Majority of new arrivals want to get a job, a home and their kids settled and don't arrive solely intent on getting handouts... Despite what you and your kkk buddies would have us believe

[bangkokjulia]

The Australian government do not want Australian IS supporters heading overseas, as they are worried that the training etc they receive overseas will make them invaluable when they return to Australia to wreak havoc there.

[moojar]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

As of last week 73 Australian residents have had their passports revoked for being identified as IS supporters. IS members murder, rape, torture & sell into slavery Muslims & non-Muslims; including women and children. Is it OK by you to facilitate this activity by allowing them to depart Australia & join IS?

It's fine by me if they go and get themselves martyred. Given a choice between them trotting around wreaking havoc in (a) the middle east or ( b ) suburban Australia, I'll take (a) every time. So long as we don't allow them back - made that mistake once before.

Edited November 29, 2014 by moojar

[Saan]

Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

As of last week 73 Australian residents have had their passports revoked for being identified as IS supporters. IS members murder, rape, torture & sell into slavery Muslims & non-Muslims; including women and children. Is it OK by you to facilitate this activity by allowing them to depart Australia & join IS?

It's fine by me if they go and get themselves martyred. Given a choice between them trotting around wreaking havoc in (a) the middle east or ( b ) suburban Australia, I'll take (a) every time. So long as we don't allow them back - made that mistake once before.

The problem is with many of the young ones that want to go and fight is that they were born in Australia and have full citizenship. Allowing any government to decide which Australian born citizen should loose his or her citizenship is not something I'd trust a government with.

[simple1]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

As of last week 73 Australian residents have had their passports revoked for being identified as IS supporters. IS members murder, rape, torture & sell into slavery Muslims & non-Muslims; including women and children. Is it OK by you to facilitate this activity by allowing them to depart Australia & join IS?

It's fine by me if they go and get themselves martyred. Given a choice between them trotting around wreaking havoc in (a) the middle east or ( b ) suburban Australia, I'll take (a) every time. So long as we don't allow them back - made that mistake once before.

Fine by me also for IS members to die. What is not OK by me is for Oz government to 'give up' and permit them to depart Australia to carry out their evil in another country against innocents - whatever it takes deal with them in Oz.

[gamini]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

as well as all the criminals and undesirables that were shipped to Australia in the first place!

[Mudcrab]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

Plenty of multi generation white trash that need sorting before licking your lips at the possibility of a pogrom on newly arrived non white , non Christians.

Majority of new arrivals want to get a job, a home and their kids settled and don't arrive solely intent on getting handouts... Despite what you and your kkk buddies would have us believe

Show me the employment stats on the so called refugees. Then show me the social security payments for them.

Did you see the photo of the guy smashing the bin into a cop car during the riots last year......you know the same one who is now posting on facebook pictures of his seven year old holding the decapitated heads of other MUSLIMS in Iraq.

It might come as a surprise to you (but not to most thinking people) that he was on a disability pension due to a football injury at the time.

Didn't stop him rioting or indeed going overseas inflicting barbaric savagery on his fellow members of the religion of peace.

I wonder how he could afford the airfare on a disability payment.

You happy clapping lefties will be the ruin of this once great nation.

[Mudcrab]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

as well as all the criminals and undesirables that were shipped to Australia in the first place!

There were more soldiers on the boats than criminals.

Anyway blame the Yanks - if they didn't start, and win, the War of Independence the Poms could have kept shipping the crims over there!!

[Mudcrab]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

Plenty of multi generation white trash that need sorting before licking your lips at the possibility of a pogrom on newly arrived non white , non Christians.

Majority of new arrivals want to get a job, a home and their kids settled and don't arrive solely intent on getting handouts... Despite what you and your kkk buddies would have us believe

Where was skin colour or religion mentioned in my post?

I have many Asian friends, colleagues and acquaintances some of whom came, or their parents did, as refugees as a direct result of the war in Viet Nam.

Not too many of them were/are Christians.

Many others have been in Australia since the 1800 hundreds.

They have all assimilated very well.

And knock of the KKK thing. I have many Aboriginal mates as well after having lived in remote communities for many years.

As opposed to being a city slicker who will latch on to the latest trendoid nonsense without thinking...or even being able to think for themselves.

[Old Croc]

These changes, and this thread, is about cancellation or refusal of entry of NON-CITIZENS. It has nothing to do with Australian Citizens travelling to war zones.

