Prosecutors claim case against Koh Tao Myanmar pair is solid: source

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Prosecutors claim case against Koh Tao Myanmar pair is solid: source
Suwannee Bandisak
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Public prosecutors expect the case against two Myanmar suspects accused of murdering two British tourists on Koh Tao to be treated seriously by a court in the South because they believe the evidence is solid, an informed source said yesterday.

The arraignment of the suspects looks set to take place this week.

Suspects Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, however, insist they were forced to confess to crimes they did not commit.

The two Britons were brutally killed on Koh Tao, a usually idyllic island in Surat Thani province, on September 15.

The suspects were illegal migrant workers on the island at the time the shocking crimes took place.

The source yesterday said a public prosecutor working on the case insisted there was incriminating evidence against the two Myanmar suspects.

"Procedures followed by investigators are also in line with laws. At first, they just charged the two Myanmar suspects with illegally entering Thailand. Murder charges have been pressed only after solid evidence emerged against them," the prosecutor was quoted as saying.

The source did not identify the public prosecutor by name. Both local and foreign institutes have conducted DNA tests on the investigation into the Koh Tao crime and their results point fingers at the accused, the source alleged.

While Thai police insist they solved the case with legitimate evidence, speculation has been rife on social media that the two Myanmar men are just scapegoats.

Tawatchai Seangchaew, who heads the Office of State Attorney Region 8, said yesterday that lingering doubt among social-media users may stem from the fact they have not seen all the evidence.

"When the case reaches the court, the two suspects will be brought to the courtroom. There, they can plead innocent or guilty. And the court will handle the rest," he said.

Tawatchai said parents of the victims would be notified about the progress in the case before the hearings start.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Prosecutors-claim-case-against-Koh-Tao-Myanmar-pai-30249057.html

-- The Nation 2014-12-03

[KhunMoo]

It's going to be exciting, how they use that DNA "evidence" - taking into consideration, that the crime scene, was totally destroyed on the first day. Everyone could see that, from the first photos, also exciting with the "the DNA is not Asian" comments by the police.


I really can't see, how these two boys can get a fair trail....

[thesetat2013]

It's going to be exciting, how they use that DNA "evidence" - taking into consideration, that the crime scene, was totally destroyed on the first day. Everyone could see that, from the first photos, also exciting with the "the DNA is not Asian" comments by the police.

I really can't see, how these two boys can get a fair trail....

It wont be as exciting as you think. They will never let reporters into court to see the farce.

[eeworldwide]

"Procedures followed by investigators are also in line with laws..."

Erm - yes - of course they are - we would expect no less from law enforcement anywhere in the world!

"At first, they just charged the two Myanmar suspects with illegally entering Thailand."

Ok- so you pick up the two suspects with something totally unrelated to the crime - but amazingly, - hey presto - these 2 illegal migrants were actually THE MURDERERS!! Wow - what a convenient coincidence!

"Murder charges have been pressed only after solid evidence emerged against them," the prosecutor was quoted as saying."

Reeeeealllly?!!!!

I for one can't wait to see this solid evidence.

[siampolee]

An interesting use of the word, ''believe.''

Believe

to accept something as true

1. I believe what I am programmed to believe.
2. I am unable to change what I believe just by willing it.
3. I do not decide what to believe.
4. I am always bound to believe whatever is most compelling.
5. I have no control over what I believe.
6. I believe that I have no control over what I believe.
7. I believe that the sun will rise tomorrow. I cannot NOT believe it no matter how hard I try. This belief is not under my control.

verb (used without object), believed, believing.

1.

to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right

in doing so:

Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.

[NongKhaiKid]

It was reported yesterday that another detention order was sought and granted, the sixth I believe.

If the case is so solid what's the delay in taking it to trial ? Shaky sounds more appropriate than solid it seems.

[jaidam]

The evil being perpetrated by the police and prosecutors is beyond belief. They are knowingly and willingly(for whatever reasons - be it cash, currying favors with superiors) attempting to murder the 2 Burmese scapegoats. After the scapegoats have been released and compensated, I expect all uniforms associated with this pathetic farce of a coverup to face severe charges of attempted murder for sending innocent persons to a potential death sentence.

I have kept a log of names of all officials that are complicit here in this case. Justice will be served, although it is not yet clear through what channel. My money would be on vigilantes detaining and "having a chat" with some of the bent officials to discover the truth, and then some sort of fitting punishment meted out. For the record, nobody is above vigilante justice due to birthrights.

[chainarong]

What sort of Sauce Tomato , Holbrooks Worcestershire or HP

[Neeranam]

They obviously have something up their sleeve. The RTP are not as stupid as many make them out to be.

[robblok]

Has the British investigation yielded anything. If not then this case might be solid indeed despite of what people are saying. The Brits send are high class real investigators and seen the evidence something that all the members are not and have not.

Just saying that i have more faith in the Brits as in people on a forum who have not see any real evidence and are not trained for it.

[maxme]

Reported by a source.. Why not by the prosecutors themselves?

[siampolee]

chainarong post # 8

What sort of Sauce Tomato , Holbrooks Worcestershire or HP

shiitake sauce

Mushrooms thrive in male bovine waste fecal matter you know.

[JeremyBowskill]

"Both local and foreign institutes have conducted DNA tests on the investigation into the Koh Tao crime and their results point fingers at the accused, the source alleged."

Well its nice of them to speak for the British, who as yet have failed to comment on anything including DNA.

The suspects may be guilty as hell or they may not......... Either way they are up sh!te creek without the rowing implement.