The biggest change that I can see is to The Character Test. Now a person can fail if there is a "Reasonable Suspicion" that

they have been involved in criminal activity. Previously it had to be confirmed that someone had criminal convictions resulting in goal time before cancellation action. Quite strong powers granted to the Minister or his delegates.

"A person can now fail the character test if there's a "reasonable suspicion" - not a conviction - for involvement in crime gangs, people smuggling, genocide, war crimes, torture or slavery.

Anyone who has one or multiple jail sentences adding up to 12 months - down from two years - or has an adverse ASIO assessment of child sex charges can also fail automatically.

The minister can cancel or refuse a visa to anyone who fails the character test."

Incidentally, under law there is no differentiation between Australian born citizens and migrants or are subsequently granted citizenship.

Apart from the occasional few who have sought revocation of citizenship, I am only aware of a couple of cases where it was cancelled (revoked) by the Department.

One was a well known, at the time, American basketballer who was found to have committed crimes before his grant. Another that I can recall was a gold thief who wasn't caught until after her grant.

[Si Thea01]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

Plenty of multi generation white trash that need sorting before licking your lips at the possibility of a pogrom on newly arrived non white , non Christians.

Majority of new arrivals want to get a job, a home and their kids settled and don't arrive solely intent on getting handouts... Despite what you and your kkk buddies would have us believe

Are you an Australian, of European or English extraction, or just another non white, non Christian, who has a problem fitting into society. White trash is a racist remark and you ought to pull your head in. People like you want to divide society and use the kind of fallacious remarks to sustain your bigotry. And yes, I am an a 5th generation Australian, of Irish decent and certainly not a piece of white trash, as you put it, that needs sorting out.

Yes, there are large number of immigrants who come to Australia for a better life and they have no problem in adapting to the Australian way of life and many eventually become citizens. However, there are quite a few others who come here to freeload, carry out their various criminal activities and seek generally, to cause diversity within society and attempt to push their religion and beliefs to the extent that they end up being radicalised and attempt to cause fear through various acts of terrorism.

You have used the word "Pogrom." Are you aware that this is a Russian word meaning to wreak havoc, to demolish violently and historically refers to violent attacks by local non-Jewish populations on Jews in Russia and other countries. So by using this word you are suggesting that the so called white trash needs sorting before the poster starts licking his lips at the possibility of a violent riot aimed at massacre or persecution of an ethnic or religious group, particularly aimed at the Jews.

If you want to use a word that many may not understand the meaning of, then I suggest that you first comprehend its definition and then use it where its relevance is related to what you are writing about. Certainly doesn't fit the subject you are on about.

[surfinglife]

"...federal government had low tolerance of criminal behaviour by non-citizens."The citizens however, whose ancestors arrived in Australia after commiting crimes in a far-away country, are free to continue the family tradition. It's in the genes apparently.

[Si Thea01]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

Plenty of multi generation white trash that need sorting before licking your lips at the possibility of a pogrom on newly arrived non white , non Christians.

Majority of new arrivals want to get a job, a home and their kids settled and don't arrive solely intent on getting handouts... Despite what you and your kkk buddies would have us believe

Show me the employment stats on the so called refugees. Then show me the social security payments for them.

Did you see the photo of the guy smashing the bin into a cop car during the riots last year......you know the same one who is now posting on facebook pictures of his seven year old holding the decapitated heads of other MUSLIMS in Iraq.

It might come as a surprise to you (but not to most thinking people) that he was on a disability pension due to a football injury at the time.

Didn't stop him rioting or indeed going overseas inflicting barbaric savagery on his fellow members of the religion of peace.

I wonder how he could afford the airfare on a disability payment.

You happy clapping lefties will be the ruin of this once great nation.

You are so right. Maybe he should also be told about the 38 members of one family, who have been extracting Centrelink benefits in one form or another for the past decade. Only recently detected. don't know the full outcome but I believe that some have been ordered to pay back over 100K, each. None have ever worked. No prize for guessing the nationality and religion.

I can tell you that over my many years in law enforcement and later as an insurance investigator that a certain nationality and religion had many problems in fitting into society and that their hatred of the infidel always showed through In so far as being victims of crime; their being subject to persons allegedly breaking into their homes and stealing their property, their cars being allegedly stolen, involved in accidents, which were later proven to be staged, or the theft of and the re-birthing of motor vehicles,

I have never seen such an unlucky group of immigrants. One main thing stood out as common to all is that when they were either arrested or investigated, they were found to be unmitigated and practiced liars, cheats and thieves.

Most of the families were on government handouts, allegedly unable to work, yet drove 100k plus motor vehicles and owned outright their substantial family homes. Any clear thinking person would understand the avenues that these persons used to gather their wealth and I can assure you none of them were legal. I am not sensationalising my comments and still retain countless computer files that contain evidence of their activities that would substantiate my claims.

Of course, for legal reasons I am never able to disclose names or any other personal details but I can tell you, unequivocally, that those I investigated as far back as the early 80's, if not killed in matters relating to their criminal activities, have gone on to to become some of the biggest kings pins in Australian criminal history. And they are currently active in their chosen field.

[Jimbolai]

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Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

As of last week 73 Australian residents have had their passports revoked for being identified as IS supporters. IS members murder, rape, torture & sell into slavery Muslims & non-Muslims; including women and children. Is it OK by you to facilitate this activity by allowing them to depart Australia & join IS?

It's fine by me if they go and get themselves martyred. Given a choice between them trotting around wreaking havoc in (a) the middle east or ( b ) suburban Australia, I'll take (a) every time. So long as we don't allow them back - made that mistake once before.

The problem is with many of the young ones that want to go and fight is that they were born in Australia and have full citizenship. Allowing any government to decide which Australian born citizen should loose his or her citizenship is not something I'd trust a government with.

Most governments in the free world revoke your citizenship when joining a foreign military. Australia is the same. Join IS and you are no longer a citizen of OZ. Passport revoked.

Edited November 29, 2014 by Jimbolai

[konying]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

Plenty of multi generation white trash that need sorting before licking your lips at the possibility of a pogrom on newly arrived non white , non Christians.

Majority of new arrivals want to get a job, a home and their kids settled and don't arrive solely intent on getting handouts... Despite what you and your kkk buddies would have us believe

Yep, Bankstown, Parramatta, Fairfield, Marrylands are great places to see all those wanting to get a job

[Jimbolai]

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A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

as well as all the criminals and undesirables that were shipped to Australia in the first place!

There were more soldiers on the boats than criminals.

Anyway blame the Yanks - if they didn't start, and win, the War of Independence the Poms could have kept shipping the crims over there!!

Heh Heh, the crims shipped to the American colonies had the guts to kick the poms out and declare independence. Will the crims in oz ever have enough guts to do the same? No, they are still the prisoners of mother England.

[heybuz]

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A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

as well as all the criminals and undesirables that were shipped to Australia in the first place!

There were more soldiers on the boats than criminals.

Anyway blame the Yanks - if they didn't start, and win, the War of Independence the Poms could have kept shipping the crims over there!!

Heh Heh, the crims shipped to the American colonies had the guts to kick the poms out and declare independence. Will the crims in oz ever have enough guts to do the same? No, they are still the prisoners of mother England.

And look at the mess their government is in,nobody can make a decision and too many fingers in the pie ,a little like thailand only with bigger stakes.

[monkey4u]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

Yeah, I don't understand why they want to STOP them leaving Oz to go play soldier with IS. I mean, stop them coming back by all means, but if they want to go make themselves a "martyr" it's a win-win innit?

I agree

Don't cancel their passports prior to leaving, let them get to where they want to go

Then cancel the passport so the retards can stay in the Middle East

Less dole money to have waste

[gigman]

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A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

as well as all the criminals and undesirables that were shipped to Australia in the first place!

There were more soldiers on the boats than criminals.

Anyway blame the Yanks - if they didn't start, and win, the War of Independence the Poms could have kept shipping the crims over there!!

Heh Heh, the crims shipped to the American colonies had the guts to kick the poms out and declare independence. Will the crims in oz ever have enough guts to do the same? No, they are still the prisoners of mother England.

And look at the mess their government is in,nobody can make a decision and too many fingers in the pie ,a little like thailand only with bigger stakes.

yeh...we have witch hunting...nobody use own brain any more or dare to ask questions... and media and this days technology will do the rest...

history repeats itself. ...

someone said in the past;

"first to divide them then easy to concur"

welcome to "dream world" logic gone ...