Edited December 3, 2014 by JeremyBowskill

[Somtamnication]

As solid as a wet sponge floating in a Bangkok sewer.

[NongKhaiKid]

If this case folds I'd like to think that's not where it ends but LoS isn't big on accountability and related issues and to make the situation more complicated it goes all the way to the very top so action, if any, will be minimal except MAYBE for a couple of scapegoats.

I'm sure the powers that be will want to file and forget as quickly and quietly as possible.

Edited December 3, 2014 by metisdead
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[recycled]

The evil being perpetrated by the police and prosecutors is beyond belief. They are knowingly and willingly(for whatever reasons - be it cash, currying favors with superiors) attempting to murder the 2 Burmese scapegoats. After the scapegoats have been released and compensated, I expect all uniforms associated with this pathetic farce of a coverup to face severe charges of attempted murder for sending innocent persons to a potential death sentence.

I have kept a log of names of all officials that are complicit here in this case. Justice will be served, although it is not yet clear through what channel. My money would be on vigilantes detaining and "having a chat" with some of the bent officials to discover the truth, and then some sort of fitting punishment meted out. For the record, nobody is above vigilante justice due to birthrights.

Now that is what I call positive commentary, not like some of the powder puff rhetoric by certain posters who have some vested interest in letting these cretins go free.

[Commerce]

What if they are found not guilty? Will they receive COMPENSATION for being held, and illegally strung about by RTP as being the committers of the crime, and spending so much time in detainment?

[recycled]

Has the British investigation yielded anything. If not then this case might be solid indeed despite of what people are saying. The Brits send are high class real investigators and seen the evidence something that all the members are not and have not.

Just saying that i have more faith in the Brits as in people on a forum who have not see any real evidence and are not trained for it.

Unfortunately I don't, this day and age with the likes of the NWO, Illuminati, bent Catholic Church and the new Mafia (all one of the same) having no boundries, I don't trust anybody any more. Not paranoid just and old wise retired Veteran whose seen a a lot, endured a lot and learnt how to survive in today's world.

[wilcopops]

Thanks to the way the authorities handled this case, it can never be "solid".

Either way any verdict has to be suspect... In many countries such an poorly organised prosecution wouldn't be allowed in court.

The world is increasingly aware that therebius no such thing as a Thai justice system and the rule if law isis a best tenuous.

[LuckyLew]

The evil being perpetrated by the police and prosecutors is beyond belief. They are knowingly and willingly(for whatever reasons - be it cash, currying favors with superiors) attempting to murder the 2 Burmese scapegoats. After the scapegoats have been released and compensated, I expect all uniforms associated with this pathetic farce of a coverup to face severe charges of attempted murder for sending innocent persons to a potential death sentence.

I have kept a log of names of all officials that are complicit here in this case. Justice will be served, although it is not yet clear through what channel. My money would be on vigilantes detaining and "having a chat" with some of the bent officials to discover the truth, and then some sort of fitting punishment meted out. For the record, nobody is above vigilante justice due to birthrights.

All looks nice sweet when you read what you have written, but they will never be released

Nothing will be fair about this trial and I suspect however good your intentions are it will all fall on death ears

[angiolo]

The British Police report is due in January. May be too late for the two lads.

[bkkgooner]

Yes the case is so solid that it had to be sent back what three of four times?

And who are these mystery witnesses?

To be honest I'm still having a hard time believing the two guys anyway

[peptidebomber]

I thought the case was perfect!

[thailandchilli]

I thought the case was perfect!

They've just had to make it watertight as well as perfect, a few million baht for some witness's has ensured their success.

The 700k previously on offer per witness was obviously not enough http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4373

[A1Str8]

It solidly stands on false claims.

[thailandchilli]

I think we can trust the 'source' in this article as much as we can trust the the RTP's version of events.

"Both local and foreign institutes have conducted DNA tests on the investigation into the Koh Tao crime and their results point fingers at the accused, the source alleged."

Really, its already been stated many times that all the tests were carried out in Thailand, none went to Singapore and certainly the B2 tests, which were back after 12 hours

[Emster23]

I have been wading through the Ferguson Grand Jury evidence etc, which is available on line (I'm up to page 448 of 5675 pages). Since this case is so "solid" how about RTP post their evidence too? Shouldn't compromise the case (as if anyone is concerned about that at this point) as perhaps defense attorneys given all of prosecutors evidence (well, I don't know about that.... this isn't like USA rules....perhaps). If we could look at the "facts" as portrayed by RTP then we armchair wise guys could really have fun looking for holes.

[DLock]

They obviously have something up their sleeve. The RTP are not as stupid as many make them out to be.

Actually...the vast majority are stupid. Proper stupid.

As long as the 2 boys have competent lawyers, this will be shown in court.

[tingtongtourist]

They obviously have something up their sleeve. The RTP are not as stupid as many make them out to be.

Actually...the vast majority are stupid. Proper stupid.

As long as the 2 boys have competent lawyers, this will be shown in court.

All that will be shown is the B2s guilt sadly i think. The tone of the article sets the verdict. Is written like there is no doubt of guilt and I dont think Thai judges will go against that no matter how the defence perform.

Remember, even have general PM congratulate police on job well done.

who would rock the boat? Nothing in it for them.

[animatic]

"...an informed source said yesterday... "

Says it right there.

Someone, who doesn't want to go on the record,

is trying to justify their detention even though the legal amount of detentions has timed out.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Edited December 3, 2014 by animatic