Edited November 30, 2014 by gigman

[Saan]

A day late and a dollar short... too late now, the barn's doors were left open and all the undesirables

have already came in and are now deeply entrenched in Australia soil, home grown terrorist,

sharia laws advocators and hate preachers, civil unrest mongers, they have got them all by now..

as well as all the criminals and undesirables that were shipped to Australia in the first place!

There were more soldiers on the boats than criminals.

Anyway blame the Yanks - if they didn't start, and win, the War of Independence the Poms could have kept shipping the crims over there!!

Australians are such great blokes because our ancestors were chosen to settle the country by some of the finest judges in the UK.

[raybal5]

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

"...refuse visas to NON-citizens..." Sheesh, either you're trying to stir the pot or can't understand English or you are just plain stupid!

[David48]

Overnight, on the last sitting night for the Senate, the same Minister was able to get his through.

The Senate has passed sweeping changes to asylum seeker laws, including the reintroduction of temporary protection visas (TPVs).

The bill was passed 34 votes to 32 in a late sitting of Parliament on Thursday night, and in the end the decision came down to one vote - that of the Motoring Enthusiast Party's Ricky Muir.

The Government secured the deal after agreeing to several requests from the Palmer United Party, including that children be released from detention on Christmas Island.

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison will also now increase the annual refugee intake by 7,500 places and give asylum seekers on bridging visas work rights.

Credit

Edited December 4, 2014 by David48

[simple1]

Overnight, on the last sitting night for the Senate, the same Minister was able to get his through.

The Senate has passed sweeping changes to asylum seeker laws, including the reintroduction of temporary protection visas (TPVs).

The bill was passed 34 votes to 32 in a late sitting of Parliament on Thursday night, and in the end the decision came down to one vote - that of the Motoring Enthusiast Party's Ricky Muir.

The Government secured the deal after agreeing to several requests from the Palmer United Party, including that children be released from detention on Christmas Island.

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison will also now increase the annual refugee intake by 7,500 places and give asylum seekers on bridging visas work rights.

Credit

Well at least the new legislation identifies that refugees / ayslum seekers who were positively vetted were not permitted to work, thereby forced to be on welfare. The decision does provide for the 30,000+ back log to be cleared to provide some hope that they can acheive some form of self help in the three / five period before the next assessment on viablility for them to be returned to their home countries.

However as one senator said "I am forced into a corner to decide between a bad decision and a worse decision, a position I do not wish on my worst enemies," he said.

For Morrison to use the fate of children as a bargaining ploy is the lowest of the low for Australian political ethics.

Edited December 4, 2014 by simple1

[David48]

Overnight, on the last sitting night for the Senate, the same Minister was able to get his through.

The Senate has passed sweeping changes to asylum seeker laws, including the reintroduction of temporary protection visas (TPVs).

The bill was passed 34 votes to 32 in a late sitting of Parliament on Thursday night, and in the end the decision came down to one vote - that of the Motoring Enthusiast Party's Ricky Muir.

The Government secured the deal after agreeing to several requests from the Palmer United Party, including that children be released from detention on Christmas Island.

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison will also now increase the annual refugee intake by 7,500 places and give asylum seekers on bridging visas work rights.

Credit

Well at least the new legislation identifies that refugees / ayslum seekers who were positively vetted were not permitted to work, thereby forced to be on welfare. The decision does provide for the 30,000+ back log to be cleared to provide some hope that they can acheive some form of self help in the three / five period before the next assessment on viablility for them to be returned to their home countries.

However as one senator said "I am forced into a corner to decide between a bad decision and a worse decision, a position I do not wish on my worst enemies," he said.

For Morrison to use the fate of children as a bargaining ploy is the lowest of the low for Australian political ethics.

However as one senator said "I am forced into a corner to decide between a bad decision and a worse decision, a position I do not wish on my worst enemies," he said.

Hi vote was vital.

I've heard the Audio ... he was stressed.

To be honest, I don't know if he's made the correct decision, or not.

It was good Politics ... but, I honestly don't know if it was good Legislation.

I'm glad that there will be an increase in intake of 7,00 odd (from memory) ... but also glad that there will not be a 'Family Reunion' clause ... means that the child is not sent ... then the broader family is then allowed. I just hope that 7,000 is diversified as intake across the Globe.

That action (Family Reunion) could have placed many children at risk and huge pressures.